Otis
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I did. I was a fan of his pretty much until that point. I really disliked him from that point on.
I did. I was a fan of his pretty much until that point. I really disliked him from that point on.So you did oppose Blair’s illegal war?
I really don’t know one person who didn’t oppose it. I really don’t know one person who didn’t despise Tony Blair after. I also don’t know one person who after the event, lack of weapons of mass destruction and the dressed up dossier that turned out to be nothing more than a student’s hypothetical thesis hasn’t come to the conclusion that Blair should have been put in front of The Hague.I did. I was a fan of his pretty much until that point. I really disliked him from that point on.
It didn’t undo all the good he did before it for me thoighI really don’t know one person who didn’t oppose it. I really don’t know one person who didn’t despise Tony Blair after. I also don’t know one person who after the event, lack of weapons of mass destruction and the dressed up dossier that turned out to be nothing more than a student’s hypothetical thesis hasn’t come to the conclusion that Blair should have been put in front of The Hague.
It did for me. I recognise his achievements Middle East aside but the gulf war, especially the second did more damage than just an unjustified war. It’s been a recruitment tool for Islamic extremism that has probably done more damage than the Iraq invasion on its own and it’s a shockwave still being felt 20 years later and will probably be felt for another 20. Minimum Wage, longest period of sustained growth in UK history, the continuation of the peace process leading to the GFA, “ban” on fox hunting etc etc doesn’t wipe the slate clean for the war in my opinion. Russia is also using it as justification for invading Ukraine.It didn’t undo all the good he did before it for me thoigh
I was passive on the invasion. If it was now, I would be more skeptical about this. My only thought was that it was about oil anyway.I really don’t know one person who didn’t oppose it. I really don’t know one person who didn’t despise Tony Blair after. I also don’t know one person who after the event, lack of weapons of mass destruction and the dressed up dossier that turned out to be nothing more than a student’s hypothetical thesis hasn’t come to the conclusion that Blair should have been put in front of The Hague.
Have they got enough shovels?
Well, they have, but they are using them instead of rifles and bullets at the moment.Have they got enough shovels?
That's the Russian way of warfare. Just throw more and more troops into the battle and reinforce success wherever it occurs.there being slaughtered, whole companies running across open fields to be slaughtered by Ukrainian machine guns
Understandable and well put but still think a lot of good was done in first termIt did for me. I recognise his achievements Middle East aside but the gulf war, especially the second did more damage than just an unjustified war. It’s been a recruitment tool for Islamic extremism that has probably done more damage than the Iraq invasion on its own and it’s a shockwave still being felt 20 years later and will probably be felt for another 20. Minimum Wage, longest period of sustained growth in UK history, the continuation of the peace process leading to the GFA, “ban” on fox hunting etc etc doesn’t wipe the slate clean for the war in my opinion. Russia is also using it as justification for invading Ukraine.
there being slaughtered, whole companies running across open fields to be slaughtered by Ukrainian machine guns
whole companies being wiped out for no ukrainian lossesLost 500 men in Bakhmut alone yesterday.
Just crazy numbers and it's not sustainable.
I think that Ukrainian losses have been high, too.whole companies being wiped out for no ukrainian losses
no, not at anywhere near the same levelI think that Ukrainian losses have been high, too.
The Russian soldiers shouldn’t have poked the bear.Lost 500 men in Bakhmut alone yesterday.
Just crazy numbers and it's not sustainable.
no, not at anywhere near the same level
I just know that when Russia send bombs into the towns and cities in Ukraine, the official death toll always seems low.up to 200 every day isn’t it?
I just know that when Russia send bombs into the towns and cities in Ukraine, the official death toll always seems low.
I'm sure the actual casualties are much higher unfortunately.
Always knew you were a closet Guardian reader.This at least is an independent sort of analysis - the best you’ll get rather than the declared numbers by both sides - which clearly are not reliable
Ukrainian forces still trying to hold Bakhmut despite heavy casualties
Soldiers and analysts suggest defending city has become more of a political than practical issue, as Russian push continuesamp.theguardian.com
Like the article suggests it's a political hold. Earlier in the war Ukraine were holding on long enough in conflict points to inflict damage then withdrawing before losses mounted. All the "experts" say Bakmut has little value so seems little point in Ukraine taking casualties other than political stupidity.This at least is an independent sort of analysis - the best you’ll get rather than the declared numbers by both sides - which clearly are not reliable
Ukrainian forces still trying to hold Bakhmut despite heavy casualties
Soldiers and analysts suggest defending city has become more of a political than practical issue, as Russian push continuesamp.theguardian.com
Anyone else feel the need to bookmark this for the next time Grendel claims the Guardian is leftist propaganda?This at least is an independent sort of analysis - the best you’ll get rather than the declared numbers by both sides - which clearly are not reliable
Ukrainian forces still trying to hold Bakhmut despite heavy casualties
Soldiers and analysts suggest defending city has become more of a political than practical issue, as Russian push continuesamp.theguardian.com
Anyone else feel the need to bookmark this for the next time Grendel claims the Guardian is leftist propaganda?
Lots of disinformation regarding the US drone in the last 24 hours. I wish someone would make their mind up as to what actually happened to it.
Where did you read that?Russia is resorting to sending female prisoners to the front line now ffs.
Definitely not getting desperate, no siree. Special operation is going perfectly to plan.
Where did you read that?
Lots of disinformation regarding the US drone in the last 24 hours. I wish someone would make their mind up as to what actually happened to it.
So the piloting is the Russian Airforce is pretty shit as wellHere you go
Was reported due to cost they only get 60 hours per year actual flying time.So the piloting is the Russian Airforce is pretty shit as well
Why pay for fuel and to maintain the planes when you can"divert" that money into super yachtsWas reported due to cost they only get 60 hours per year actual flying time.
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