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USSR invades Ukraine. (19 Viewers)

  • Thread starter Alan Dugdales Moustache
  • Start date Feb 22, 2022
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PVA

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  • Sep 23, 2023
  • #6,896
"if every Ukrainian dies in that decade it’s mission accomplished"

As for this shit... Good grief.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 23, 2023
  • #6,897
PVA said:
It's not lazy.

You clearly don't understand what a counter-offensive is or how this one is going.

I'll ask again, do you think it is failing/has failed?
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It will carry on for years. Again you are focussing on the US led propaganda which wants this war to carry on - it doesn’t want the war to end - it wants the Russian perceived enemy to engage in this trench war fare for a decade if it has its won

This is Classic United States imperialism - it’s not even subtle
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 23, 2023
  • #6,898
PVA said:
"if every Ukrainian dies in that decade it’s mission accomplished"

As for this shit... Good grief.
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If the US withdrew all support what would happen?
 
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PVA

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  • Sep 23, 2023
  • #6,899
Grendel said:
If the US withdrew all support what would happen?
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You throw a party.
 

Grendel

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  • Sep 23, 2023
  • #6,900
PVA said:
You throw a party.
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What would happen?
 
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PVA

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  • Sep 23, 2023
  • #6,901
Grendel said:
What would happen?
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As I say, you have a big party to celebrate Russia's victory.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 23, 2023
  • #6,902
PVA said:
As I say, you have a big party to celebrate Russia's victory.
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Ah so now we are getting somewhere. So is the US support because it cares about Ukraine?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 23, 2023
  • #6,903
Grendel said:
Ah so now we are getting somewhere. So is the US support because it cares about Ukraine?
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Obviously not. But that isn’t a groundbreaking point.

What’s weird is you not minding a Putin land grab on the continent. Not that it’s a sincere view of course.
 
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PVA

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  • Sep 23, 2023
  • #6,904
You're on Russia's side. We get it.



 

Grendel

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  • Sep 23, 2023
  • #6,905
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Obviously not. But that isn’t a groundbreaking point.

What’s weird is you not minding a Putin land grab on the continent. Not that it’s a sincere view of course.
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Did you care in 2014?
 

Grendel

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  • Sep 23, 2023
  • #6,906
PVA said:
You're on Russia's side. We get it.



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No im not but I don’t see why we are sucked into an expensive programme purely because the US think it’s an excellent way of using up their perceived enemies military and political arsenal - however many lives it costs
 
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PVA

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  • Sep 23, 2023
  • #6,907
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Obviously not. But that isn’t a groundbreaking point.

What’s weird is you not minding a Putin land grab on the continent. Not that it’s a sincere view of course.
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It's only fair he grabs a piece. He was provoked after all.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Sep 23, 2023
  • #6,908
Grendel said:
Did you care in 2014?
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…yes?
 
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Grendel

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  • Sep 23, 2023
  • #6,909
PVA said:
It's only fair he grabs a piece. He was provoked after all.
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But why do you as an individual actually care unless you’ve been influenced?
 

Grendel

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  • Sep 23, 2023
  • #6,910
Brighton Sky Blue said:
…yes?
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What did you do?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Sep 23, 2023
  • #6,911
Grendel said:
What did you do?
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What would you have me do? Go over and fight?
 
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PVA

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  • Sep 23, 2023
  • #6,912
Grendel said:
No im not but I don’t see why we are sucked into an expensive programme purely because the US think it’s an excellent way of using up their perceived enemies military and political arsenal - however many lives it costs
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So you'd rather all support is withdrawn (because it's expensive) and just let Russia help themselves to an entire nation.

OK.
 

Grendel

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  • Sep 23, 2023
  • #6,913
jimmyhillsfanclub said:
And via the back door....

Breakingviews - EU will go easy on Indian resale of Russian fuel

Western pledges to prevent the circumvention of anti-Russian sanctions risk falling flat in India. Fuelled by cheap imports from Moscow, the Asian country’s yearly oil products sales to Europe have surged over 70% to $15 billion in the past year, according to data from the Indian Ministry of...
www.reuters.com
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Now this poster is a true socialist - one of only a couple on here - yet this post was ignored @PVA and @Brighton Sky Blue - read it and give a view
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Sep 23, 2023
  • #6,914
Grendel said:
Now this poster is a true socialist - one of only a couple on here - yet this post was ignored @PVA and @Brighton Sky Blue - read it and give a view
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What has this got to do with you supporting a Russian victory?
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 23, 2023
  • #6,915
Grendel said:
Now this poster is a true socialist - one of only a couple on here - yet this post was ignored @PVA and @Brighton Sky Blue - read it and give a view
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Ah shit, you're right.

The EU are the bad guys in all this.

 
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Grendel

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  • Sep 23, 2023
  • #6,916
Brighton Sky Blue said:
What has this got to do with you supporting a Russian victory?
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I don’t support any victory. I think he’s a highly intelligent poster on this and I want your view - answer it
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 23, 2023
  • #6,917
PVA said:
Ah shit, you're right.

The EU are the bad guys in all this.

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Wow - that’s such an intelligent response

See you in two years when it still drags on
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Sep 23, 2023
  • #6,918
Grendel said:
I don’t support any victory. I think he’s a highly intelligent poster on this and I want your view - answer it
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You laughed at the idea that Russia should completely withdraw and pay reparations?
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 23, 2023
  • #6,919
Grendel said:
Wow - that’s such an intelligent response

See you in two years when it still drags on
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It's the response you deserve.

You were asked if the counter offensive is failing and you responsed with:

- USA is happy for every single Ukrainian to die
- Ukraine would lose if US support was withdrawn
- Went back 4 months to find a story saying the EU is indirectly buying Russian fuel


None of which are relevant. Just constantly moving the goalposts and putting over your weird pro Russian agenda.
 

Grendel

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  • Sep 23, 2023
  • #6,920
Brighton Sky Blue said:
You laughed at the idea that Russia should completely withdraw and pay reparations?
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Because they won’t - it’s odd people are so invested in a country which is equally racist homophobic and transphobic- it’s a vile place - just don’t know why we care
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 23, 2023
  • #6,921
PVA said:
It's the response you deserve.

You were asked if the counter offensive is failing and you responsed with:

- USA is happy for every single Ukrainian to die
- Ukraine would lose if US support was withdrawn
- Went back 4 months to find a story saying the EU is indirectly buying Russian fuel


None of which are relevant. Just constantly moving the goalposts and putting over your weird pro Russian agenda.
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Can you respond to @jimmyhillsfanclub post please

cheers
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 23, 2023
  • #6,922
Anyway neither of you are answering so I’ll leave you to it
 
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PVA

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  • Sep 23, 2023
  • #6,923
Grendel said:
Can you respond to @jimmyhillsfanclub post please

cheers
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Yes like I said, you've convinced me the EU are actually the bad guys.

Now can you answer whether you think the counter offensive is failing/has failed?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 23, 2023
  • #6,924
Grendel said:
Because they won’t - it’s odd people are so invested in a country which is equally racist homophobic and transphobic- it’s a vile place - just don’t why we care
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Saying they should isn’t saying they will. It’s not really about a passion for Ukraine, but it is about a serious amount of land and resources that would be absorbed by a hostile state. Not to mention the very serious possibility of mass war crimes.

It undermines the security of the rest of the continent.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Sep 23, 2023
  • #6,925
Grendel said:
Can you respond to @jimmyhillsfanclub post please

cheers
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Nothing to say besides I don’t support India undermining the sanctions nor would I support the EU going light on it either. Not that this is of any great shock
 
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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 23, 2023
  • #6,926
As I said I’ll leave you two armchair generals to jerk each other off
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 23, 2023
  • #6,927
Grendel said:
As I said I’ll leave you two armchair generals to jerk each other off
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What? For thinking maybe it's not a good idea to allow Putin to take a country off the map?
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 23, 2023
  • #6,928
Grendel said:
As I said I’ll leave you two armchair generals to jerk each other off
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Refuse to answer questions aimed at you then flounce off in a huff because no one answers your questions the way you want


 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 23, 2023
  • #6,929
jimmyhillsfanclub said:
The USA likes this.
The EU likes this.
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Indeed
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 23, 2023
  • #6,930
Grendel said:
No im not but I don’t see why we are sucked into an expensive programme purely because the US think it’s an excellent way of using up their perceived enemies military and political arsenal - however many lives it costs
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Because if we leave it for Putin to crack on it gets way more expensive later on.

Wasn't he going to stop after getting Crimea?
 
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