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USSR invades Ukraine. (9 Viewers)

  • Thread starter Alan Dugdales Moustache
  • Start date Feb 22, 2022
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Alan Dugdales Moustache

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  • Feb 26, 2022
  • #806
Kieranp96 said:
anyone with common sense know the only people to blame is the politics
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The Ukrainians should lay down their arms then.
 

jordan210

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 26, 2022
  • #807
Stuff like this is scary as shit

 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 26, 2022
  • #808
I know the Russians will have more than some fanatics in their ranks but they’ll also be these.


Heard earlier that the Ukrainian government has set up a hotline to Russian parents and loved ones so they can find out if they’re son, husband, brother etc has been killed or captured allowing captured soldiers to talk to their families by phone also. A human touch and great tool for getting the truth to families in Russia and then the wider public seeing as Russian state TV has gone full comical Ali and claiming that there is no casualties on the Russian side and it’s all going to plan.
 

tisza

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 26, 2022
  • #809
jordan210 said:
Stuff like this is scary as shit

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Got to be some special kind of lunacy to kill your own people to make a point
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 26, 2022
  • #810
tisza said:
Got to be some special kind of lunacy to kill your own people to make a point
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Scarily the intelligence so far has been pretty much on the money so this is very believable as a possibility.
 
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jordan210

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 26, 2022
  • #811
tisza said:
Got to be some special kind of lunacy to kill your own people to make a point
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Id not write him off for doing something stupid.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Feb 26, 2022
  • #812
Fair play to Ukrainians, they have bollocks.

Just random people arming up.
 
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jordan210

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 26, 2022
  • #813
skybluetony176 said:
I know the Russians will have more than some fanatics in their ranks but they’ll also be these.


Heard earlier that the Ukrainian government has set up a hotline to Russian parents and loved ones so they can find out if they’re son, husband, brother etc has been killed or captured allowing captured soldiers to talk to their families by phone also. A human touch and great tool for getting the truth to families in Russia and then the wider public seeing as Russian state TV has gone full comical Ali and claiming that there is no casualties on the Russian side and it’s all going to plan.
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Whats scary but also sad, Is it appears quite a few young Russian service men generally thought they are on some sort of military exercises rather than being thrown in to a war
 
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stupot07

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  • Feb 26, 2022
  • #814
I've got to say what a leader Zelensky is. Visible, strong, brave, honourable and human. And we have Boris
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I've got a bit of a man crush on him.

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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Feb 26, 2022
  • #815
stupot07 said:
I've got to say what a leader Zelenskyy is. Visible, strong, brave, honourable and human. And we have Boris
.

I've got a bit of a man crush on him.

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If the roles were reversed Boris would be sending someone out into Kiev post-curfew with a few briefcases
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 26, 2022
  • #816
Nick said:
Fair play to Ukrainians, they have bollocks.

Just random people arming up.
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Saw footage of them earlier answering the call to make Molotov cocktails. Mostly females grating polystyrene to stuff into bottles before filling with petrol. They were Russian speaking too so Putin really has failed to understand the mentality of the Ukrainians.
 

stupot07

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  • Feb 26, 2022
  • #817
Putin has sent in the Chechens, they are hard as nails.

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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Feb 26, 2022
  • #818
skybluetony176 said:
Saw footage of them earlier answering the call to make Molotov cocktails. Mostly females grating polystyrene to stuff into bottles before filling with petrol. They were Russian speaking too so Putin really has failed to understand the mentality of the Ukrainians.
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He needed a quick knockout, he hasn't got it. Will have to throw more in who increasingly don't want to be there
 

skybluetony176

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  • Feb 26, 2022
  • #819
Brighton Sky Blue said:
If the roles were reversed Boris would be sending someone out into Kiev post-curfew with a few briefcases
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Wouldn’t happen here. Putin doesn’t need to install a puppet Russian government here like he’s trying in Ukraine. He already succeeded in doing that in 2019
 

Otis

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  • Feb 26, 2022
  • #820
Abramovitch has handed the stewardship of Chelsea over to some Chelsea club trust.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 26, 2022
  • #821
Think it's just to legally separate himself from being the owner so it doesn't get involved in any personal sanctions of his
 
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jordan210

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  • Feb 26, 2022
  • #822
stupot07 said:
Putin has sent in the Chechens, they are hard as nails.

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The original ones are. But dint Russia commit war crimes against them. so is this the same group ?
 

chiefdave

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  • Feb 26, 2022
  • #823
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Think it's just to legally separate himself from being the owner so it doesn't get involved in any personal sanctions of his
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Chap from the BBC is saying he's moved the day to day running but in reality still has ownership. He's betting on the government not wanting the PR of seizing a football club if they take his assets in the hope that when this is all over he can quietly move back in. Time will tell if people will go for that but given the way Chelsea fans have been defending his association with Putin the last few days I suspect there won't be many complaints from them.
 

baldy

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 26, 2022
  • #824
Reddit world news are saying now that the process has started to disconnect Russia from SWIFT now that Germany,the final country that were undecided,has voted in favour of it
 

tisza

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 26, 2022
  • #825
jordan210 said:
The original ones are. But dint Russia commit war crimes against them. so is this the same group ?
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Kind of. Putin installed a puppet govt after a vicious campaign and keeps it propped up.
 

tisza

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 26, 2022
  • #826
baldy said:
Reddit world news are saying now that the process has started to disconnect Russia from SWIFT now that Germany,the final country that were undecided,has voted in favour of it
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Germany sending a load of missiles now as well. Playing catch-up
 

tisza

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 26, 2022
  • #827
Convoys of private vehicles picking up refugees at our border as Govt not got anything organized.
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 26, 2022
  • #828
Not sure how true this is
 

tisza

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  • Feb 26, 2022
  • #829
Otis said:
Abramovitch has handed the stewardship of Chelsea over to some Chelsea club trust.
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Why is Usmanov not attracting attention? He is part of Putin's inner circle.
 

jordan210

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 26, 2022
  • #830
tisza said:
Kind of. Putin installed a puppet govt after a vicious campaign and keeps it propped up.
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Big news if true

 

jordan210

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 26, 2022
  • #831
Otis said:
Not sure how true this is
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Looks true if you search his name on twitter. As photos of his ID
 
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chiefdave

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  • Feb 26, 2022
  • #832
Its difficult to know what's true and what isn't. As much as we go on about the laughable 'zero casualties' Russian propaganda it would be naive to think there's not propaganda on the Ukraine side, even if not through official sources then from people thinking they are helping by sharing things on social media - there was footage widely shared yesterday of Russian jets being brought down which turned out to be from a computer game - but if what we are hearing is anywhere near true then things are going a lot better than expected from a Ukrainian point of view.

Of course the problem is Putin doesn't exactly strike you as the type to admit a mistake and give up. Probably the best case scenario is it brings Russia back to the table for some behind the scenes negotiations which result in some concession Putin can declare a win back home. But would that be enough for Putin?
 

Flying Fokker

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 26, 2022
  • #833
Hope the weather thwarts the Aggressors efforts.
 

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tisza

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  • Feb 26, 2022
  • #834
chiefdave said:
Of course the problem is Putin doesn't exactly strike you as the type to admit a mistake and give up. Probably the best case scenario is it brings Russia back to the table for some behind the scenes negotiations which result in some concession Putin can declare a win back home. But would that be enough for Putin?
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Hard to see where the compromise lies.
Putin won't leave current Govt in power. Promise of new elections won't solve much as pro-moscow candidates will get slaughtered. NATO and EU can't agree to not let Ukraine join if a freely elected Govt wants to join.

Can Ukraine agree to demilitarize with what is happening to them ATM? Is a Russian promise not to reinvade worth anything?
Again can NATO agree to withdrawing ( what small forces there were ) from the Baltic States, Poland and other former Soviet states?

International recognition of the 2 breakaway republics would set a dangerous precedent with the way they were formed. Just encourage other military powers to repeat it in areas where they have ethnic populations.

Don't see Putin as the type to accept anything less than what he has been telling his people he wants.

Suppose there is always an answer but hard to see one atm
 
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BodicoteSkyBlue

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  • Feb 26, 2022
  • #835
Nick said:
Fair play to Ukrainians, they have bollocks.

Just random people arming up.
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Bigger bollocks than me, imagine being told to wave your family off & then staying behind to fight the Russians.
I’ve never fired a gun & hope I never have to.
 
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tisza

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  • Feb 26, 2022
  • #836
Tass posted that 3500 Russians had been killed or captured. Then the post was quickly removed.
 

tisza

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  • Feb 26, 2022
  • #837
Seems it's stepping up tonight. News here reports residents in Kiev just been warned of serious air raids tonight. Turn off all lights and seek shelter underground. Also that thermobaric launchers have been spotted near Kiev.
On a lighter note seems like Anonymous causing havoc on Russian state networks Inc. Kremlin and defense ministry.also some TV stations been hacked and Ukrainian national being played live.
 

Alan Dugdales Moustache

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 26, 2022
  • #838
tisza said:
Seems it's stepping up tonight. News here reports residents in Kiev just been warned of serious air raids tonight. Turn off all lights and seek shelter underground. Also that thermobaric launchers have been spotted near Kiev.
On a lighter note seems like Anonymous causing havoc on Russian state networks Inc. Kremlin and defense ministry.also some TV stations been hacked and Ukrainian national being played live.
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Thermobaric bombs are one step away from nuclear.
 
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Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 26, 2022
  • #839




Hard to know what to believe isn't it. We live in fake news times.
 
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tisza

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  • Feb 26, 2022
  • #840
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
Thermobaric bombs are one step away from nuclear.
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Sadly Russia have used them before in Syria.
 
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