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SBT

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  • Mar 16, 2024
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Hardly the biggest takeaway from today’s result, but wondered if 99 minutes of The VAR Show has changed anyone’s minds on whether it’s a good thing for the game?

Is it making games more fair? Better to watch? Is it protecting refs from criticism?
 

TomRad85

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  • Mar 16, 2024
  • #2
It's shite

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Alan Dugdales Moustache

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  • Mar 16, 2024
  • #3
It's not making it better to watch at all. Surely though more often than not the correct decision is being made . Isn't it ?
That decision today took an age.
 
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play_in_skyblue_stripes

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  • Mar 16, 2024
  • #4
To repeat. Its shite multiplied by a large number.

Regardless of positive or negative outcome on your team.
 
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Otis

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  • Mar 16, 2024
  • #5
SBT said:
Hardly the biggest takeaway from today’s result, but wondered if 99 minutes of The VAR Show has changed anyone’s minds on whether it’s a good thing for the game?

Is it making games more fair? Better to watch? Is it protecting refs from criticism?
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I still like it. It's the way they administer it. How on earth they were supposed to unravel that today, God knows. Was never going to happen.

All it needed was a 20 seconds look and a decision made that there was nothing obvious and no obvious error, it should have just stayed with the onfield decision.

Nowt wrong with VAR. Something incredibly wrong in how they decipher the footage and implement the system.
 
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Sick Boy

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  • Mar 16, 2024
  • #6
I hated it before and hate it even more now, it’s just a farce.
 
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Sick Boy

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  • Mar 16, 2024
  • #7
Otis said:
I still like it. It's the way they administer it. How on earth they were supposed to unravel that today, God knows. Was never going to happen.

All it needed was a 20 seconds look and a decision made that there was nothing obvious and no obvious error, it should have just stayed with the onfield decision.

Nowt wrong with VAR. Something incredibly wrong in how they decipher the footage and implement the system.
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The CoH kick to the face being deemed ok was ridiculous.
 
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dadgad

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  • Mar 16, 2024
  • #8
We scored two in VAR time, love it!!
 
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Otis

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  • Mar 16, 2024
  • #9
Sick Boy said:
The CoH kick to the face being deemed ok was ridiculous.
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Definitely

On the supposed "handball" they were desperately looking for a handball they couldn't possibly see. That's what makes it ridiculous.

It's the people where the problem lies, not the system.
 
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larry_david

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  • Mar 16, 2024
  • #10
What they should all agree on, is if you can't tell within 3 replays, then on field decision should stand. The VAR looking st it for 5 mins is just ridiculous
 
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shmmeee

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  • Mar 16, 2024
  • #11
Had no issue before today’s game. Fuck waiting five minutes to celebrate a goal, get rid.
 
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SBT

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  • Mar 16, 2024
  • #12
Otis said:
It's the people where the problem lies, not the system.
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So the answer to dodgy refs is to give them more power to stop the game and change decisions?
 
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covcity4life

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  • Mar 16, 2024
  • #13
I didn't celebrate the equaliser cos I thought var gonna rule it out for offside. That's me being glass half empty but also the worry of var added in
 
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JoshCCFC1987

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  • Mar 16, 2024
  • #14
cal nearly got decapitated and they did nothing about it, all you need to know
 
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Nick

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  • Mar 16, 2024
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They still pick and choose what they look into.

It was pathetic how hard they looked to try and disallow the first but not interested in dangerous play.

Hopefully a retrospective ban.
 
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SBT

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  • Mar 16, 2024
  • #16
covcity4life said:
I didn't celebrate the equaliser cos I thought var gonna rule it out for offside. That's me being glass half empty but also the worry of var added in
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And this is why it’s total shit for me - you can’t even properly celebrate the very best thing about football, because some dweeb in a control room might decide to tell you it didn’t actually happen once he’s slowed it down enough times on his monitor.

You can’t even watch a fucking replay of a goal on TV anymore without them freezing it mid-highlight to satisfy the nerds who would otherwise hop online to claim there’s a conspiracy against their shitty little club.
 
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Jamesimus

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  • Mar 16, 2024
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I think it is just not executed properly.

If it’s not clear and obvious, 30 seconds to 1 minute should be enough - you can’t just carry on looking to find an error with something.

Then when a check clearly shows an obvious error with a very short replay e.g. OHare gets studs in the face from a recklessly high challenge, nothing given.

I know these are decisions related to us, but I can see they baffled other supporters online as well.
 
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Nick

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  • Mar 16, 2024
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It's just not consistent. Sometimes they will look in depth, some times they don't even bother looking.

How couldn't they see that O'Hare had been kicked in the face?
 
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SBT

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  • Mar 16, 2024
  • #19
Nick said:
It's just not consistent. Sometimes they will look in depth, some times they don't even bother looking.

How couldn't they see that O'Hare had been kicked in the face?
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The only way it will ever be consistent is if they stop the game after literally all goals and contentious tackles (uhhh no thanks), or just scrap it altogether.
 

Nick

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  • Mar 16, 2024
  • #20
SBT said:
The only way it will ever be consistent is if they stop the game after literally all goals and contentious tackles (uhhh no thanks), or just scrap it altogether.
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It's pointless if they can pick and choose which goals they want to spend 5 minutes trying to find a way to disallow and which they don't. Same with penalties etc
 

Jamesimus

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  • Mar 16, 2024
  • #21
Nick said:
It's just not consistent. Sometimes they will look in depth, some times they don't even bother looking.

How couldn't they see that O'Hare had been kicked in the face?
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They spent no time at all looking at that it seemed!
 

Nick

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  • Mar 16, 2024
  • #22
Jamesimus said:
They spent no time at all looking at that it seemed!
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Yeah exactly. I must have missed them even mention it was being checked.
 

Hobo

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  • Mar 16, 2024
  • #23
It's shit. Close thread.
 
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mmttww

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  • Mar 16, 2024
  • #24
Otis said:
I still like it. It's the way they administer it. How on earth they were supposed to unravel that today, God knows. Was never going to happen.

All it needed was a 20 seconds look and a decision made that there was nothing obvious and no obvious error, it should have just stayed with the onfield decision.

Nowt wrong with VAR. Something incredibly wrong in how they decipher the footage and implement the system.
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I'm drunk as f*ck so Mr T gets a comeback.
 

fatso

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  • Mar 16, 2024
  • #25
Var spoils the atmosphere imo, I'd rather the ref was trusted to make the right/wrong decision, can't stand these long delays before you can celebrate properly.


Also, singing "the referees a bastard"
And "your not fit to referee" are part of every fans vocabulary, blaming VAR doesn't even get a song!
 

Ricketts

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  • Mar 16, 2024
  • #26
I would stick with shit referees. Hate VAR.
 

Terry Gibson's perm

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  • Mar 16, 2024
  • #27
It’s not the fault of VAR it’s the fools that using it.
 
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Nick

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  • Mar 16, 2024
  • #28
Terry Gibson's perm said:
It’s not the fault of VAR it’s the fools that using it.
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They are var
 

shepardo01

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  • Mar 16, 2024
  • #29
TomRad85 said:
It's shite

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Horrible celebrating when you know there is a chance it could be ruled out!!
 
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Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Mar 16, 2024
  • #30
shmmeee said:
Had no issue before today’s game. Fuck waiting five minutes to celebrate a goal, get rid.
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My only experience of VAR was at UEFA sanctioned matches (England internationals) and those checks are much more efficient.

It’s clear to me that the FA has really made a hash of VAR implementation. 5 minutes waiting was a joke.
 
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stupot07

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  • Mar 16, 2024
  • #31
VAR is shite.

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Terry Gibson's perm

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  • Mar 16, 2024
  • #32
Nick said:
They are var
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Seems to work better in Europe so the problem is the officials using it.
 
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larry_david

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  • Mar 16, 2024
  • #33
SBT said:
And this is why it’s total shit for me - you can’t even properly celebrate the very best thing about football, because some dweeb in a control room might decide to tell you it didn’t actually happen once he’s slowed it down enough times on his monitor.

You can’t even watch a fucking replay of a goal on TV anymore without them freezing it mid-highlight to satisfy the nerds who would otherwise hop online to claim there’s a conspiracy against their shitty little club.
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I went fucking mental tbh
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Mar 16, 2024
  • #34
fatso said:
Var spoils the atmosphere imo, I'd rather the ref was trusted to make the right/wrong decision, can't stand these long delays before you can celebrate properly.


Also, singing "the referees a bastard"
And "your not fit to referee" are part of every fans vocabulary, blaming VAR doesn't even get a song!
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Definitely heard "Fuck VAR" and "You can stick VAR up your arse" being sung previously
 
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Tomh111

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  • Mar 16, 2024
  • #35
I have a problem with the principle of it, football is about debate, opinion and controversy.

I don't want 4 minute debates over marginal calls, let me argue with people about it.

Its to stop hand of god moments, Henry vs Ireland handballs and O'hare bing kicked in the face.

Not to slow down a scruffy back post goal where they're wrestling and trying to reach the ball.

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