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USSR invades Ukraine. (13 Viewers)

  • Thread starter Alan Dugdales Moustache
  • Start date Feb 22, 2022
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Feb 27, 2022
  • #876
Sky Blue Harry H said:
Generally trying to not get to wrapped up in this for my own mental health, but I met up with an African friend this morning who asked me about my thoughts, then quickly told me the 'African' perspective in that they were all on Russia's side (I was more than a bit taken aback) Basically, as his own country is being economically 'raped' by France and the US have historically dabbled / interfered in Africa, he is of the opinion that Putin is doing the right thing. i am a good friend of the bloke, so shifted the conversation to CBS pitch invaders, after having gently probed the logic of Putin's actions (without much joy). Thought it was a combination of alarming/interesting hearing a somewhat alien viewpoint.
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Your friend should watch what Kenya said at the UN about the invasion. Brilliant speech

 
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Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 27, 2022
  • #877
David O'Day said:
Big if true, he is/was very close to Putin
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Not close enough. Within 6 feet would have been nice.
 
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Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 27, 2022
  • #878
Sick Boy said:
It's amazing that this forum has experts on everything that has and could ever happen.
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Yes and you all know who you are.
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 27, 2022
  • #879
 
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Sky Blue Harry H

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  • Feb 27, 2022
  • #880
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Your friend should watch what Kenya said at the UN about the invasion. Brilliant speech

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Agreed - fantastic speech.
 
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xcraigx

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 27, 2022
  • #881
David O'Day said:
Big if true, he is/was very close to Putin
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There is so much disinformation from both sides, as you would expect in war, but this is a claim that the Russians can easily disprove if he is still alive. That they have not suggests the news to be accurate.
 

tisza

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 27, 2022
  • #882
skybluetony176 said:
Apparently this conflict is costing Russia $20billion a day. Just goes to show the importance of financial restrictions and sanctions. I know that Russia has claimed to have costed sanctions in but it’s also pretty clear they believe that they’d breeze in so have they costed in the $20billion a day in past the first couple of days.
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they had about 600bn in foreign currency reserves which are probably worth a lot less with the sanctions now in place. already more than doubled interest rates in past 12 months to try and control inflation.
Russia probably costed sanctions on the basis of having a quick win and installing a puppet govt. Then sanctions would be lifted fairly soon after. The fact that they had been boosting reserves over last 12 months another indicator of how long this has been planned despite all the talking.
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 27, 2022
  • #883
 
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tisza

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 27, 2022
  • #884
Germany the first to announce a massive hike in its military spending. Others will follow. Falling into Cold War 2 at the very least.
 

tisza

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 27, 2022
  • #885
Otis said:
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Shades of WW2 when they used to write messages on the bombs made for the RAF
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 27, 2022
  • #886
Rumours Russia seeking to talk
 

tisza

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  • Feb 27, 2022
  • #887
Sky Blue Pete said:
Rumours Russia seeking to talk
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Want to meet in Belarus but Ukrainians said they won't go there due to Belarus's involvement in the invasion . Apparently offered Budapest, Belgrade and some other cities as an alternative.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Feb 27, 2022
  • #888
Sky Blue Pete said:
Stunning humanity
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Especially given the shit way many have been treated by the worst of our media
 

David O'Day

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  • Feb 27, 2022
  • #889
Otis said:
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Putin khuylo!
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 27, 2022
  • #890
David O'Day said:
Putin khuylo!
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Is that the vodka you’ve managed to get from the happy shopper for a fiver?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Feb 27, 2022
  • #891
tisza said:
Want to meet in Belarus but Ukrainians said they won't go there due to Belarus's involvement in the invasion . Apparently offered Budapest, Belgrade and some other cities as an alternative.
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Ukraine should say yes if Russia agree to

Immediately withdraw everything
Pay reparations for all damage and loss of life
Renounce claims to Crimea and disputed eastern regions

In return Ukraine and NATO can agree that it will never become a member
 
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David O'Day

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  • Feb 27, 2022
  • #892

Putin khuylo! - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org
!
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 27, 2022
  • #893
Turkey are ramping up their rhetoric now
 
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SBT

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  • Feb 27, 2022
  • #894
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Ukraine should say yes if Russia agree to

Immediately withdraw everything
Pay reparations for all damage and loss of life
Renounce claims to Crimea and disputed eastern regions

In return Ukraine and NATO can agree that it will never become a member
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Why give Putin anything in return?
 
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clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 27, 2022
  • #895
 
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Kieranp96

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 27, 2022
  • #896
Nick said:
How the fuck are people now experts in Putin's friendship circle?
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Same COVID experts are now war experts.
 
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Kieranp96

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 27, 2022
  • #897
tisza said:
Want to meet in Belarus but Ukrainians said they won't go there due to Belarus's involvement in the invasion . Apparently offered Budapest, Belgrade and some other cities as an alternative.
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Stay away from Budapest ,
 

tisza

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 27, 2022
  • #898
Kieranp96 said:
Stay away from Budapest ,
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Russian tanks won't come here. Park them for more than 5 minutes the locals would have stripped them down for scrap metal
 
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tisza

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 27, 2022
  • #899
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Ukraine should say yes if Russia agree to

Immediately withdraw everything
Pay reparations for all damage and loss of life
Renounce claims to Crimea and disputed eastern regions

In return Ukraine and NATO can agree that it will never become a member
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Nice idea but Putin staked too much domestically on the Crimea & disputed territories.
He'd want Ukraine demilitarised and also not to join EU. Amnesty on war crimes.
And probably need to add a commitment to stop designs on the reformation of COMECON.

Of course if Putin no longer in charge everything probably less difficult to sort out.
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 27, 2022
  • #900
Sky Blue Pete said:
Rumours Russia seeking to talk
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Mmmm. Apparently there’s a leaked Russian document flying around that basically says that Russias demands are so ridiculous that they’ll never be agreed to and basically it’s a set up for Russia to say we tried but they wouldn’t negotiate.
 
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tisza

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 27, 2022
  • #901
skybluetony176 said:
Mmmm. Apparently there’s a leaked Russian document flying around that basically says that Russias demands are so ridiculous that they’ll never be agreed to and basically it’s a set up for Russia to say we tried but they wouldn’t negotiate.
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Just can't see it. ATM Putin (rightly or wrongly) thinks he's negotiating from a position of strength.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Feb 27, 2022
  • #902
Apparently Belarus are declaring war on Ukraine.
 
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speedie87

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 27, 2022
  • #903
xcraigx said:
There is so much disinformation from both sides, as you would expect in war, but this is a claim that the Russians can easily disprove if he is still alive. That they have not suggests the news to be accurate.
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The lack of proper info / disinformation is off the scale.
In thisyou’d half expect that proper information would be easier obtain.
Imagine what must have been like for the the generals in ww2 trying to keep on top of what was actually happening
 

TomRad85

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 27, 2022
  • #904
Nick said:
How the fuck are people now experts in Putin's friendship circle?
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I don't even bother with the news anymore pal. This place has experts for every occasion. It's usually the same 4/5 people too.

Sent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Feb 27, 2022
  • #905
Putin has put nuclear deterrent forces on alert
 
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Philosoraptor

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  • Feb 27, 2022
  • #906
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Putin has put nuclear deterrent forces on alert
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Feb 27, 2022
  • #907
Sounds like the whole of the EU are closing its airspace to Russia.
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 27, 2022
  • #908
Probably the best molotov cocktails in the world...

 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 27, 2022
  • #909
They are going to meet it seems
 

Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 27, 2022
  • #910
Sick Boy said:
Apparently Belarus are declaring war on Ukraine.
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Seems crazy , guessing it's not as a stand alone nation as Ukraine would slap them about , basically the Italy of ww2
 
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