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  • Start date Jun 7, 2024
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Nick

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  • Jan 22, 2025
  • #736
Jamesimus said:
Im willing to overlook the pass completion percentages if he is playing passes like that one to MVE last night.
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He did one out to MVE in the first half too if I remember, somebody pinged the ball into his feet with a player on him and he played it out wide.
 
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Jamesimus

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  • Jan 22, 2025
  • #737
Nick said:
He did one out to MVE in the first half too if I remember, somebody pinged the ball into his feet with a player on him and he played it out wide.
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Did really well to not get booked as well (at least I think he didn’t?). Seemed to foul Cantwell about 4 times and also various other little niggly fouls on other players to disrupt them. You often need that in away games and we haven’t done any of that stuff for so long.
 
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Nick

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  • Jan 22, 2025
  • #738
Jamesimus said:
Did really well to not get booked as well (at least I think he didn’t?). Seemed to foul Cantwell about 4 times and also various other little niggly fouls on other players to disrupt them. You often need that in away games and we haven’t done any of that stuff for so long.
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Yeah said it in the match thread that we rotated fouls well, although Torp did a lot of them.
 
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Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Jan 22, 2025
  • #739
Jamesimus said:
Im willing to overlook the pass completion percentages if he is playing passes like that one to MVE last night.
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It’s better than stat padding with tippy tappy passes that go 3-5 yards to the nearest player. If his shot creating actions and expected assists were low and passing % low, I’d be worried. In the event, he’s excellent at getting the ball in dangerous areas for assists.

Pass completion % can be misleading.
 
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Jamesimus

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  • Jan 22, 2025
  • #740
Mucca Mad Boys said:
It’s better than stat padding with tippy tappy passes that go 3-5 yards to the nearest player. If his shot creating actions and expected assists were low and passing % low, I’d be worried. In the event, he’s excellent at getting the ball in dangerous areas for assists.

Pass completion % can be misleading.
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Yeah that’s what I want, someone who is taking risks and not looking for the safe option every time.
 
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SBT

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  • Jan 22, 2025
  • #741
Think he’s another beneficiary of 3ATB personally. The less defensive responsibility he has in the middle of the pitch, the better he generally looks.
 
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Perennial Lurker

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  • Jan 22, 2025
  • #742
SBT said:
Think he’s another beneficiary of 3ATB personally. The less defensive responsibility he has in the middle of the pitch, the better he generally looks.
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Also think Lampard has identified that he has raw ability but has got him working on the more physical side of midfield play
 

Hobo

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  • Jan 22, 2025
  • #743
Mucca Mad Boys said:
It’s better than stat padding with tippy tappy passes that go 3-5 yards to the nearest player. If his shot creating actions and expected assists were low and passing % low, I’d be worried. In the event, he’s excellent at getting the ball in dangerous areas for assists.

Pass completion % can be misleading.
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Yes, stats can be misleading and need some context. Dasilva probably doesn't give the ball away much but he doesn't create much from forward positions either.
 

Evo1883

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  • Jan 24, 2025
  • #744
Allen hasn't played enough to feature on this
 
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AFCCOVENTRY

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  • Jan 24, 2025
  • #745
Torp and Rudoni are must haves on the team sheet now.
 
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SBT

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  • Jan 24, 2025
  • #746
Something just feels right about having Eccles as the pure neutral in the dead centre of that graph.
 
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JSL

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  • Jan 24, 2025
  • #747
Sheaf not far away.
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Jan 24, 2025
  • #748
Evo1883 said:
Allen hasn't played enough to feature on this
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Nice to see what I’ve been saying about Torp for a while come to fruition.
 
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Captain Dart

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  • Jan 24, 2025
  • #749
Tell Doug we need a player in the top left hand quarter to complete that top 6 deck.
 

Skyblueweeman

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  • Jan 24, 2025
  • #750
Evo1883 said:
Allen hasn't played enough to feature on this
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Interesting when the consensus has generally been that our midfield has been poor this season.
 

Mr Panda

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  • Jan 24, 2025
  • #751
Captain Dart said:
Tell Doug we need a player in the top left hand quarter to complete that top 6 deck.
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I imagine Sheaf would have gradually shifted over there a little given how he was playing in those early games for Lampard.
 
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Saddlebrains

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  • Jan 24, 2025
  • #752
SBT said:
Something just feels right about having Eccles as the pure neutral in the dead centre of that graph.
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Can see him going in the summer. Frank doesn't seem to fancy him
 
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Evo1883

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  • Jan 24, 2025
  • #753
Skyblueweeman said:
Interesting when the consensus has generally been that our midfield has been poor this season.
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I think ALL the stats point to our season being one of poor finishing and conceding silly goals .

The team are not anywhere near as bad as some would have you believe
 
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Bertola

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  • Jan 24, 2025
  • #754
Saddlebrains said:
Can see him going in the summer. Frank doesn't seem to fancy him
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Another victim of Doug's 4 year contract curse
 

Skyblueweeman

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  • Jan 24, 2025
  • #755
Evo1883 said:
I think ALL the stats point to our season being one of poor finishing and conceding silly goals .

The team are not anywhere near as bad as some would have you believe
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Yeah totally agree. Just funny when people call out the midfield so often.
 
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SBT

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  • Jan 24, 2025
  • #756
Saddlebrains said:
Can see him going in the summer. Frank doesn't seem to fancy him
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Would be an unbelievably short-sighted decision imo
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jan 24, 2025
  • #757
Saddlebrains said:
Can see him going in the summer. Frank doesn't seem to fancy him
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We were going to shift Kitching until he had a run of games. Eccles to be fair has been poor recently but that’s just temporary bad form I think.
 
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TomRad85

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  • Jan 24, 2025
  • #758
Evo1883 said:
Allen hasn't played enough to feature on this
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Torp and Rudoni are both excellent players.
 
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Calista

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  • Jan 24, 2025
  • #759
Skyblueweeman said:
Interesting when the consensus has generally been that our midfield has been poor this season.
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The consensus on here is often nonsense. Our problems this season have been in the two penalty areas.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Jan 24, 2025
  • #760
Calista said:
The consensus on here is often nonsense. Our problems this season have been in the two penalty areas.
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Exactly , we have missed the most big chances in the entire division
 
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SBT

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  • Jan 24, 2025
  • #761
Brighton Sky Blue said:
We were going to shift Kitching until he had a run of games. Eccles to be fair has been poor recently but that’s just temporary bad form I think.
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I don’t even think he’s been bad at all, but he’s currently the fifth choice CM so I can see him being moved on.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jan 24, 2025
  • #762
SBT said:
I don’t even think he’s been bad at all, but he’s currently the fifth choice CM so I can see him being moved on.
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He would have a lot of takers and I wouldn’t want him gone.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Jan 24, 2025
  • #763
SBT said:
I don’t even think he’s been bad at all, but he’s currently the fifth choice CM so I can see him being moved on.
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As the season has shown we need the depth so it feels unlikely to me that he'll move on.

For a player that Lampard doesn't fancy he's appeared in every game Lampard's managed in the league and started more games than he hasn't. He's been shifted out of the starting 11 since the switch to the 3-5-2, so it might well just be tactical.
 
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JSL

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  • Jan 24, 2025
  • #764
Saddlebrains said:
Can see him going in the summer. Frank doesn't seem to fancy him
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The fact he's been sub recently in a team lacking first choice midfielders does actually back that up
 

Evo1883

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  • Jan 24, 2025
  • #765
JSL said:
The fact he's been sub recently in a team lacking first choice midfielders does actually back that up
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It backs up he doesn't fancy him in a 3 CB formation at best
 
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SBT

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 24, 2025
  • #766
fernandopartridge said:
As the season has shown we need the depth so it feels unlikely to me that he'll move on.

For a player that Lampard doesn't fancy he's appeared in every game Lampard's managed in the league and started more games than he hasn't. He's been shifted out of the starting 11 since the switch to the 3-5-2, so it might well just be tactical.
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He’s started in five games and been subbed on in seven since Lampard came in.

I’m assuming that Lampard will want/get his own players in at CM in the summer, so assuming that Sheaf (who Lampard clearly rates) doesn’t get sold then I think Eccles is very much at risk.
 
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SkyBlueSam01

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  • Jan 24, 2025
  • #767
I'd like to see Eccles as the 6 with Rudoni and Torp as the two 8s pushing on in front of him

Although having said that Allen is the best player in the team atm as has been said on his thread
 
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Sky Blue Goblin

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  • Jan 24, 2025
  • #768
SkyBlueSam01 said:
I'd like to see Eccles as the 6 with Rudoni and Torp as the two 8s pushing on in front of him

Although having said that Allen is the best player in the team atm as has been said on his thread
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Can always do it as a test for the last twenty or ten if we are comfortable
 
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Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Jan 24, 2025
  • #769
SkyBlueSam01 said:
I'd like to see Eccles as the 6 with Rudoni and Torp as the two 8s pushing on in front of him

Although having said that Allen is the best player in the team atm as has been said on his thread
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Allen is the glue in that midfield 3 atm. He covers a lot of distance, picks up a lot of second balls and is tidy in possession.

He hasn’t been flash, it’s been solid all around in his game and compliments Rudoni and Torp nicely.
 
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SkyBlueSam01

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  • Jan 24, 2025
  • #770
Mucca Mad Boys said:
Allen is the glue in that midfield 3 atm. He covers a lot of distance, picks up a lot of second balls and is tidy in possession.

He hasn’t been flash, it’s been solid all around in his game and compliments Rudoni and Torp nicely.
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Thing is he has ALWAYS been really good at playing simple, non-flashy football at this level, but fans don't seem to value that as much as managers do
 
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