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VAR Tonight (1 Viewer)

  • Thread starter Briles
  • Start date Aug 27, 2019
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Briles

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  • Aug 27, 2019
  • #1
This will be Covs first taste of VAR, I'm looking forward to it. We have already been on the end of some questionable decisions this season.

I don't quite get the argument that it is taking the passion out of the game, I'm yet to see fans not celebrate a goal when its initially scored.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Aug 27, 2019
  • #2
Is it confirmed that VAR is being used?

It should either be all or none in a competition, we didn't have it against Exeter.
 
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Briles

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  • Aug 27, 2019
  • #3
Nick said:
Is it confirmed that VAR is being used?

It should either be all or none in a competition, we didn't have it against Exeter.
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I believe it is only at Premier League grounds
 

kg82

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  • Aug 27, 2019
  • #4
Briles said:
This will be Covs first taste of VAR, I'm looking forward to it. We have already been on the end of some questionable decisions this season.

I don't quite get the argument that it is taking the passion out of the game, I'm yet to see fans not celebrate a goal when its initially scored.
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Of course they celebrate, it’s a reflex! But then having to wait to get it confirmed. It’s like “yay” when it does and then sit down. Considering they’re not giving goals that could apparently be scored by your armpit as well, it hasn’t endeared itself to me. Glad we don’t have it
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Aug 27, 2019
  • #5
Nick said:
Is it confirmed that VAR is being used?

It should either be all or none in a competition, we didn't have it against Exeter.
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I agree but it hasn’t worked like that so far
 

ccfcricoh

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  • Aug 27, 2019
  • #6
I didnt think it was being used tonight...we shall see i suppose
 

SkyBlueDom26

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  • Aug 27, 2019
  • #7
Imagine if it was used against Bolton, we'd be top
 
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Briles

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  • Aug 27, 2019
  • #8
kg82 said:
Of course they celebrate, it’s a reflex! But then having to wait to get it confirmed. It’s like “yay” when it does and then sit down. Considering they’re not giving goals that could apparently be scored by your armpit as well, it hasn’t endeared itself to me. Glad we don’t have it
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Technically get to celebrate twice
 
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kg82

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  • Aug 27, 2019
  • #9
Briles said:
Technically get to celebrate twice
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I think the excitement has rubbed off. That’s the point.

The thing we need at our level is goal line technology. I couldn’t care less about VAR, just adds more controversy from what I’ve seen so far.
 
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Wyken Sky Blue

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  • Aug 27, 2019
  • #10
I've been told it won;t be used tonight as the referee isn't assessed as competant to ref in the Premier League, therefore hasn't been trained how to use VAR
 

Nick

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  • Aug 27, 2019
  • #11
 

Nick

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  • Aug 27, 2019
  • #12
No var but there is goal line technology

 
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covcity4life

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  • Aug 27, 2019
  • #13
var exposes the poorer rules of the game

also i dont like seeing goals dissalowed for mm even if tehcnially they should be off.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Aug 27, 2019
  • #14
covcity4life said:
var exposes the poorer rules of the game

also i dont like seeing goals dissalowed for mm even if tehcnially they should be off.
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Where do you literally draw the line though? The rule is an arse. I think they should be far more daring and use ice hockey rules or a combination. We don’t want goal hangers but what is the point of offside

To expand you could only have it in the box or have just 1 player ahead of the player. What’s the rule for? To limit goals or chances?
 
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Briles

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  • Aug 27, 2019
  • #15
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Sky Blue Pete said:
Where do you literally draw the line though? The rule is an arse. I think they should be far more daring and use ice hockey rules or a combination. We don’t want goal hangers but what is the point of offside

To expand you could only have it in the box or have just 1 player ahead of the player. What’s the rule for? To limit goals or chances?
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Originally there had to be 3 players between attacker and the goal, then it moved to 2, and then 1.

If you removed offside the entire game as we know it would change. No longer would you need slick passing to draw defences out, any free kick would just result in a lump forward into the box and crowd the keeper. It would take away so much more of the tactical side of the game.
 
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covcity4life

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  • Aug 27, 2019
  • #16
Sky Blue Pete said:
Where do you literally draw the line though? The rule is an arse. I think they should be far more daring and use ice hockey rules or a combination. We don’t want goal hangers but what is the point of offside

To expand you could only have it in the box or have just 1 player ahead of the player. What’s the rule for? To limit goals or chances?
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i would like a daylight rule where non goal scoring limbs dont count, unless there is gap between striker and defence its all good for me
 

SkyBlueDom26

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  • Aug 27, 2019
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Aug 27, 2019
  • #18
Briles said:
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Originally there had to be 3 players between attacker and the goal, then it moved to 2, and then 1.

If you removed offside the entire game as we know it would change. No longer would you need slick passing to draw defences out, any free kick would just result in a lump forward into the box and crowd the keeper. It would take away so much more of the tactical side of the game.
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It's still two players - it's called 'last man' but in reality it's assumed the GK will be behind the attacker. If for some reason the keeper has gone walkabout (say a last minute corner) the attacker would have to be behind two defenders in their half to be onside.
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Aug 27, 2019
  • #19
Sky Blue Pete said:
Where do you literally draw the line though? The rule is an arse. I think they should be far more daring and use ice hockey rules or a combination. We don’t want goal hangers but what is the point of offside

To expand you could only have it in the box or have just 1 player ahead of the player. What’s the rule for? To limit goals or chances?
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If you chose just the level of the penalty area you're going to have huge gaps between the defence, midfield and attack. Which will either lead to a huge amount of space for midfield or players lumping it back and forth.

Also if you chose the penalty area itself, couldn't a player stand on the goaline just outside the box then run into the box once the ball was played and technically still be onside?

If you have one player the striker is just going to stand on the keepers toes all day.
 

Gosb

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  • Aug 27, 2019
  • #20
When they analyse the demise of the beautiful game, they will trace it back to the introduction of VAR.

Take away that ecstatic moment when your team score and you take away what is so special about football. Who cares whether every decision is correct? Arguing about it afterwards is also part of football's appeal. And it balances out over a season anyway. Scrap VAR now!
 

SkyBlueGuy

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  • Aug 27, 2019
  • #21
Gosb said:
When they analyse the demise of the beautiful game, they will trace it back to the introduction of VAR.

Take away that ecstatic moment when your team score and you take away what is so special about football. Who cares whether every decision is correct? Arguing about it afterwards is also part of football's appeal. And it balances out over a season anyway. Scrap VAR now!
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Even with VAR (as has been proven) there will be controversial decisions. So long as they can get the speed of the decision right, I don't see a problem with it. The tecnologoly works fine in other sports. It is only designed to eliminate decisions which are clearly incorrect. You will never get a system which is 100% accurate.
 

CanadianCCFC

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  • Aug 27, 2019
  • #22
SkyBlueGuy said:
Even with VAR (as has been proven) there will be controversial decisions. So long as they can get the speed of the decision right, I don't see a problem with it. The tecnologoly works fine in other sports. It is only designed to eliminate decisions which are clearly incorrect. You will never get a system which is 100% accurate.
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In baseball, they have challenges. The umpires get headsets on and wait for other umpires in a command centre to make the decision, but only when a team challenges a call. The teams each get 1 challenge per game, but if they use it and win the challenge they retain it. It does slow the game down, but in a game with a lot of downtime it’s not felt as much. The main issue in my opinion is that the coaches can ask the umpires to wait up to 30 seconds as they check video replay of their own. I think they should just make the decision of whether to challenge or not after seeing the play live. Overall it works pretty well.

Edit: Additionally, there can be three results of a challenge: the call is confirmed, overturned or it stands if there is not enough convincing evidence either way.
 
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