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USSR invades Ukraine. (11 Viewers)

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PVA

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  • Mar 6, 2022
  • #2,346
BBC still reporting that only one major city has fallen. @Grendel can you please email them and inform them that actually a large portion of major cities have fallen? Thanks
 
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stupot07

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  • Mar 6, 2022
  • #2,347
skybluetony176 said:
I mean

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What a load of bollocks. Heard when asked about everyone working together on this he called Starmer Captain Hindsight.

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PVA

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  • Mar 6, 2022
  • #2,348
Interesting thread on the state of the Russian army and their poor logistics


Again, it's not the all conquering modern super army many thought


(no LinkedIn profile for the author, but several books)

 
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RegTheDonk

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  • Mar 6, 2022
  • #2,349
Good insignt on BBC Sunday show from Admiral Tony Radadon on the military dilemma and no fly zone
 
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stupot07

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 6, 2022
  • #2,350
PVA said:
Interesting thread on the state of the Russian army and their poor logistics


Again, it's not the all conquering modern super army many thought


(no LinkedIn profile for the author, but several books)

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Yeah but how many LinkedIn connections does he have?

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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Mar 6, 2022
  • #2,351
1.5 million refugees have now left. I take it since we won’t lift a finger militarily to help that we and all other NATO countries will offer an open door to all who want to escape the Putin invasion as he cracks on with it?

Only temporarily of course, because he’ll give it all back after he conquers the country.
 
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Grendel

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  • Mar 6, 2022
  • #2,352
RegTheDonk said:
Good insignt on BBC Sunday show from Admiral Tony Radadon on the military dilemma and no fly zone
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the issue is though he did admit if Russia cannot access the capital then they will probably blast the place to dust and had no real solution to prevent it other than “it would be really outrageous”
 
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Grendel

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  • Mar 6, 2022
  • #2,353
Brighton Sky Blue said:
1.5 million refugees have now left. I take it since we won’t lift a finger militarily to help that we and all other NATO countries will offer an open door to all who want to escape the Putin invasion as he cracks on with it?

Only temporarily of course, because he’ll give it all back after he conquers the country.
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It’s ok the he’s only the verge of collapse though verge can it seem mean 10 years
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Mar 6, 2022
  • #2,354
This should worry even the most ardent and blinded Boris fan boy


The Kremlin signing off on who our lawmakers are. Wow.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Mar 6, 2022
  • #2,355
Grendel said:
the issue is though he did admit if Russia cannot access the capital then they will probably blast the place to dust and had no real solution to prevent it other than “it would be really outrageous”
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Same as your position then.
 
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PVA

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  • Mar 6, 2022
  • #2,356
stupot07 said:
Yeah but how many LinkedIn connections does he have?

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Can't find his LinkedIn profile but has written several books and is a Professor of Strategic Studies.

Not sure if that's qualified enough. @Grendel please advise?
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Mar 6, 2022
  • #2,357
PVA said:
Interesting thread on the state of the Russian army and their poor logistics


Again, it's not the all conquering modern super army many thought


(no LinkedIn profile for the author, but several books)

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You could imagine that there is a real issue with lower level military (maybe even higher level) not being back to push back on orders and saying ‘no, that’s no possible’…for fear of imprisonment or possibly death !

That culture of fear works in some situations but I’d imagine it’s having a real negative impact here, especially relating to logistics/strategy
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Mar 6, 2022
  • #2,358
Grendel said:
It’s ok the he’s only the verge of collapse though verge can it seem mean 10 years
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Think he’ll take a quick breather then seize Moldova and Georgia. The ban from Eurovision is an unacceptable act of escalation on our side
 
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Grendel

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  • Mar 6, 2022
  • #2,359
Seems a bit more than 16 to me

Redirect Notice

www.google.co.uk
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Mar 6, 2022
  • #2,360
Grendel said:
that’s odd I asked a question is this what is called wataboutery? Or is the Islington crew immune from such shocking practices
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HA! You answered my original question with your question. Are you enjoying your morning coffee in Muswell Hill?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Mar 6, 2022
  • #2,361
Sick Boy said:
HA! You answered my original question with your question. Are you enjoying your morning coffee in Muswell Hill?
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Smashed avocado on vegan toast with a grande mochachocafrappafuckaccino for him I think.
 
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stupot07

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  • Mar 6, 2022
  • #2,362
skybluetony176 said:
This should worry even the most ardent and blinded Boris fan boy


The Kremlin signing off on who our lawmakers are. Wow.
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The real reason why we are reluctant to sanction Russian Oligarchs

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Flying Fokker

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  • Mar 6, 2022
  • #2,363
stupot07 said:

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Great read. There Is hope that more people like him will gain an influence.

The people of Russia were told there would only be a war if they were attacked. No wonder they disbelieve(d) people phoning from Ukraine. Mother Russia wouldn’t do such a thing.

Is Russiangoing to end up with a demilitarised zone?
 
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PVA

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  • Mar 6, 2022
  • #2,364
Grendel said:
Seems a bit more than 16 to me

Redirect Notice

www.google.co.uk
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That's great. It's very nice of them to give us a billion names.

However if you actually check the official government UK sanctions list you will see that 15 Russians have been sanctioned since the start of the war.

You can check here.


The UK Sanctions List

Find out which people, entities and ships are designated or specified under regulations made under the Sanctions and Anti-Money Laundering Act 2018, and why.
www.gov.uk
 
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Grendel

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  • Mar 6, 2022
  • #2,365
PVA said:
That's great. It's very nice of them to give us a billion names.

However if you actually check the official government UK sanctions list you will see that 15 Russians have been sanctioned since the start of the war.

You can check here. You're welcome.


The UK Sanctions List

Find out which people, entities and ships are designated or specified under regulations made under the Sanctions and Anti-Money Laundering Act 2018, and why.
www.gov.uk
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so you acknowledge the U.K. we’re ahead of other countries before

wow it must really hurt that Johnson was ahead and leading the way
 
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duffer

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  • Mar 6, 2022
  • #2,366
stupot07 said:
The real reason why we are reluctant to sanction Russian Oligarchs

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It's remarkable isn't it. The party of law & order and flag-waving patriotism, literally funded by Putin's rich mates.

This, whilst there's an actual shooting war in Europe, started by Putin himself.
 
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PVA

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  • Mar 6, 2022
  • #2,367
Grendel said:
so you acknowledge the U.K. we’re ahead of other countries before

wow it must really hurt that Johnson was ahead and leading the way
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Hahaha windmilling again.

I note you ignored my previous posts about the Russian army by the way, was that guy too qualified for you?

What about the BBC reporting only two major cities have fallen, I thought you said a large portion had?
 

SIR ERNIE

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  • Mar 6, 2022
  • #2,368
Sky Blue Pete said:
Well

It’s in the mail for starters
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Whether it's the Mail or the Observer is irrelevant. PH is one of very few journalists who recognises the role the West have played in creating the conditions for this invasion.
 
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tisza

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  • Mar 6, 2022
  • #2,369
PVA said:
Interesting thread on the state of the Russian army and their poor logistics


Again, it's not the all conquering modern super army many thought


(no LinkedIn profile for the author, but several books)

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They've got another issue coming up with logistics.
As the ground thaws going to severely limit movement and Ukraine doesn't have an extensive (or well-maintained) road network. In a normal year we couldn't get on the ground to drill until mid-April because it was just too wet. So even tanks will have to stay next to the roads just to be refuelled.
We used to move combines and tractors all round the place rather than straight from A to B because bridges couldn't take heavy loads, not a lot of side roads where you can easily take shortcuts. Also a lot of the side roads etc are still gravel rather than tarmac.
So convoys etc going to be concentrated in small spaces but I suppose that will apply to Ukrainian forces trying to attack these convoys as well.
Plus looking at that twitter video of the lorries etc on a train I recognise several of those types and they are literally out of the Ark. Only reason a few of them are still around in private ownership in Hungary is that they are easily maintained because they are so basic. But got no speed, fuel efficiency or load capacity
 
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baldy

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  • Mar 6, 2022
  • #2,370
The Mirror claiming that Russia are planning to carry out public executions in Ukraine next apparently
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Mar 6, 2022
  • #2,371
stupot07 said:

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Agree with FF. really interesting read and re-enforces a lot of the speculation

Ps what an absolute shitshow from Putin. He could’ve left office whenever he decided, with a decent legacy in the eyes of the Russian people and he goes ‘all in’ on something like this….pretty much unplanned
 
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PVA

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  • Mar 6, 2022
  • #2,372
tisza said:
They've got another issue coming up with logistics.
As the ground thaws going to severely limit movement and Ukraine doesn't have an extensive (or well-maintained) road network. In a normal year we couldn't get on the ground to drill until mid-April because it was just too wet. So even tanks will have to stay next to the roads just to be refuelled.
We used to move combines and tractors all round the place rather than straight from A to B because bridges couldn't take heavy loads, not a lot of side roads where you can easily take shortcuts. Also a lot of the side roads etc are still gravel rather than tarmac.
So convoys etc going to be concentrated in small spaces but I suppose that will apply to Ukrainian forces trying to attack these convoys as well.
Plus looking at that twitter video of the lorries etc on a train I recognise several of those types and they are literally out of the Ark. Only reason a few of them are still around in private ownership in Hungary is that they are easily maintained because they are so basic. But got no speed, fuel efficiency or load capacity
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Yeah it's coming up to 'mud season'

That convoy is going very far any time soon, which I think explains why Ukraine haven't bombed it - they've got more pressing issues for their air force to deal with
 

Marty

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  • Mar 6, 2022
  • #2,373
Why does everyone keep adding random locations in London to their posts?
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Mar 6, 2022
  • #2,374
PVA said:
Interesting thread on the state of the Russian army and their poor logistics


Again, it's not the all conquering modern super army many thought


(no LinkedIn profile for the author, but several books)

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The video down the thread showing the convoy that had been blown up

 

clint van damme

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  • Mar 6, 2022
  • #2,375
Marty said:
Why does everyone keep adding random locations in London to their posts?
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Eh? On here or on Twitter?

Edit - the penny's just dropped!
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Mar 6, 2022
  • #2,376
baldy said:
The Mirror claiming that Russia are planning to carry out public executions in Ukraine next apparently
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Backward uncivilised country
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Mar 6, 2022
  • #2,377
Marty said:
Why does everyone keep adding random locations in London to their posts?
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Clearly Grendel’s thought police haven’t visited you yet.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Mar 6, 2022
  • #2,378
Sick Boy said:
Clearly Grendel’s thought police haven’t visited you yet.
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Most of us are from Islington
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Mar 6, 2022
  • #2,379
fernandopartridge said:
Putin wants a Czarist Russia not the USSR, he saw the Bolsheviks as traitors for breaking up Russia and giving the SSRs the right of secession. I find it difficult to believe he admires Stalin on that basis.
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I guess, given the size of the Russian empire and he definitely sees himself in Czarist terms, but I think his playbook is more Stalinist. So it's a sort of hybrid of the two.
 

chiefdave

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  • Mar 6, 2022
  • #2,380
eastwoodsdustman said:
You’re 100% right. People are moaning about Boris’s and Britains response but we have led the way in support for Ukraine to see off the Russain invasion and Russia well know this.
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I hope your right but given their track record I fear weeks or months down the line we'll hear different.

Already this morning I've seen reports of a women who has spent 4 days with her young daughter getting to Calais only to be refused entry to the UK and a charity reporting that the government won't remove the red tape and costs we've incurred post-Brexit so they have to raise an additional £6K to cover fees to enable them to get aid to Ukraine.
 
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