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USSR invades Ukraine. (19 Viewers)

  • Thread starter Alan Dugdales Moustache
  • Start date Feb 22, 2022
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fatso

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  • Sep 29, 2023
  • #7,176
PVA said:
I don't watch BBC news, in fact I don't watch any news!

But blaming this on anyone other than Putin is just absurd.
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Oh mate. You are fucking lightyears behind.
Sit back and watch what happens.
 
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Deleted member 9744

Guest
  • Sep 29, 2023
  • #7,177
fatso said:
Seriously mate, you need to stop watching BBC news and educate yourself.

Putin isn't the only crazy world leader out there. America is rotten to the core.
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Where should we be getting our news from? GB news? X? Russia Today?
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 29, 2023
  • #7,178
fatso said:
Oh mate. You are fucking lightyears behind.
Sit back and watch what happens.
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Ok, what's going to happen then?

And why shouldn't we blame Putin for this war and his war crimes?

He's literally killing innocent children and we've got people trying to shift the blame from him? We should go easy on him? For gods sake.

Let's just sit back and watch more war crimes then
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 29, 2023
  • #7,179
PVA said:
Ok, what's going to happen then?

And why shouldn't we blame Putin for this war and his war crimes?

He's literally killing innocent children and we've got people trying to shift the blame from him? We should go easy on him? For gods sake.

Let's just sit back and watch more war crimes then
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indeed lets just do that - after all you want this war to carry on

https://www.osce.org/files/f/documents/b/2/540581.pdf
 
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SBT

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 29, 2023
  • #7,180
Deleted member 9744 said:
Where should we be getting our news from? GB news? X? Russia Today?
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He's already answered this question elsewhere:

fatso said:
I don't support flat earth or lizard people. I prefer to follow common sence.
Common sence should raise doubts in any rational persons mind over the moon landings, if you have the time to read up on the subject you can only realise it was a complete load of BS.
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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 29, 2023
  • #7,181
SBT said:
He's already answered this question elsewhere:
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Are you out there as a war correspondent?

Or is the Gazette getting you to cover the Bowers Gifford branch of the WI in their Great British Bake Off event?
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 29, 2023
  • #7,182
Grendel said:
indeed lets just do that - after all you want this war to carry on

https://www.osce.org/files/f/documents/b/2/540581.pdf
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For the millionth time, there is one simple solution to end the war.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 29, 2023
  • #7,183
PVA said:
For the millionth time, there is one simple solution to end the war.
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There is only one way - negotiation
 
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PVA

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  • Sep 29, 2023
  • #7,184
Grendel said:
There is only one way - negotiation
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There's a good little tankie.

Pathetic.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 29, 2023
  • #7,185
PVA said:
There's a good little tankie.

Pathetic.
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Well that is a very well thought out response. Are you a war historian by profession along with the Tonester?
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 29, 2023
  • #7,186
PVA said:
There's a good little tankie.

Pathetic.
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Action man, when you joining up?

Sent from my Pixel 7 using Tapatalk
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 29, 2023
  • #7,187
fernandopartridge said:
Action man, when you joining up?

Sent from my Pixel 7 using Tapatalk
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Same time you join the Red Army
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 29, 2023
  • #7,188
PVA said:
Same time you join the Red Army
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It disbanded in 1991
 
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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 29, 2023
  • #7,189
PVA said:
Same time you join the Red Army
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He wants peace through talks doesn't he? You want more war but be an armchair general behind a keyboard. If you really feel so impassioned why not volunteer to do something to help?
 
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PVA

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  • Sep 29, 2023
  • #7,190
fernandopartridge said:
It disbanded in 1991
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Gutted
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 29, 2023
  • #7,191
Grendel said:
He wants peace through talks doesn't he? You want more war but be an armchair general behind a keyboard. If you really feel so impassioned why not volunteer to do something to help?
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No I want Russia to leave Ukraine.

Quite simple.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 29, 2023
  • #7,192
PVA said:
No I want Russia to leave Ukraine.

Quite simple.
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They won't - sorry to break that to you
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 29, 2023
  • #7,193
Grendel said:
They won't - sorry to break that to you
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Ukraine was persuaded to let Putin have Crimea in 2014. He then invaded with everything he had in 2022.

So why is letting him have even more of the country this time going to stop future war?
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 29, 2023
  • #7,194
Grendel said:
They won't - sorry to break that to you
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So Ukraine will keep fighting until they are forced out.
 
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Deleted member 9744

Guest
  • Sep 29, 2023
  • #7,195
Grendel said:
Are you out there as a war correspondent?

Or is the Gazette getting you to cover the Bowers Gifford branch of the WI in their Great British Bake Off event?
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So this is the sort of better quality debate you're on about? I get it. Don't think I can cope with that level of intellect.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 29, 2023
  • #7,196
PVA said:
So Ukraine will keep fighting until they are forced out.
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or they are all just be dead
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 29, 2023
  • #7,197
Deleted member 9744 said:
So this is the sort of better quality debate you're on about? I get it. Don't think I can cope with that level of intellect.
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Yes I should get into the type of serious debate that calls people Tankie boy
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 29, 2023
  • #7,198
PVA said:
There's a good little tankie.

Pathetic.
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I mean what does this even mean? Are you admitting to a fetish with men in tank tops? Not for me that
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 29, 2023
  • #7,199
Grendel said:
or they are all just be dead
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And you can throw a party.
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 29, 2023
  • #7,200
Grendel said:
I mean what does this even mean? Are you admitting to a fetish with men in tank tops? Not for me that
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You're a weird bloke.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 29, 2023
  • #7,201
PVA said:
And you can throw a party.
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It’s not me that wants a fight to all are dead - that’s you - your the one who wants bloodshed from the armchair and the keyboard
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 29, 2023
  • #7,202
Deleted member 9744 said:
So this is the sort of better quality debate you're on about? I get it. Don't think I can cope with that level of intellect.
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Amazing isn't it.

Claims he only wants serious discussion but keeps coming out with guff like this.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 29, 2023
  • #7,203
PVA said:
Amazing isn't it.

Claims he only wants serious discussion but keeps coming out with guff like this.
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With respect your contribution is to talk about the red army and say “little tankie”
 

fatso

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 29, 2023
  • #7,204
Deleted member 9744 said:
Where should we be getting our news from? GB news? X? Russia Today?
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Well if you really need to be spoon fed, you could do worse than listen to any of the numerous interviews given by retired colonel douglas macgregor.
He is no longer paid by the US military and isn't sponsored by any news corporation, and so is free to give his honest insights into Ukraine.
Some of his interviews can be found on YouTube if your interested.

Well worth listening to imo.
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 29, 2023
  • #7,205
Grendel said:
With respect your contribution is to talk about the red army and say “little tankie”
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Only in response to your guff.

I've had plenty of interesting discussions in here.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 29, 2023
  • #7,206
PVA said:
Only in response to your guff.

I've had plenty of interesting discussions in here.
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No you’ve lapped up people who support your own views. You never ever engage in actual debate or answer direct challenging questions. I’m more than happy to do that but you ignore such challenges every step of the way - if you want a sensible discussion I’ll do it but you don’t. You never do on any topic - it’s a binary goodie vs baddie world - show me any rational argument against someone with a counter argument you’ve ever made on this topic.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 29, 2023
  • #7,207
Grendel said:
With respect your contribution is to talk about the red army and say “little tankie”
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Yours was to say ‘let Putin crack on with it’.
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 29, 2023
  • #7,208
fatso said:
Well if you really need to be spoon fed, you could do worse than listen to any of the numerous interviews given by retired colonel douglas macgregor.
He is no longer paid by the US military and isn't sponsored by any news corporation, and so is free to give his honest insights into Ukraine.
Some of his interviews can be found on YouTube if your interested.

Well worth listening to imo.
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Didn’t he say it would be over in 24 hours?

How did that expert advice work out?

(edit) I just checked, he did. He’s also claimed several times since that that it would be over within 24 hours. Honestly, if that’s your go to it explains a lot.
 
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PVA

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  • Sep 29, 2023
  • #7,209
fatso said:
Well if you really need to be spoon fed, you could do worse than listen to any of the numerous interviews given by retired colonel douglas macgregor.
He is no longer paid by the US military and isn't sponsored by any news corporation, and so is free to give his honest insights into Ukraine.
Some of his interviews can be found on YouTube if your interested.

Well worth listening to imo.
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Oh for fuck sake

Utter, utter crank.

If people like this are where you and Grendel are getting your news from suddenly it all makes sense.


"In 2014, after the annexation of Crimea by the Russian Federation and during a conflict with Ukraine over its eastern parts, Macgregor appeared on Russian state-owned network RT where he called for annexation of Donbas"

"Three days after the 2022 invasion began, he said "The battle in eastern Ukraine is really almost over," and predicted "If [Ukraine] don't surrender in the next 24 hours, I suspect Russia will ultimately annihilate them." Macgregor said he believed Russia should be allowed to seize whatever parts of Ukraine it wanted."
 
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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 29, 2023
  • #7,210
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Yours was to say ‘let Putin crack on with it’.
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Which meant he and Ukraine should deal with the issue without other involvement - which is still the case
 
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