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USSR invades Ukraine. (19 Viewers)

  • Thread starter Alan Dugdales Moustache
  • Start date Feb 22, 2022
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fernandopartridge

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  • Mar 21, 2025
  • #9,976
 
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Ian1779

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  • Mar 21, 2025
  • #9,977
Is the message ‘I fucked my wife’s best mate - then she fucked me with a strap on’?
 
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Captain Dart

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 21, 2025
  • #9,978
eastwoodsdustman said:
It probably was just a fire but the fact that counter terrorism officers are involved indicates that the government are considering it an option.
Everyone is probably aware of their actions against countries supporting Ukraine but here's a link of a recent report on their actions.

Russia’s Shadow War Against the West

Russia is conducting a violent and escalating campaign of sabotage and subversion against European and U.S. targets in Europe led by Russian military intelligence, according to a new CSIS database. The number of Russian attacks nearly tripled between 2023 and 2024.
www.csis.org
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It was a cock up.

 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Mar 21, 2025
  • #9,979
Captain Dart said:
It was a cock up.

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Captain Dart said:
It was a cock up.

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Captain Dart

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  • Mar 21, 2025
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chiefdave

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  • Mar 21, 2025
  • #9,981
Captain Dart said:
It was a cock up.

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PVA

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  • Mar 22, 2025
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Mar 22, 2025
  • #9,983
PVA said:
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Again, they’ve been actively supporting and funding Israel committing war crimes and this is supposed to be a shock?
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Mar 22, 2025
  • #9,984
He might not be
 
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PVA

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  • Mar 22, 2025
  • #9,985
Sick Boy said:
Again, they’ve been actively supporting and funding Israel committing war crimes and this is supposed to be a shock?
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Nothing the current US administration does is a shock.

Doesn't mean we should just nod along and doesn't mean we can't point it out.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Mar 22, 2025
  • #9,986
PVA said:
Nothing the current US administration does is a shock.

Doesn't mean we should just nod along and doesn't mean we can't point it out.
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The previous administration was also actively supporting and funding it.
 
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PVA

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  • Mar 22, 2025
  • #9,987
Sick Boy said:
The previous administration was also actively supporting and funding it.
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Yes but they weren't supporting Russia, which this thread is about.
 
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PVA

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  • Mar 22, 2025
  • #9,988
And of course it's more shocking for the US to come out in support of a long time adversary than it is to continue supporting a long term ally. Just silly to pretend otherwise.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Mar 22, 2025
  • #9,989
PVA said:
Yes but they weren't supporting Russia, which this thread is about.
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As has been said many times by many people on here, it's a country that has always and will always act in its best interests above all else, regardless of its allies.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Mar 22, 2025
  • #9,990
PVA said:
And of course it's more shocking for the US to come out in support of a long time adversary than it is to continue supporting a long term ally. Just silly to pretend otherwise.
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"Supporting a long term ally" - is also an interesting turn of phrase for funding war crimes.
 
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PVA

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  • Mar 22, 2025
  • #9,991
Sick Boy said:
As has been said many times by many people on here, it's a country that has always and will always act in its best interests above all else, regardless of its allies.
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Nobody has said otherwise.
 
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PVA

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  • Mar 22, 2025
  • #9,992
Sick Boy said:
"Supporting a long term ally" - is also an interesting turn of phrase for funding war crimes.
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Quit with the pathetic attempts at point scoring.

I'm not defending it. They've done it for years, doesn't mean it's right or I agree with it, it's not just surprising. Suddenly coming out to bat for a long term adversary is.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Mar 22, 2025
  • #9,993
PVA said:
Quit with the pathetic attempts at point scoring.

I'm not defending it. They've done it for years, doesn't mean it's right or I agree with it, it's not just surprising. Suddenly coming out to bat for a long term adversary is.
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There's no point scoring going on here. Just pointing out their hypocrisy and why it's not a surprise.
 
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PVA

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  • Mar 22, 2025
  • #9,994
Sick Boy said:
There's no point scoring going on here. Just pointing out their hypocrisy and why it's not a surprise.
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If you can't see the difference in them supporting Israel and Russia then I'm sure what else to say really. We'll leave it there then.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Mar 22, 2025
  • #9,995
Sick Boy said:
As has been said many times by many people on here, it's a country that has always and will always act in its best interests above all else, regardless of its allies.
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Why is continuing the war suddenly not in its best interests after having been so for 2.5 years?
 
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fatso

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  • Mar 22, 2025
  • #9,996
Sick Boy said:
The previous administration was also actively supporting and funding it.
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Argh yes, but no one wants to remember that or point it out, it doesn't fit with the "blame Trump for all the worlds woes" agenda.
 

Grendel

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  • Mar 22, 2025
  • #9,997
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Why is continuing the war suddenly not in its best interests after having been so for 2.5 years?
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A different view on China is the difference.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Mar 22, 2025
  • #9,998
Grendel said:
A different view on China is the difference.
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Explain how
 
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PVA

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  • Mar 22, 2025
  • #9,999
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Why is continuing the war suddenly not in its best interests after having been so for 2.5 years?
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It went from 'the US wants a forever war to fund their defence sector' to 'the US is withdrawing support to save billions of dollars' real quick.
 
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PVA

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  • Mar 22, 2025
  • #10,000
fatso said:
Argh yes, but no one wants to remember that or point it out, it doesn't fit with the "blame Trump for all the worlds woes" agenda.
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There is a 125 page thread full of people pointing it out.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Mar 22, 2025
  • #10,001
PVA said:
It went from 'the US wants a forever war to fund their defence sector' to 'the US is withdrawing support to save billions of dollars' real quick.
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Government policy often changes when a new party is elected into power, apart from in the case of Starmer.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Mar 22, 2025
  • #10,002
Sick Boy said:
Government policy often changes when a new party is elected into power, apart from in the case of Starmer.
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‘A country always acts in its best interests’

Why has ending the war suddenly become that after years of supporting Ukraine?
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Mar 22, 2025
  • #10,003
Brighton Sky Blue said:
‘A country always acts in its best interests’

Why has ending the war suddenly become that after years of supporting Ukraine?
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Because the new administration has clearly taken a more isolationist stance, which they see as being in their best interest.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Mar 22, 2025
  • #10,004
Sick Boy said:
Because the new administration has clearly taken a more isolationist stance, which they see as being in their best interest.
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The upcoming war with Iran and bombing of Yemen notwithstanding of course.
 

Sick Boy

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  • Mar 22, 2025
  • #10,005
Brighton Sky Blue said:
The upcoming war with Iran and bombing of Yemen notwithstanding of course.
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Of course, it kind of proves the point that they’re solely focused on their own self-interests.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Mar 22, 2025
  • #10,006
Sick Boy said:
Of course, it kind of proves the point that they’re solely focused on their own self-interests.
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How is engaging in fresh conflicts the sign of being more isolationist?
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Mar 22, 2025
  • #10,007
Brighton Sky Blue said:
How is engaging in fresh conflicts the sign of being more isolationist?
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...because they're protecting what they perceive to be their self-interests.
 
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PVA

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  • Mar 22, 2025
  • #10,008
Sick Boy said:
...because they're protecting what they perceive to be their self-interests.
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That's not isolationism. It's the very opposite.

They may well be acting in their own self interests, but it's certainly not isolationism.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Mar 22, 2025
  • #10,009
PVA said:
That's not isolationism. It's the very opposite.

They may well be acting in their own self interests, but it's certainly not isolationism.
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It's not at all.

The USA was largely isolationist in the early 20th century but still intervened in LATAM and the Pacific to protect its own interests.
 

fatso

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  • Mar 22, 2025
  • #10,010
Captain Dart said:
It was a cock up.

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Here is that engineer
 

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