Probably lining up a future job like Schroder did
Shultz has reopened dialogue with Putin
Shultz has reopened dialogue with Putin
Zelenskyy has now said that the war must end through diplomatic means next year.
So ... what we said all along ?
Crazy that so many people had to die and so many trillions and squazillions spent before this amazing realisation happened
And they'll still be some bellends on here saying Russia can be beaten, or that Putin won't stop at Ukraine and he'll roll his troops into Poland next and then the rest of Europe.So ... what we said all along ?
Crazy that so many people had to die and so many trillions and squazillions spent before this amazing realisation happened
So ... what we said all along ?
Crazy that so many people had to die and so many trillions and squazillions spent before this amazing realisation happened
This is like saying “it’ll be in the last place you look”. All wars end with a diplomatic solution. Even if that solution is “OK you’ve killed everyone on my side I give up”
That financial and military (human) cost is likely the difference between a diplomatic resolution that is acceptable to Ukraine and one that isn’t.So ... what we said all along ?
Crazy that so many people had to die and so many trillions and squazillions spent before this amazing realisation happened
I think its more like saying
We can never win this war , let's get round the table and talk
Suprise suprise, he's looking for a way out now the new American president is in bed with Putin
If you need to edit my post to somehow fit your own naive outdated and frankly rediculous agenda then I genuinely pity you.Correct.
This is like saying “it’ll be in the last place you look”. All wars end with a diplomatic solution. Even if that solution is “OK you’ve killed everyone on my side I give up”
BBC News - Ukraine war latest live: Russia launches 'massive' missile and drone attack on Ukraine energy
Ukraine war latest live: Russia launches 'massive' missile and drone attack on Ukraine energy - BBC News
This of course is the problem with having Biden sleeping in the White House for a few more weeks until Trump can actually stop this nonsense
Ah yes because handing over large parts of Ukraine to Russia, denying them entry to nato and pulling military aid is a great way to 'stop this nonsense'.
No more missile attacks or invasions ever again. No siree. Definitely not.
And the EU I should think.Denying entry to NATO is a must
I'd think the destruction of that would be a must, not just the entry of Ukraine?And the EU I should think.
How are those kind of conditions tenable if there’s popular support among Ukrainians for joining either the EU or NATO in the future? Aren’t we just then back where we were in 2014?
For the time being, sure. But if 10 years from now there’s another popular movement in support of EU membership that’s blocked by a military treaty agreed with Russia, it doesn’t bode well for political stability there.I know the EU can make entry rules up as they go along but allowing Ukraine entry would mean they have torn up all rules of entry
Frankly it’s all entirely tenable as Ukraine are not in a position to dictate anything
How are those kind of conditions tenable if there’s popular support among Ukrainians for joining either the EU or NATO in the future? Aren’t we just then back where we were in 2014?
The country has next to no leverage. Zelenskyy has also said the war must end next year via diplomatic means.Quite. Many people are very keen to negotiate on Ukraine's behalf without bothering to ask what Ukraine wants.
Zelenskyy has also said the war must end next year via diplomatic means.
Everyone wants a diplomatic outcome, but if the terms aren’t sustainable then it’s pointless.The country has next to no leverage. Zelenskyy has also said the war must end next year via diplomatic means.
Well, based on Trump's son saying that Ukraine would be 'losing its pocket money', I think we can assume that Trump is going to pull American support which is great news for Putin.The country has next to no leverage. Zelenskyy has also said the war must end next year via diplomatic means.
Yup. That hands Putin a win.Well, based on Trump's son saying that Ukraine would be 'losing its pocket money', I think we can assume that Trump is going to pull American support which is great news for Putin.
Would you have rather Starmer was spending £3 billion a year on Ukraine rather than here to ensure more lives were lost?Well, based on Trump's son saying that Ukraine would be 'losing its pocket money', I think we can assume that Trump is going to pull American support which is great news for Putin.
Well it's more expensive a price than would be ideal, but depending on how disinterested Trump is, he'll be able to take at least a big slice of Ukraine, perhaps more.Yup. That hands Putin a win.
At what price to the Russian people though? All those thousands of lives lost. Not that Putin cares though
Quite. Many people are very keen to negotiate on Ukraine's behalf without bothering to ask what Ukraine wants.
The funding is needed to bring Russia to the table for any kind of settlement. If you take it away without one, it's the green light for Putin to take whatever he wants.Would you have rather Starmer was spending £3 billion a year on Ukraine rather than here to ensure more lives were lost?
As I said...
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