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USSR invades Ukraine. (5 Viewers)

  • Thread starter Alan Dugdales Moustache
  • Start date Feb 22, 2022
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duffer

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  • Feb 24, 2022
  • #281
Grendel said:
oh dear you seem embarrassed for voting for Red Jezza

Jeremy Corbyn backs criticism of Britain for 'provocative' role in Russia-Ukraine crisis

The former Labour leader also called on the Government to oppose any further expansion of Nato eastwards
www.telegraph.co.uk

Still his friends at Hamas seem most on his mind at the minute

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You seem to be mixing up Palestine and Hamas.

Easily done if you want to keep deflecting from how bent the person actually in charge of the UK Government is and how curiously slow he's been to act against his donors.

Waah... but Corbyn...

Incidentally, since you're obviously following him on Twitter, can you dig out the tweet where he condemns Russia's actions? Apologies if that doesn't suit your narrative.
 
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Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 24, 2022
  • #282
I don't know why we keep talking about Corbyn and what ifs. What's the point.

Doesn't matter if you are red or blue, left or right, this current government has pretty made a pigs ear out of everything.

Nice to know we have Russian donations into the Conservative party though and also Russians in the House of Lords.
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 24, 2022
  • #283
CCFCSteve said:
Sounds a lot more comprehensive and also joined up with US and EU.

Good speech to be fair. Hopefully the detail behind it is as comprehensive as it sounded
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I agree. At the moment it's words and quite vague but it's a good start. SWIFT has to be next.
 
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CCFCSteve

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 24, 2022
  • #284
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
I agree. At the moment it's words and quite vague but it's a good start. SWIFT has to be next.
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Yeah, sounds like swift will require all G7 to sign off.

I think Starmer and Johnson have both spoke quite well on this.

The Maybots up….always want Dancing Queen to come on when she’s speaking
 
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SBT

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 24, 2022
  • #285
Grendel said:
Lol at the point of Covid stocks in major markets went down to record levels not seen since 1987 - I lost £100 grand in a few days - it recovered this is literally not worth even checking

I guess the pension at McDonald’s wasn’t impacted to be fair so you’ll be ok

as for don’t care about parties they don’t now and wartime PMs tend to do rather well in the short term as the country unites by its war PM (not Churchill so don’t bother)
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Clueless. The market moves are significant even if they’re not at systemic risk levels. But to claim that Putin doesn’t care about the ruble is laughable. He’s spent the past seven years trying to guard against this scenario. He’s already summoned a gang of oligarchs to the Kremlin this afternoon - presumably you think it was just for their regularly scheduled book club.

Are you standing by your masterplan to just let Putin have his way with Ukraine, and then ban them from NATO as a consolation prize if he fails? Such a brave stance!
 
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duffer

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 24, 2022
  • #286
Otis said:
I don't know why we keep talking about Corbyn and what ifs. What's the point.

Doesn't matter if you are red or blue, left or right, this current government has pretty made a pigs ear out of everything.

Nice to know we have Russian donations into to the Conservative party though and also Russians in the House of Lords.
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The point of a certain poster banging on about Corbyn is to try to distract from the mess the Government's made, and the pit of corruption they find themselves in. It's designed to deflect from an uncomfortable truth regarding undue Russian influence on our ruling party.
 
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skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 24, 2022
  • #287
duffer said:
Not all down to Brexit, but only an idiot could argue that destabilising the EU hasn't been Putin's objective for a long time.

All those 'patriots' doing Russia's bidding, eh.

The Russia Report — who paid for Brexit? | TheArticle

£8.4 million — it was the biggest ever political donation in British history, and made by an insurance salesman made ...
www.thearticle.com

And all that Russian money flowing into the Tory party too. Awkward.
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Literally everyone who sold Brexit to the British public are awash with Russian money and Russian sympathisers. It’s an indisputable fact.
 
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skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 24, 2022
  • #288
Grendel said:
What are you on about?
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Your lord haw haw avatar.
 

Ian1779

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 24, 2022
  • #289
Otis said:
I don't know why we keep talking about Corbyn and what ifs. What's the point.

Doesn't matter if you are red or blue, left or right, this current government has pretty made a pigs ear out of everything.

Nice to know we have Russian donations into the Conservative party though and also Russians in the House of Lords.
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It’s to distract away from the fact that Johnson hasn’t got the balls to admit that him and his cronies have been happy to take the Russian rouble from Putin and his associates and don’t want to give it up.
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 24, 2022
  • #290
Had to chuckle there as Boris said we need to stop those abetting Putin.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 24, 2022
  • #291
CCFCSteve said:
Sounds a lot more comprehensive and also joined up with US and EU.

Good speech to be fair. Hopefully the detail behind it is as comprehensive as it sounded
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All of parliament seem supportive of Johnson and supporting his stance
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 24, 2022
  • #292
Grendel said:
All of parliament seem supportive of Johnson and supporting his stance
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I assume it goes against your stance of do nothing
 
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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 24, 2022
  • #293
SBT said:
Clueless. The market moves are significant even if they’re not at systemic risk levels. But to claim that Putin doesn’t care about the ruble is laughable. He’s spent the past seven years trying to guard against this scenario. He’s already summoned a gang of oligarchs to the Kremlin this afternoon - presumably you think it was just for their regularly scheduled book club.

Are you standing by your masterplan to just let Putin have his way with Ukraine, and then ban them from NATO as a consolation prize if he fails? Such a brave stance!
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I think you should stick to talking about Tavares I think it’s your level
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 24, 2022
  • #294
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I assume it goes against your stance of do nothing
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It will improve his standing in the nation so I’ll be ok with that
 
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Ccfcisparks

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 24, 2022
  • #295
Grendel said:
It will improve his standing in the nation so I’ll be ok with that
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He's already done irrecoverable damage
 
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duffer

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 24, 2022
  • #296
SBT said:
Clueless. The market moves are significant even if they’re not at systemic risk levels. But to claim that Putin doesn’t care about the ruble is laughable. He’s spent the past seven years trying to guard against this scenario. He’s already summoned a gang of oligarchs to the Kremlin this afternoon - presumably you think it was just for their regularly scheduled book club.

Are you standing by your masterplan to just let Putin have his way with Ukraine, and then ban them from NATO as a consolation prize if he fails? Such a brave stance!
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The other point is that even if Putin doesn't care a jot for the Russian economy, many of those around him will. Sooner or later, that's going to get uncomfortable.

He might be able to take Ukraine, but holding on to it without huge casualties and vast costs doesn't seem at all likely to me.

I can't see how this ends well for him or Russia in the long term, but regardless right now there are 44m Europeans in desperate need of our support.
 
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SBT

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  • Feb 24, 2022
  • #297
Grendel said:
I think you should stick to talking about Tavares I think it’s your level
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So that’s a yes, then?

Even Big Nige had the humility to admit he was wrong on a day like today, it’s not too late for you. Your track record on being wrong about foreign policy is almost as bad as his.
 
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David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 24, 2022
  • #298
duffer said:
You seem to be mixing up Palestine and Hamas.

Easily done if you want to keep deflecting from how bent the person actually in charge of the UK Government is and how curiously slow he's been to act against his donors.

Waah... but Corbyn...

Incidentally, since you're obviously following him on Twitter, can you dig out the tweet where he condemns Russia's actions? Apologies if that doesn't suit your narrative.
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Just do what all sensible posters are doing and put the pissed up troll on ignore
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 24, 2022
  • #299
Grendel said:
It will improve his standing in the nation so I’ll be ok with that
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So ‘let them crack on with it’ is still your idea?
 
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duffer

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 24, 2022
  • #300
David O'Day said:
Just do what all sensible posters are doing and put the pissed up troll on ignore
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Tempting, but I'd rather try to engage. Plus when starts on about Corbyn I kind of know that he's lost the argument.

Credit where credit is due, he is very good at deflecting and asking questions without ever answering them himself. If he was any more slippery I'd say he'd make a decent Tory minister.
 
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JAM See

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 24, 2022
  • #301
Grendel said:
It will improve his standing in the nation so I’ll be ok with that
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Johnson: £160k tennis match did take place

Foreign Secretary confirms game with ex-Russian minister's wife happened but warns against "miasma of suspicion".
www.bbc.co.uk

Will it improve his serve though?
 
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David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 24, 2022
  • #302
duffer said:
Tempting, but I'd rather try to engage. Plus when starts on about Corbyn I kind of know that he's lost the argument.

Credit where credit is due, he is very good at deflecting and asking questions without ever answering them himself. If he was any more slippery I'd say he'd make a decent Tory minister.
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No point, he's just being offensive for likes
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 24, 2022
  • #303
SBT said:
So that’s a yes, then?

Even Big Nige had the humility to admit he was wrong on a day like today, it’s not too late for you. Your track record on being wrong about foreign policy is almost as bad as his.
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Farage agrees with Corbyn on Russia doesn’t he?
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 24, 2022
  • #304
The excellent Dan Hodges telling another flag waving self proclaimed patriot who helped sell Brexit exactly what he is.


Funny how all these patriots are Putin apologists when it comes to the crunch. Still. Blue passports we could have had anyway.
 
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SBT

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 24, 2022
  • #305
Grendel said:
Farage agrees with Corbyn on Russia doesn’t he?
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No-one cares.

Do you still think the best course of action in Ukraine is to let Putin have his way with them? And then ban Ukraine from NATO as the only sanction?

Not a great night so far for Grendel Chamberlain.
 

JAM See

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 24, 2022
  • #306
Grendel said:
Farage agrees with Corbyn on Russia doesn’t he?
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Two past it borderline celebrities.

You might as well say that Jim Davidson and Stewart Lee agree on Hula Hoops.

What is your point?

This is a dangerous situation, and the people in power need to step up to the plate.

Pointing to Farage (rhymes with garage) and an ex Labour party leader is essentially dead cat stuff.

I thought you were brighter than that.

It appears I was wrong. Shame.
 
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Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 24, 2022
  • #307
JAM See said:
Two past it borderline celebrities.

You might as well say that Jim Davidson and Stewart Lee agree on Hula Hoops.

What is your point?

This is a dangerous situation, and the people in power need to step up to the plate.

Pointing to Farage (rhymes with garage) and an ex Labour party leader is essentially dead cat stuff.

I thought you were brighter than that.

It appears I was wrong. Shame.
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What Corbyn would have done is neither here nor there. What we have now though is a Tory party conflicted, through letting Russian money flow through this country and in large donations from Russian donors.
 
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fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 24, 2022
  • #308
Grendel said:
I never mentioned the Russian markets - Putin doesn’t care about his own markets he doesn’t care about the welfare of his own people who doesn’t care about anything but his moment in history
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Agree with that, trying to rationalise the actions of a despot will always miss the mark.

Granted this contradicts my point the other day but things have moved on
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Feb 24, 2022
  • #309
Good old Nige.

 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 24, 2022
  • #310
Solidarity to the braver than me people in Russia who are going out to protest (and get arrested)
 
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Kieranp96

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  • Feb 24, 2022
  • #311
Are they actually fighting Russia ? Or are Russia just walking around putting there flag on shit?
 
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tisza

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 24, 2022
  • #312
Otis said:
Also Russians in the House of Lords.
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To be fair we've had Germans,Greeks ,Dutch and others living in Buckingham palace
 
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skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 24, 2022
  • #313
Grendel said:
It will improve his standing in the nation so I’ll be ok with that
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The Russian nation.
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 24, 2022
  • #314
Kieranp96 said:
Are they actually fighting Russia ? Or are Russia just walking around putting there flag on shit?
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There's fighting apparently. Russians targeting infrastructure and tried to capture an airport according to a report I heard.
 

tisza

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 24, 2022
  • #315
Already divisions on sanctions. Germany in particular not keen on removing Russia from the SWIFT system ( basically because of how much trade there is between the 2 countries - seemingly mainly energy and automative).
 
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