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USSR invades Ukraine. (7 Viewers)

  • Thread starter Alan Dugdales Moustache
  • Start date Feb 22, 2022
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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 14, 2022
  • #3,256
shmmeee said:
Im asking what your line would be. Am I right in reading your position that as Ukraine isn’t NATO we shouldn’t get involved?
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Militarily absolutely not
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 14, 2022
  • #3,257
Some interesting accounts on Twitter from ex services people who went to join the fighting, deserting after realising they're fighting a modern army in the Russians and not an insurgency
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Mar 14, 2022
  • #3,258
fernandopartridge said:
Some interesting accounts on Twitter from ex services people who went to join the fighting, deserting after realising they're fighting a modern army in the Russians and not an insurgency
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Any links?
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 14, 2022
  • #3,259
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Mar 14, 2022
  • #3,260
What did they expect going in?

I mean fair play, I haven't got the bollocks to fly over and put my life on the line for it but when there's bombs taking places out you are mad to put yourself in front of it.

The Ukranians have massive bollocks.
 
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Alan Dugdales Moustache

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 14, 2022
  • #3,261
I reckon Putin will eventually get as far as the border with Poland and think " fuck it, we've got this far, we may as well see how far we can go"
Maybe not in those words
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 14, 2022
  • #3,262
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
I reckon Putin will eventually get as far as the border with Poland and think " fuck it, we've got this far, we may as well see how far we can go"
Maybe not in those words
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Unless he truly has lost his mind, he definitely won't invade Poland. His army would get utterly obliterated and even he knows that (as I say, unless he has literally gone insane).
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Mar 14, 2022
  • #3,263
shmmeee said:
Would you let Putin take any non NATO country without resistance?
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Yes
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 14, 2022
  • #3,264
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
I reckon Putin will eventually get as far as the border with Poland and think " fuck it, we've got this far, we may as well see how far we can go"
Maybe not in those words
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Yeah. At the very least he'd use Russian.
 
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RedSalmon

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 14, 2022
  • #3,265
Been on the Govt web site to offer a room to a refugee. The site just freezes after you have completed the first page and then 'times out'. Six attempts so far.

How the fuck can they not even sort out a functioning website for this!!!
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Mar 14, 2022
  • #3,266
RedSalmon said:
Been on the Govt web site to offer a room to a refugee. The site just freezes after you have completed the first page and then 'times out'. Six attempts so far.

How the fuck can they not even sort out a functioning website for this!!!
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A cynic might suggest that it's doing exactly what it's supposed to do...
 
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Marty

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  • Mar 14, 2022
  • #3,267
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
I reckon Putin will eventually get as far as the border with Poland and think " fuck it, we've got this far, we may as well see how far we can go"
Maybe not in those words
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Absolutely no chance would they go into Poland. They would get their arses handed too them, would give the west the opportunity to 'reunite' Ukraine and even expand the Ukrainian boarder into the Russian oil fields. Give control of the Volga to the Ukrainians. Pro Western government in charge of the oil, as well as cutting off Russian access to the Black and Caspian sea's.
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 14, 2022
  • #3,268
RedSalmon said:
Been on the Govt web site to offer a room to a refugee. The site just freezes after you have completed the first page and then 'times out'. Six attempts so far.

How the fuck can they not even sort out a functioning website for this!!!
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With a bit of luck my wife can offer a Ukrainian a place
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Mar 14, 2022
  • #3,269
Nick said:
What did they expect going in?

I mean fair play, I haven't got the bollocks to fly over and put my life on the line for it but when there's bombs taking places out you are mad to put yourself in front of it.

The Ukranians have massive bollocks.
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Yeah I don’t really understand what they were expecting?!
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 14, 2022
  • #3,270
Sick Boy said:
Yeah I don’t really understand what they were expecting?!
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I’d imagine they’ve only been in an army with huge superiority in a war that follows the rules of engagement.
 
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Grendel

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  • Mar 14, 2022
  • #3,271
shmmeee said:
I’d imagine they’ve only been in an army with huge superiority in a war that follows the rules of engagement.
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its not a game of top trumps
 
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shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 14, 2022
  • #3,272
Grendel said:
its not a game of top trumps
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What about that statement made you think I thought it was?
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 14, 2022
  • #3,273
shmmeee said:
What about that statement made you think I thought it was?
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because terms of engagement reminds me of anti Tory apologists crying war crimes when we sank the Belgrano

it’s not a set of rules
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 14, 2022
  • #3,274
Grendel said:
because terms of engagement reminds me of anti Tory apologists crying war crimes when we sank the Belgrano

it’s but a set of rules
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Every days a school day: https://www.acq.osd.mil/log/ps/.psc.html/ROE_handbook_ENG_May 2011_PRINT_RUN.pdf
 

RegTheDonk

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  • Mar 14, 2022
  • #3,275
RedSalmon said:
Been on the Govt web site to offer a room to a refugee. The site just freezes after you have completed the first page and then 'times out'. Six attempts so far.

How the fuck can they not even sort out a functioning website for this!!!
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Seen a few celebs saying they'll do this, probalby have a few spare rooms in their mansions or second homes, fair play to every day folk like you stepping up Red.
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • Mar 14, 2022
  • #3,276
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
I reckon Putin will eventually get as far as the border with Poland and think " fuck it, we've got this far, we may as well see how far we can go"
Maybe not in those words
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He won't. He knows full well he couldn't take on NATO, as do his generals, and more importantly there's no strategic reasoning for invading a NATO member.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 14, 2022
  • #3,277
shmmeee said:
Every days a school day: https://www.acq.osd.mil/log/ps/.psc.html/ROE_handbook_ENG_May 2011_PRINT_RUN.pdf
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well It is for people like you who Have no concept of reality and think people operate by establishment rules and concept of fair play.

Do you think if you showed Mr Putin this he’d think you have a point - actually learn Russian for “every day is a schools day” and tell Mr labarov next time you pass him in the street
 
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CCFCSteve

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 14, 2022
  • #3,278
fernandopartridge said:
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Hmmm, I obviously don’t know for sure but I’d be surprised if ex special forces didn’t know what they were getting into in terms of aircraft attacks etc. That hum dunkin (and a few other posters) are making out that ex army volunteers did a runner at first sign of trouble but reading some of the accounts it appears that they weren’t even being give equipment/weapons to defend themselves when the base was under attack. If that’s the case I’m not surprised they left.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 14, 2022
  • #3,279
CCFCSteve said:
Hmmm, I obviously don’t know for sure but I’d be surprised if ex special forces didn’t know what they were getting into in terms of aircraft attacks etc. That hum dunkin (and a few other posters) are making out that ex army volunteers did a runner at first sign of trouble but reading some of the accounts it appears that they weren’t even being give equipment/weapons to defend themselves when the base was under attack. If that’s the case I’m not surprised they left.
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anyway it’s fine @shmmeee has his school report abs will show nasty Vlad the Bad his not played fair and give him a detention and some lines

Literally the idiocy here is beyond belief
 
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Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 14, 2022
  • #3,280


This looks legit. Very brave if so.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Mar 14, 2022
  • #3,281
Grendel said:
anyway it’s fine @shmmeee has his school report abs will show nasty Vlad the Bad his not played fair and give him a detention and some lines

Literally the idiocy here is beyond belief
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Are you on the sherry again?
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 14, 2022
  • #3,282
Grendel said:
anyway it’s fine @shmmeee has his school report abs will show nasty Vlad the Bad his not played fair and give him a detention and some lines

Literally the idiocy here is beyond belief
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Seriously, take some time off here.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 14, 2022
  • #3,283
PVA said:
Seriously, take some time off here.
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no it’s ok I’ll carry on
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 14, 2022
  • #3,284
shmmeee said:
Are you on the sherry again?
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you actually presented a rules of engagement regarding war as if there are some kind of Queensbury Rules
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 14, 2022
  • #3,285
shmmeee said:
Are you on the sherry again?
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Also you do seem to be suggesting that you would support and be up for a bit of military fighting in Ukraine
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 14, 2022
  • #3,286
Grendel said:
Also you do seem to be suggesting that you would support and be up for a bit of military fighting in Ukraine
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I have had this conversation this end and come to the conclusion that I would join a protest and I would have done the thing with trying to push back the military vehicles etc and I would be up for bunging the odd Molotov cocktail or sniping. I couldn't do what that women did just then though and I couldn't go into hand to hand combat

I would like to think I could go into intelligence, but reckon they would just laugh at me.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 14, 2022
  • #3,287
Grendel said:
well It is for people like you who Have no concept of reality and think people operate by establishment rules and concept of fair play.

Do you think if you showed Mr Putin this he’d think you have a point - actually learn Russian for “every day is a schools day” and tell Mr labarov next time you pass him in the street
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Operating by establishment rules? What, society?

Nice to see you acknowledge that the Tories lie, seeing as establishment and fair play are two of the things they bang on about all the time (but obviously don't truly believe in)

So as people don't operate by establishment rules, I guess we won't hear a peep out of you next time there's a march or protest? After all, it's just the reality of the situation.
 

RegTheDonk

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 14, 2022
  • #3,288
Otis said:
I have had this conversation this end and come to the conclusion that I would join a protest and I would have done the thing with trying to push back the military vehicles etc and I would be up for bunging the odd Molotov cocktail or sniping. I couldn't do what that women did just then though and I couldn't go into hand to hand combat

I would like to think I could go into intelligence, but reckon they would just laugh at me.
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They will if you go looking like that
 
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RedSalmon

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 14, 2022
  • #3,289
RegTheDonk said:
Seen a few celebs saying they'll do this, probalby have a few spare rooms in their mansions or second homes, fair play to every day folk like you stepping up Red.
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Finally got through and registered on the Govt site, have also contacted Coventry refugee centre and will hopefully hear from them soon.
 
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Mcbean

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  • Mar 14, 2022
  • #3,290
Otis said:


This looks legit. Very brave if so.
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extremely brave - she has been detained surprise surprise - end of career moment until sputin gets his P45
 
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