Maybe if you were to understand that there is plenty of options in between your two suggestions of 'Let Putin get on with it' and 'shut off Europe's gas supply' you might be able to join in the adult conversations.
I’m loving the adult conservations and debates. I do wish i was an adult and comprehend the high brow level of discussion being had on here
I wasn’t asked a question was I? It seems that no one wants any opinions on here or observations that go against the status quo - it’s fortunate though - as the idiots on this thread who want to play at Risk have zero voice in the planet of reality
Doesn’t playing contrary for the sake of it get boring after a while?
Thought you were making your last post on this thread last night?I don’t see how it’s contrary to suggest if you believe in sanctions why you don’t think huge sanctions are more impacted to Russia than very small ones but fair enough keep lobbying for your war
Maybe if you were to understand that there is plenty of options in between your two suggestions of 'Let Putin get on with it' and 'shut off Europe's gas supply' you might be able to join in the adult conversations.
Thought you were making your last post on this thread last night?
oh ok so do sanctions work then and if so why and what’s their purpose?
I don’t see how it’s contrary to suggest if you believe in sanctions why you don’t think huge sanctions are more impacted to Russia than very small ones but fair enough keep lobbying for your war
Yes of course sanctions work ffs.
You seem to be under the impression that the sanctions should have caused Russia and it's army to have folded like a pack of cards overnight. Utter naivety. That's not how it works.
Their economy is fucked. They basically cannot trade with anyone. Can't get supplies and materials into the country.
To suggest they are 'very small' just shows how utterly wrong you are.
I wasn’t asked a question was I?
Go on, share your wisdom. What’s your plan to reduce gas consumption to 0 in a week?
Don’t know if you’d noticed but a war is going on right now, we are supplying weapons to Ukraine and we have already committed ourselves to an economic war in any case. Russian forces are bombing cities to pieces and laying siege to others-the fear about us ‘escalating’ by daring to attack a 40 mile convoy seems to be a moot point by comparison to what they have done.
You have at various points suggested we should do nothing at all to saying if we were serious we’d turn off our own gas supply overnight. Which is it? Just the opposite of prevailing opinion at the time it seems
I answered that question
Well no I’m just seeing a load of schoolchildren on here linking silly social media posts and offering no actual opinions which are worth anything. You seem to want a military conflict which is just total insanity
Well no I’m just seeing a load of schoolchildren on here linking silly social media posts and offering no actual opinions which are worth anything. You seem to want a military conflict which is just total insanity
Yup. I do have the nagging feeling that the sanctions are in a gamble by Putin however, that they end up destabilising us as much, if not more so, than Russia... and let's face it, he won't need much excuse to go full-dictator in his home country, will he.I totally agree about military conflict, therefore sanctions and supplying the Ukranians with weapons isthe only alternative. To do nothing but let Putin crack on would be insanity.
I totally agree about military conflict, therefore sanctions and supplying the Ukranians with weapons isthe only alternative. To do nothing but let Putin crack on would be insanity.
See you in a few hours.No one offers opinions so this is a pointless thread of ignorant Islington labour types who want a jolly little war as long as they can sit at home on the sofa while was working class types go and die
Russia was a colossal mistake from the west - I’ve been many times and it’s very much in the big cities a western style culture and was there to be seen as an ally in the west
We have since the days of wolfitz and through to Rimney gone with the notion it’s always an enemy abd when it was down smash it rather then embrace it
Now we are seeing the realisation of our folly. The west needed to pick on someone so it picked on Russia - a proud resolute and loyal nation as it knew it dared not confront China
In the end the kicked battered animal fights back
We’ve created this monstrosity and we’ve relied on it
This thread is full of utter nonsense — most on here are ironically like Putin they snarl and kick back when other views are expressed and to put it mildly most are ignorant and clueless
Good luck with it keep posturing and keep chatting but perhaps Google Romney (I know most will have heard of him) and the other chap and understand the philosophy tbe west have deployed against Russia why Putin became and why we are where we are
I’m a humble child I know but hey take a look
Got your wish leave you all to it for a while
Well the idea that we should let the country fall, have Zelensky resign and hope that Putin gives it all back with bells on top seems the most insane idea I’ve seen.
No one offers opinions so this is a pointless thread of ignorant Islington labour types who want a jolly little war as long as they can sit at home on the sofa while was working class types go and die
Russia was a colossal mistake from the west - I’ve been many times and it’s very much in the big cities a western style culture and was there to be seen as an ally in the west
We have since the days of wolfitz and through to Rimney gone with the notion it’s always an enemy abd when it was down smash it rather then embrace it
Now we are seeing the realisation of our folly. The west needed to pick on someone so it picked on Russia - a proud resolute and loyal nation as it knew it dared not confront China
In the end the kicked battered animal fights back
We’ve created this monstrosity and we’ve relied on it
This thread is full of utter nonsense — most on here are ironically like Putin they snarl and kick back when other views are expressed and to put it mildly most are ignorant and clueless
Good luck with it keep posturing and keep chatting but perhaps Google Romney (I know most will have heard of him) and the other chap and understand the philosophy tbe west have deployed against Russia why Putin became and why we are where we are
I’m a humble child I know but hey take a look
Got your wish leave you all to it for a while
Not as insane as starting WW3.
And that's not the plan. Admittedly the plan is a weak one but it's still preferable to mutual destruction.
No one offers opinions so this is a pointless thread of ignorant Islington labour types who want a jolly little war as long as they can sit at home on the sofa while was working class types go and die
Russia was a colossal mistake from the west - I’ve been many times and it’s very much in the big cities a western style culture and was there to be seen as an ally in the west
We have since the days of wolfitz and through to Rimney gone with the notion it’s always an enemy abd when it was down smash it rather then embrace it
Now we are seeing the realisation of our folly. The west needed to pick on someone so it picked on Russia - a proud resolute and loyal nation as it knew it dared not confront China
In the end the kicked battered animal fights back
We’ve created this monstrosity and we’ve relied on it
This thread is full of utter nonsense — most on here are ironically like Putin they snarl and kick back when other views are expressed and to put it mildly most are ignorant and clueless
Good luck with it keep posturing and keep chatting but perhaps Google Romney (I know most will have heard of him) and the other chap and understand the philosophy tbe west have deployed against Russia why Putin became and why we are where we are
I’m a humble child I know but hey take a look
Got your wish leave you all to it for a while
No one offers opinions so this is a pointless thread of ignorant Islington labour types who want a jolly little war as long as they can sit at home on the sofa while was working class types go and dieI’ve been
Russia was a colossal mistake from the west -many times and it’s very much in the big cities a western style culture and was there to be seen as an ally in the westfull of utter nonsense
We have since the days of wolfitz and through to Rimney gone with the notion it’s always an enemy abd when it was down smash it rather then embrace it
Now we are seeing the realisation of our folly. The west needed to pick on someone so it picked on Russia - a proud resolute and loyal nation as it knew it dared not confront China
In the end the kicked battered animal fights back
We’ve created this monstrosity and we’ve relied on it
This thread is— most on here are ironically like Putin they snarl and kick back when other views are expressedand to put it mildlymost areignorant and clueless
Good luck with it keep posturing and keep chatting but perhaps Google Romney (I know most will have heard of him) and the other chap and understand the philosophy tbe west have deployed against Russia why Putin became and why we are where we are
I’m ahumblechildI know but hey take a look
Got your wish leave you all to it for a while
The plan to leave 40 million to their fate doesn’t particularly sit well with me. Which from the Ukrainian side is how it looks
What else is there now without causing absolute carnage?
I think this is going to rumble on for a long time. By which time the Ukranians will probably hate us.
Your answer was “why didn’t they do it before?” That’s not a strategy, wouldn’t even be heard in your favourite, the sixth form debating society.
Some rare self awareness by grendull.I’m loving the adult conservations and debates. I do wish i was an adult and comprehend the high brow level of discussion being had on here
Not allow a humanitarian crisis to unfold with no military intervention is what I want. The more land that is taken the messier it gets. There was the chance early on to stamp out this invasion from the skies.
Are we really willing to potentially go to Armageddon over Estonia simply because it signed the relevant paperwork?
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