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Lamps

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  • Mar 16, 2025
  • #946
SBT said:
So who's doing Jamie Allen's job in this scenario?
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Who would you leave out? Torp or Rudoni?

It would take a bit of tinkering/change of tactics. But I trust Lampard to be able to get both in the side. It isn't as though either of them can only play in one limited area.
 
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Speedie's Head

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  • Mar 16, 2025
  • #947
A real cultured player. Will slot in in the PL next season
 
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tom88

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  • Mar 16, 2025
  • #948
What’s his resell value do we think as of today?
 
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SBT

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  • Mar 16, 2025
  • #949
Lamps said:
Who would you leave out? Torp or Rudoni?

It would take a bit of tinkering/change of tactics. But I trust Lampard to be able to get both in the side. It isn't as though either of them can only play in one limited area.
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I'd leave out Rudoni until Torp needs a rest or his form dips.
 
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Lamps

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  • Mar 16, 2025
  • #950
SBT said:
I'd leave out Rudoni until Torp needs a rest or his form dips.
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I'd keep Rudoni out until we know he is 100%. We're in no rush to bring him back. But we don't want him to lose his match fitness totally.
 
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napolimp

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  • Mar 16, 2025
  • #951
Don't know what's been said above, but just came on to say Torp's passing range is unreal. You can't drop this guy. Must be a forwards dream to play in front of Torp.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Mar 16, 2025
  • #952
napolimp said:
Don't know what's been said above, but just came on to say Torp's passing range is unreal. You can't drop this guy. Must be a forwards dream to play in front of Torp.
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Multiple threats in the side now with Grimes' passing from deep or Torp more advanced. More than one route to goal and more than one plan to get the ball up the pitch, makes so much of a difference.
 
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Old Warwickshire lad

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  • Mar 16, 2025
  • #953
SBT said:
I'd leave out Rudoni until Torp needs a rest or his form dips.
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Until Rudoni got injured he was arguably our best player, and a danger arriving late in the box.
Scored some really good headers, and one of the few capable of going past players.
 
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Hobo

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  • Mar 16, 2025
  • #954
Otis said:
He definitely seems to have come on leaps and bounds since Lampard's arrival.

His all-round game play is so much better.
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People talk about Lampard's arrival as a marked divide between night and day. There were signs of slow improvement under Robins. Lampard has kicked us on. How much of that has been players feeling they have to prove themselves to a new manager. Or Lampard being a tactical genius is open to debate.

A lot of what Lampard has been doing is the same as Robins selection and tactics wise. The biggest change for me is a quicker tempo playing out from the back. Also knowing when to go a bit longer.

A case of minor tweaks rather than major surgery.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Mar 16, 2025
  • #955
SBT said:
I think there's a fair bit of wishful thinking to believe that Torp can do everything he did yesterday AND do what Allen did (who was truly everywhere). I also don't think he's defensively as good as Allen. But the vibes are pretty good right now so just throw caution to the wind I guess!
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Lampard sees him as able to play a six and a ten, I think he’ll try him there.
 

JSL

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  • Mar 16, 2025
  • #956
shmmeee said:
Lampard sees him as able to play a six and a ten, I think he’ll try him there.
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Or an 8
 
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JSL

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  • Mar 16, 2025
  • #957
How gutted must Kasey Palmer be right now given where we are , where Hull are and who we have now as a manager
 

Hobo

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  • Mar 16, 2025
  • #958
JSL said:
How gutted must Kasey Palmer be right now given where we are , where Hull are and who we have now as a manager
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I take it you wanted Kasey to stay with us?
 
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TomRad85

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  • Mar 16, 2025
  • #959
shmmeee said:
Lampard sees him as able to play a six and a ten, I think he’ll try him there.
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I think its much like the EMC, Wright situation. To me it was always obvious he'd want to at least try and get them into the same team... same applies to Rudoni and Torp, its clear Lampard really rates both players and with good reason.
 
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Hobo

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  • Mar 16, 2025
  • #960
TomRad85 said:
I think its much like the EMC, Wright situation. To me it was always obvious he'd want to at least try and get them into the same team... same applies to Rudoni and Torp, its clear Lampard really rates both players and with good reason.
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But it is not like Robins didn't . Lampard has inherited them Fair play he is getting the best out of them. But I also think Lampard rates Eccles and Allen, unlike a lot of fans on here.

Having played at the top level Lampard will be thinking how to utilise the squad, not fixating on his favourite eleven players.
 
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TomRad85

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  • Mar 16, 2025
  • #961
Hobo said:
But it is not like Robins didn't . Lampard has inherited them Fair play he is getting the best out of them. But I also think Lampard rates Eccles and Allen, unlike a lot of fans on here.

Having played at the top level Lampard will be thinking how to utilise the squad, not fixating on his favourite eleven players.
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I don't get your point about Robins and the utilising the squad goes without saying but he'll also have an idea of what his best 11 is.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Mar 16, 2025
  • #962
JSL said:
How gutted must Kasey Palmer be right now given where we are , where Hull are and who we have now as a manager
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I doubt he's that bothered, all about the £ for him and he wouldn't get a game here
 
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ptr

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  • Mar 16, 2025
  • #963
JSL said:
How gutted must Kasey Palmer be right now given where we are , where Hull are and who we have now as a manager
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He gets absolutely nowhere near our team now.
 
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fatso

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  • Mar 16, 2025
  • #964
JSL said:
How gutted must Kasey Palmer be right now given where we are , where Hull are and who we have now as a manager
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I'm sure he's more than happy at Hull
He's on more money there, and even when fit. wouldn't get a game if he was still here.
 

Hobo

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  • Mar 16, 2025
  • #965
TomRad85 said:
I don't get your point about Robins and the utilising the squad goes without saying but he'll also have an idea of what his best 11 is.
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But the best 11 is more fluid than fans think
 

TomRad85

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  • Mar 16, 2025
  • #966
Hobo said:
But the best 11 is more fluid than fans think
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It's not really. The keeper is obvious, 3 of the back 4 are obvious, Grimes is obvious, Rudoni is obvious and being kind at least 2 of the front 3 are obvious. None of these get rotated too often when fit.
 
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LastChance

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  • Mar 16, 2025
  • #967
JSL said:
How gutted must Kasey Palmer be right now given where we are , where Hull are and who we have now as a manager
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Palmer wouldn't even get a place on the bench if he was still here now
 
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Captain Dart

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  • Mar 16, 2025
  • #968
LastChance said:
Palmer wouldn't even get a place on the bench if he was still here now
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I am grateful for his wanderlust.
 
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Matt smith

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  • Mar 16, 2025
  • #969
fernandopartridge said:
I doubt he's that bothered, all about the £ for him and he wouldn't get a game here
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Got the assist for hull yesterday in what was a good result for us
 

JSL

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  • Mar 16, 2025
  • #970
Hobo said:
I take it you wanted Kasey to stay with us?
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Nope. I prefer talent AND hard work, not prima donas
 
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dadgad

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  • Mar 16, 2025
  • #971
The major difference between then - with Robins - and now must be the complete understanding between coaching ethos and method. Lampard brought his team and got rid of the interim who had to implement Robins’ style which didn’t work. Clearly, singing from the same hymn sheet has given the squad confidence and belief. Lampard is articulate whereas Robins was dreary.
 

clint van damme

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  • Mar 16, 2025
  • #972
dadgad said:
The major difference between then - with Robins - and now must be the complete understanding between coaching ethos and method. Lampard brought his team and got rid of the interim who had to implement Robins’ style which didn’t work. Clearly, singing from the same hymn sheet has given the squad confidence and belief. Lampard is articulate whereas Robins was dreary.
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What?! We had 7 great years under Robins, it only went sour for a few months.
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Mar 16, 2025
  • #973
We should be starting the same team next game even if Rudoni is fit.

I don't get how you drop any of them after that performance.
 
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napolimp

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  • Mar 16, 2025
  • #974
JSL said:
How gutted must Kasey Palmer be right now given where we are , where Hull are and who we have now as a manager
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I'd be interested to see how Kasey Palmer would have done under Lampard, might have brought his game on as well. He clearly has an abundance of talent, just didn't turn it on very often.
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Mar 16, 2025
  • #975
napolimp said:
I'd be interested to see how Kasey Palmer would have done under Lampard, might have brought his game on as well. He clearly has an abundance of talent, just didn't turn it on very often.
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He'd have been number 1 boot cleaner and cone setter
 
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covcity4life

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  • Mar 16, 2025
  • #976
napolimp said:
I'd be interested to see how Kasey Palmer would have done under Lampard, might have brought his game on as well. He clearly has an abundance of talent, just didn't turn it on very often.
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I liked Palmer and stood up for him alot. Whilst I don't disagree lampard could have improved him I just don't see the work rate and discipline required to work in this midfield.

I'm glad he's gone tbh

And like I said I used to get accused of loving him
 
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Lamps

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  • Mar 16, 2025
  • #977
napolimp said:
I'd be interested to see how Kasey Palmer would have done under Lampard, might have brought his game on as well. He clearly has an abundance of talent, just didn't turn it on very often.
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Lampard will play the side he sees as best for our opponents. It's a squad game. If we need speed he will put our quickest players in. If we need height he will put our biggest players in. The players will understand this.
 
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napolimp

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  • Mar 16, 2025
  • #978
covcity4life said:
I liked Palmer and stood up for him alot. Whilst I don't disagree lampard could have improved him I just don't see the work rate and discipline required to work in this midfield.

I'm glad he's gone tbh

And like I said I used to get accused of loving him
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This is interesting, because under the new coaching set-up he wouldn't have been allowed to get away with coasting (if indeed he was), and so would have been interesting to see if he ended up out the door in January.
 
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napolimp

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  • Mar 16, 2025
  • #979
Lamps said:
Lampard will play the side he sees as best for our opponents. It's a squad game. If we need speed he will put our quickest players in. If we need height he will put our biggest players in. The players will understand this.
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Don't disagree, but have no idea what that has to do with my post. Were you supposed to reply to someone else?
 
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covcity4life

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  • Mar 16, 2025
  • #980
napolimp said:
This is interesting, because under the new coaching set-up he wouldn't have been allowed to get away with coasting (if indeed he was), and so would have been interesting to see if he ended up out the door in January.
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Yeh won't argue it's an interesting 'what if' question
 
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