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USSR invades Ukraine. (5 Viewers)

  • Thread starter Alan Dugdales Moustache
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Evo1883

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  • Mar 9, 2022
  • #2,941
The US have stated there are no biological weapons in Ukraine , according to sky news this evening.

Yet the Americans seem extremely concerned about Russia getting a hold of "biological research facilities" that last week America said didn't exist in Ukraine
 
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skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 9, 2022
  • #2,942
Sky Blue Pete said:
Where I’m at tonight is we all deserve to go to hell

What we allow in Yemen and Syria and Palestine and before in Bosnia and Rwanda is a stain on our shared humanity. There is no excuse - we have so much potential but are bunch of greedy twats without any morals
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The truth is that Saudi Arabia hasn’t really done anything in Yemen that Russia hasn’t done Ukraine. Saudi Arabia has committed war crimes such as double tap attacks, targeting civilians, targeting aid, enforced a famine etc etc etc. only real difference is that Saudi Arabia is armed by the West, the UK more than anyone else with the possible exception of the US.
 

Marty

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 9, 2022
  • #2,943
Evo1883 said:
The US have stated there are no biological weapons in Ukraine , according to sky news this evening.

Yet the Americans seem extremely concerned about Russia getting a hold of "biological research facilities" that last week America said didn't exist in Ukraine
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At this point, a conspiracy theory is just a spoiler.
 

skybluetony176

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  • Mar 9, 2022
  • #2,944
stupot07 said:
What a cnut


Says a Tory MP who was born on 24 January 1972 in Warsaw and who came to Britain with his mother, Halina Kawczynski, at the age of six. Literally no shame.

What is it with these Tory MPs who are immigrants or are children of immigrants that are so nasty and unwelcoming to any immigrants now? Hypocrites.


Sent from my SM-G965F using Tapatalk
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Evo1883

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  • Mar 9, 2022
  • #2,945
What I'm getting at , is the USA shouldn't be worried about Russia getting hold of harmless research .. if it is indeed harmless research
 
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covcity4life

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 9, 2022
  • #2,946
A children's hospital. So sad this
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Mar 9, 2022
  • #2,947
Putin really is a c**t.
 
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Grendel

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  • Mar 9, 2022
  • #2,948
Sky Blue Pete said:
And they are wrong about Yemen and Syria and Palestine too
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You have to consider wider consequences of military action
 
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Flying Fokker

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  • Mar 9, 2022
  • #2,949
Have you seen this?

Ukraine war: Russia confirms it has used thermobaric weapons, says UK's Ministry of Defence

Russia has confirmed it has used thermobaric weapons in Ukraine, according to the UK's Ministry of Defence. It said its Russian counterpart said the TOS-1A weapon system had been deployed. The UK MoD said the system uses thermobaric rockets, creating incendiary and blast effects.
uk.yahoo.com

Putin 'Setting The Scene' For Use Of Chemical Weapons In Ukraine, Say Western Officials

Officials "very concerned about the risk of escalation" as Russia “tightens the noose” around Kyiv.
uk.yahoo.com
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Mar 9, 2022
  • #2,950
Grendel said:
You have to consider wider consequences of military action
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Why? What’s the point? We got our knickers in a twist about losing to Luton last night whilst someone was planning on bombing a hospital and shot some kids trying to leave their home to go to a foreign country. Ffs
 
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Otis

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  • Mar 9, 2022
  • #2,951
Sky Blue Pete said:
Why? What’s the point? We got our knickers in a twist about losing to Luton last night whilst someone was planning on bombing a hospital and shot some kids trying to leave their home to go to a foreign country. Ffs
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He means you could start a nuclear war, or World War III. There would be so many more lives lost then
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Mar 9, 2022
  • #2,952
Otis said:
He means you could start a nuclear war, or World War III. There would be so many more lives lost then
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I know what he means. He doesn’t mind other peoples kids dying so long as all our kids don’t
 
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Otis

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  • Mar 9, 2022
  • #2,953
Sky Blue Pete said:
I know what he means. He doesn’t mind other peoples kids dying so long as all our kids don’t
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Personally, I have found the whole thing very upsetting.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Mar 9, 2022
  • #2,954
Otis said:
Personally, I have found the whole thing very upsetting.
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I know I’m sorry
 

tisza

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  • Mar 9, 2022
  • #2,955
Flying Fokker said:
Have you seen this?

Ukraine war: Russia confirms it has used thermobaric weapons, says UK's Ministry of Defence

Russia has confirmed it has used thermobaric weapons in Ukraine, according to the UK's Ministry of Defence. It said its Russian counterpart said the TOS-1A weapon system had been deployed. The UK MoD said the system uses thermobaric rockets, creating incendiary and blast effects.
uk.yahoo.com

Putin 'Setting The Scene' For Use Of Chemical Weapons In Ukraine, Say Western Officials

Officials "very concerned about the risk of escalation" as Russia “tightens the noose” around Kyiv.
uk.yahoo.com
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Chemical and gas weapons were used in Syria but Russia vetoed a UN investigation into the attacks.
 

Finham

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  • Mar 9, 2022
  • #2,956
PVA said:
This guy says something similar to what you've said there.

That bombing hospitals is trying to goad and provoke the West for his domestic audience


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Whilst I do agree with that, it's somewhat puzzling why Putin wants the West to react in a way that would lead to WWIII. Does he really actually want Mutually Assured Destruction?
 

Philosoraptor

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  • Mar 10, 2022
  • #2,957
tisza said:
Chemical and gas weapons were used in Syria but Russia vetoed a UN investigation into the attacks.
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Got to remember it was the Russians brokering a deal that got Syria to give up all of its chemical weapons in the first place.

You were looking at America flattening the Syrian regime to secure the weapons.
 

SIR ERNIE

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  • Mar 10, 2022
  • #2,958
Sky Blue Pete said:
We need to do something ! Putin is the worst sort of bully. Childrens hospital ffs
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We've done enough, there's little more we can do.
 

Otis

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  • Mar 10, 2022
  • #2,959
SIR ERNIE said:
We've done enough, there's little more we can do.
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And besides, it wasn't a hospital. It used to be a hospital, but now houses troops.

The blood was fake, the trapped children are actors and the pregnant women were made pregnant 9 months ago, especially just for this one photo opportunity.
 
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Alan Dugdales Moustache

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  • Mar 10, 2022
  • #2,960
I don't understand why Ben Wallace, or anyone for that matter, feels the need to announce that we are sending X amount of "high velocity stingers" and other anti tank/ aircraft military hardware.
Just send them. Don't tell Putin what we're doing. Deny everything. I understand the need to be seen to be supporting Ukraine but telling the enemy what we're doing is plain stupid. Almost apologetic. Get on with it. I don't need to know what and when. Neither do Russia.
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Mar 10, 2022
  • #2,961
SIR ERNIE said:
We've done enough, there's little more we can do.
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Have we?

 

tisza

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  • Mar 10, 2022
  • #2,962
Philosorapter said:
Got to remember it was the Russians brokering a deal that got Syria to give up all of its chemical weapons in the first place.

You were looking at America flattening the Syrian regime to secure the weapons.
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That was 2013/14? Attacks happened up until at least 2018 and the Russians vetoed several proposed UN investigations into who was responsible and where the "weapons" came from since then.
 

David O'Day

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  • Mar 10, 2022
  • #2,963
SIR ERNIE said:
We've done enough, there's little more we can do.
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Fuck off
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Mar 10, 2022
  • #2,964
skybluetony176 said:
Have we?

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Fuckin outrageous and what a prat. It’s a hard job being Home Secretary. How is that relevant!!
 
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PVA

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  • Mar 10, 2022
  • #2,965
That convoy is still buggered then.

Turns out number of LinkedIn connections isn't a suitable measure of veracity. Who knew.

 
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tisza

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  • Mar 10, 2022
  • #2,966
skybluetony176 said:
Have we?

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Can't help feeling they don't want to set themselves some kind of precedent for the next inevitable global confict/crisis that isn't based in Europe?
 
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Grendel

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  • Mar 10, 2022
  • #2,967
SIR ERNIE said:
We've done enough, there's little more we can do.
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This is the reality. We need a strong US leader to try abs and get negotiating but that’s never going to happen
 
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Grendel

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  • Mar 10, 2022
  • #2,968
Sky Blue Pete said:
I know what he means. He doesn’t mind other peoples kids dying so long as all our kids don’t
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This isn’t really the point.

Military action would escalate every as regions take sides. There would be conflict across most continents as anti west countries ally themselves to Russia.

it’s pretty obvious Putin will day by day increase escalation and he’s not going to back down.

The longer it goes on the lesser chance there is of a civilised outcome
 

skybluetony176

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  • Mar 10, 2022
  • #2,969
Grendel said:
This is the reality. We need a strong US leader to try abs and get negotiating but that’s never going to happen
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Negotiate what exactly? There’s no grey area. Putin needs to call off the invasion and retreat his army back to Russian sovereign ground. Putin then has the opportunity to negotiate the lifting of sanctions. I don’t even have a linked in account and I understand that.
 
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Grendel

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  • Mar 10, 2022
  • #2,970
Abromowitz sanctioned. That will show them.
 

Grendel

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  • Mar 10, 2022
  • #2,971
Assets frozen including Chelsea

 
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Evo1883

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  • Mar 10, 2022
  • #2,972
Grendel said:
Assets frozen including Chelsea

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Stupid really
 
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Flying Fokker

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  • Mar 10, 2022
  • #2,973
Grendel said:
Assets frozen including Chelsea

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So next season will be interesting for Chelsea. No season ticlet holders and an owner who cannot pay wages?
 

Ian1779

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  • Mar 10, 2022
  • #2,974
Grendel said:
Assets frozen including Chelsea

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This ‘sanction’ will have fuck all impact.
What’s the bloody point.
 
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Grendel

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  • Mar 10, 2022
  • #2,975
Evo1883 said:
Stupid really
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Playing the ethically sound Newcastle at the weekend
 
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