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USSR invades Ukraine. (18 Viewers)

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SkyBlueDom26

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  • Mar 27, 2025
  • #10,116
Will be interesting to see if trump and Putin end up falling out or the relationship gets stronger after all of this. If they fall out I reckon it’s ww3
 
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PVA

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  • Mar 27, 2025
  • #10,117
Sick Boy said:
As has been said many, many times...it's America, what else were you expecting to happen?
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And as I've said many times, the US siding with one of their main adversaries, which they've spent the last 3 years helping to destroy their army, is a big deal.
 
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wingy

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  • Mar 27, 2025
  • #10,118
PVA said:
And as I've said many times, the US siding with one of their main adversaries, which they've spent the last 3 years helping to destroy their army, is a big deal.
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The dollar's weaker though I think, this is the final throws,all this outlandish stuff is I guess to be expected, don't know what will happen with any of it but.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Mar 27, 2025
  • #10,119
PVA said:
And as I've said many times, the US siding with one of their main adversaries, which they've spent the last 3 years helping to destroy their army, is a big deal.
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It's got zero relevance to them exploiting Ukraine, which was always inevitable.
 
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PVA

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  • Mar 27, 2025
  • #10,120
Sick Boy said:
It's got zero relevance to them exploiting Ukraine, which was always inevitable.
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With the narcissist conman in office yes.
 
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wingy

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  • Mar 27, 2025
  • #10,121
Sick Boy said:
It's got zero relevance to them exploiting Ukraine, which was always inevitable.
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Come on this isn't standard stuff at all,can anybody explain what Boris was up to which I questioned earlier?
 

chiefdave

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  • Mar 27, 2025
  • #10,122
Sick Boy said:
As has been said many, many times...it's America, what else were you expecting to happen?
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I think most people were expecting them to take the piss but even by American standards this is an insane proposal.
 
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chiefdave

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  • Mar 27, 2025
  • #10,123
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Will be interesting to see if trump and Putin end up falling out or the relationship gets stronger after all of this. If they fall out I reckon it’s ww3
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At the moment Putin's playing him like a fiddle. They're openly mocking him in Russian state media and celebrating how Putin is getting everything his way. The question will be what happens if and when the penny drops with Trump.
 
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wingy

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  • Mar 27, 2025
  • #10,124
chiefdave said:
At the moment Putin's playing him like a fiddle. They're openly mocking him in Russian state media and celebrating how Putin is getting everything his way. The question will be what happens if and when the penny drops with Trump.
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It won't matter.
 

Grendel

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  • Mar 28, 2025
  • #10,125
chiefdave said:
At the moment Putin's playing him like a fiddle. They're openly mocking him in Russian state media and celebrating how Putin is getting everything his way. The question will be what happens if and when the penny drops with Trump.
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Trump clearly wants an alliance with Putin - its nothing to do with being played
 
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SBT

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  • Mar 28, 2025
  • #10,126
Grendel said:
Trump clearly wants an alliance with Putin - its nothing to do with being played
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Trump’s desire for an alliance is precisely why he’s so vulnerable to being played.
 

Grendel

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  • Mar 28, 2025
  • #10,127
SBT said:
Trump’s desire for an alliance is precisely why he’s so vulnerable to being played.
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It really isn't - in the end Putin is zero threat to the US - its a tinpot regime.

Trump sees Europe as an irrelevance. He sees Russia and China as the only countries where there is both opportunity and also threat
 

fatso

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  • Mar 28, 2025
  • #10,128
SBT said:
Trump’s desire for an alliance is precisely why he’s so vulnerable to being played.
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The alternative to talking to Putin and working towards a deal is escalation and WW3. Which would you prefer?
 
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SBT

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  • Mar 28, 2025
  • #10,129
Grendel said:
It really isn't - in the end Putin is zero threat to the US - its a tinpot regime.

Trump sees Europe as an irrelevance. He sees Russia and China as the only countries where there is both opportunity and also threat
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He sees Russia as a threat even though Putin is zero threat? Do you want to have another go?
 

Grendel

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  • Mar 28, 2025
  • #10,130
SBT said:
He sees Russia as a threat even though Putin is zero threat? Do you want to have another go?
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Er no - what threat is Putin to the US?

Russia is the opportunity and China is the threat
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 28, 2025
  • #10,131
Putin clearly does not want WW3. If he did, he’d have started it by now.

If he went to war with the US his army would be vaporised before the US had barely put a boot on the ground.
 
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SBT

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  • Mar 28, 2025
  • #10,132
Grendel said:
Er no - what threat is Putin to the US?

Russia is the opportunity and China is the threat
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The Trump administration’s own intelligence agencies released a big report on it this week, why don’t you read it first and come back when you’ve got your story straight?

https://www.dni.gov/files/ODNI/documents/assessments/ATA-2025-Unclassified-Report.pdf
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 28, 2025
  • #10,133
Ah yes, 'elections'.


Vladimir Putin has been talking about the war in Ukraine overnight.

His latest suggestion is for the country to be put under a temporary administration to allow for elections.

This, he said, would then pave the way for peace.

"In principle, of course, a temporary administration could be introduced in Ukraine under the auspices of the UN, the United States, European countries and our partners," Putin was quoted as saying, during a visit to a new nuclear submarine.

"This would be in order to hold democratic elections and bring to power a capable government enjoying the trust of the people and then to start talks with them about a peace treaty."
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 28, 2025
  • #10,134
Grendel said:
Er no - what threat is Putin to the US?

Russia is the opportunity and China is the threat
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Careful, keep this up and you'll have LarryGrayson or one of his other alt accounts coming for a bit of the action.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Mar 31, 2025
  • #10,135
PVA said:
With the narcissist conman in office yes.
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With anybody in office. Trump is a symptom of America not the other way around
 
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PVA

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  • Mar 31, 2025
  • #10,136
fernandopartridge said:
With anybody in office. Trump is a symptom of America not the other way around
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The 'deal' would be nowhere near as bad for Ukraine if Harris was in office. Not even remotely close.
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Apr 6, 2025
  • #10,137
I saw a billboard yesterday that would have made @PVA crash his Tesla. I will try to share a picture of it next week…if it’s still there.
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 6, 2025
  • #10,138
Sick Boy said:
I saw a billboard yesterday that would have made @PVA crash his Tesla. I will try to share a picture of it next week…if it’s still there.
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Can't crash if I've got autopilot on

 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 8, 2025
  • #10,139
Not sure if right thread but confirms what we suspected at the time really.

Russians ‘searched internet for knife attack victim’ days before he was stabbed

German authorities suspected a string of terror attacks committed by foreigners may have been orchestrated by Russia
www.telegraph.co.uk
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Apr 9, 2025
  • #10,140
Interestingly, I was accused of spreading Russian propaganda for suggesting this - Ukraine’s military chief ‘must go’, says commander who quit to speak out
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 13, 2025
  • #10,141
Putin just wants peace!

Fuck Russia. When the time comes I hope Putin dies a horrible death.

 
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HungarySkyBlue

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 13, 2025
  • #10,142
PVA said:
Putin just wants peace!

Fuck Russia. When the time comes I hope Putin dies a horrible death.

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A Long and painful one, add all of his supporters to the list also, world much better of without him, then and Israel leaders also.
 

fatso

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 13, 2025
  • #10,143
SBT said:
The Trump administration’s own intelligence agencies released a big report on it this week, why don’t you read it first and come back when you’ve got your story straight?

https://www.dni.gov/files/ODNI/documents/assessments/ATA-2025-Unclassified-Report.pdf
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Ffs mate, how fucking naive are you???
Of fucking course they are going to big up Putin"s threat to the US and Europe, how the fuck else are they going to justify the exorbitant defence spending?? How are they going to milk the tax payers otherwise??? How do they keep the big money contracts rolling in without a big bad guy in the world???

If its not Putin it's China, or Nortn Korea and if its not them they'd have to invent one.
But there will always be one.

The American government is 36 trillion dollars in debt, that equates to 100,000 dollars for every man, woman and child in the country.
If they don't raise the debt ceiling even higher, then by August they won't be able to pay the public sector, and will default on their debt. That will lead to a global meltdown of epic proportions.
They need a bad guy in the world to maintain defence jobs and keep employment levels high.

Trump is trying to address that, and he's doing it by ramping up their economy, the tariffs will ultimately lead to renegotiated trade deals, Increased NATO spending will be on American made arms, and equipment.

Remaining tarifs on China will see global companies move their manufacturing facilities back to America to gain access to that market. All of which will mean jobs for American workers and tax dollars for the government.

Trump has been open and upfront about the plan from the day he announced he'd run for office. It's even called" M.A.G.A." for fuck sake.
How much more obvious can it be?

Reading so much bollocks on here from people who don't understand or hear what he's said is hilarious.
 
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fatso

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 13, 2025
  • #10,144
Here you go #shmmeee

There's even a graph in it, and we know how much you love a graph!

US could run short of money to pay its bills by August without a debt limit deal, CBO says

The United States is on track to hit its statutory debt ceiling — the so-called X-date when the country runs short of money to pay its bills— as early as August without a deal between lawmakers and the White House.
apnews.com
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Apr 13, 2025
  • #10,145
fatso said:
Ffs mate, how fucking naive are you???
Of fucking course they are going to big up Putin"s threat to the US and Europe, how the fuck else are they going to justify the exorbitant defence spending?? How are they going to milk the tax payers otherwise??? How do they keep the big money contracts rolling in without a big bad guy in the world???

If its not Putin it's China, or Nortn Korea and if its not them they'd have to invent one.
But there will always be one.

The American government is 36 trillion dollars in debt, that equates to 100,000 dollars for every man, woman and child in the country.
If they don't raise the debt ceiling even higher, then by August they won't be able to pay the public sector, and will default on their debt. That will lead to a global meltdown of epic proportions.
They need a bad guy in the world to maintain defence jobs and keep employment levels high.

Trump is trying to address that, and he's doing it by ramping up their economy, the tariffs will ultimately lead to renegotiated trade deals, Increased NATO spending will be on American made arms, and equipment.

Remaining tarifs on China will see global companies move their manufacturing facilities back to America to gain access to that market. All of which will mean jobs for American workers and tax dollars for the government.

Trump has been open and upfront about the plan from the day he announced he'd run for office. It's even called" M.A.G.A." for fuck sake.
How much more obvious can it be?

Reading so much bollocks on here from people who don't understand or hear what he's said is hilarious.
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In your view, does awarding trillions of dollars worth of tax cuts to the rich and big business do more harm or good to the US budget deficit?

Also-how was cancelling money for children’s cancer research part of making America great again?
 
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shmmeee

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  • Apr 13, 2025
  • #10,146
Brighton Sky Blue said:
In your view, does awarding trillions of dollars worth of tax cuts to the rich and big business do more harm or good to the US budget deficit?

Also-how was cancelling money for children’s cancer research part of making America great again?
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Nooo the worlds strongest ever economy will die if we don’t sack park rangers
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Apr 13, 2025
  • #10,147
shmmeee said:
Nooo the world strongest ever economy will die if we don’t sack park rangers
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Elon gets his $8 million a day while he tries to steal granny’s $1000 a month
 

eastwoodsdustman

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  • Apr 13, 2025
  • #10,148
Anyone banging on about the lack of elections on Ukraine only has to see Russia’s missile and cluster bomb attack on Sumy to see why they cant happen during the war.
 
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fatso

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  • Apr 13, 2025
  • #10,149
Brighton Sky Blue said:
In your view, does awarding trillions of dollars worth of tax cuts to the rich and big business do more harm or good to the US budget deficit?

Also-how was cancelling money for children’s cancer research part of making America great again?
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I've no idea, you'll need to ask Trump that one.

Maybe he's doing it to ensure businesses don't move abroad after the tarif situation?
Maybe he's repaying his campaign backers, who knows?

Politics is a very dirty business.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Apr 13, 2025
  • #10,150
fatso said:
I've no idea, you'll need to ask Trump that one.

Maybe he's doing it to ensure businesses don't move abroad after the tarif situation?
Maybe he's repaying his campaign backers, who knows?

Politics is a very dirty business.
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Well, it is when a total moron lets the world's richest man run riot at the Treasury.
 
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