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USSR invades Ukraine. (9 Viewers)

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PVA

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  • Mar 9, 2023
  • #6,021
Grendel said:
So you did oppose Blair’s illegal war?
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Deleted member 9744

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  • Mar 9, 2023
  • #6,022
Grendel said:
No one gives a fuck about victims on the other side of a war on any side - it’s war
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Are you saying you don't and you think it is hilarious if the perpetrators are not brought to justice?
 

Grendel

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  • Mar 9, 2023
  • #6,023
PVA said:
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That was an invasion? What was the difference to Russia invading Ukraine, you can’t answer - fair enough
 

Grendel

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  • Mar 9, 2023
  • #6,024
Deleted member 9744 said:
Are you saying you don't and you think it is hilarious if the perpetrators are not brought to justice?
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I didn’t say war crimes were I said the US stance was and the hypocrisy on this thread is genuinely hilarious - we support war criminals when it suits
 
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PVA

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  • Mar 9, 2023
  • #6,025
Grendel said:
I didn’t say war crimes were
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You literally did.
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • Mar 9, 2023
  • #6,026
Grendel said:
I didn’t say war crimes were I said the US stance was and the hypocrisy on this thread is genuinely hilarious - we support war criminals when it suits
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You said people not being held to account for war crimes was hilarious.

Why not admit it was a mistake and stop deflecting?
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Mar 9, 2023
  • #6,027
Evo1883 said:
They've committed some henious crimes themselves
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Exactly
 
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PVA

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  • Mar 9, 2023
  • #6,028
Their great big offensive is seemingly done. No capability to advance any further.

 

Grendel

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  • Mar 9, 2023
  • #6,029
Some strange goings on here

Lots of comprehension issues around claims I support war crimes

Clearly some posters have had a bang on the head
 

Grendel

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  • Mar 9, 2023
  • #6,030
PVA said:
You literally did.
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Where?
 
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PVA

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  • Mar 9, 2023
  • #6,031
Grendel said:
Where?
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Right here:


Deleted member 9744 said:
Not so funny for the people who have been murdered, raped and had their lives destroyed by the war or previous wars is it though?
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Grendel said:
Well it is given the moral high ground taken on this thread and the belief the US cares a fuck what Russia do in Ukraine
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'not so funny for the people killed is it?'
'Well it is because...'
 

Grendel

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  • Mar 9, 2023
  • #6,032
Deleted member 9744 said:
You said people not being held to account for war crimes was hilarious.

Why not admit it was a mistake and stop deflecting?
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So show me where I said “people not being held to account for war crimes was hilarious”
 

Grendel

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  • Mar 9, 2023
  • #6,033
PVA said:
Right here:






'not so funny for the people killed is it?'
'Well it is because...'
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The hypocrisy and pretend outrage is funny - yes it’s genuinely hilarious as is the siding of the biggest war mongering state - so the Nepalm the systematic torture and barbarism of the US as they are on the right side of your argument will always be condoned by you and Herts and yes it truly is funny
 
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PVA

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  • Mar 9, 2023
  • #6,034
Grendel said:
The hypocrisy and pretend outrage is funny - yes it’s genuinely hilarious as is the siding of the biggest war mongering state - so the Nepalm the systematic torture and barbarism of the US as they are on the right side of your argument will always be condoned by you and Herts and yes it truly is funny
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You think war crimes are hilarious.

Can you point out where I've said the same? No. So stop trying to make out I'm the bad guy.
 

Flying Fokker

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  • Mar 9, 2023
  • #6,035
PVA said:
Their great big offensive is seemingly done. No capability to advance any further.

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It’s a bit strange at the moment. I read that a team of The SAS is attempting to procure munitions for Russian artillery (Due to shortages of shells/ Soviet era arms. Both sides have this issue. 7 times as many shells discharged by the Russians.

Ukraine artillery units are rationed to 6 shells a day. So if a target in located, it takes 3 shots to hone in on the target and 3 to destroy it apparently. It’s interesting that the casualties in Bachmut are 7 times higher amongst the Russians.

The British SAS is actively supporting our govt. procurement bods in making black market contacts with all countries that have stockpiles. Africa is one area where there is stock but the race is on to beat the Russians to it. Big money is changing hands.

Russia also buying huge amounts of arms stock from N.Korea.


loads of sources but here’s one. British SAS Soldier Undercover Arms Dealer, Travels World Search Artillery for Ukraine
 
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PVA

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  • Mar 9, 2023
  • #6,036
Flying Fokker said:
It’s a bit strange at the moment. I read that a team of SAS are attempting to procure munitions for Russian artillery (Due to shortages of shells/ Soviet era arms. Both sides have this issue. 7 times as many shells discharged by the Russians.

Ukraine artillery units are rationed to 6 shells a day. So if a target in located, it takes 3 shots to hone in on the target and 3 to destroy it apparently. It’s interesting that the casualties in Bachmut are 7 times higher amongst the Russians.

The British SAS is actively supporting our govt. procurement bods in making black market contacts with all countries that have stockpiles. Africa is one area where there is stock but the race is on to beat the Russians to it. Big money is changing hands.
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Interesting, I haven't come across that.

Ukraine do at least have the advantage of the US provided shells, literally millions so far.
 

Grendel

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  • Mar 9, 2023
  • #6,037
PVA said:
You think war crimes are hilarious.

Can you point out where I've said the same? No. So stop trying to make out I'm the bad guy.
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you support the supplying of arms from a county who doesn’t want Russia’s prosecution for war crimes. Go figure
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Mar 9, 2023
  • #6,038
Grendel said:
That was an invasion? What was the difference to Russia invading Ukraine, you can’t answer - fair enough
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You have in the past laughed when I suggested Blair and Bush should stand in the dock for the carnage in Iraq but go on acting like people think the US is innocent.
 
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PVA

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  • Mar 9, 2023
  • #6,039
Grendel said:
you support the supplying of arms from a county who doesn’t want Russia’s prosecution for war crimes. Go figure
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Can you point out where I've said that agree with their stance on that? No.

You think war crimes are hilarious.
 

Grendel

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  • Mar 9, 2023
  • #6,040
PVA said:
Can you point out where I've said that agree with their stance on that? No.

You think war crimes are hilarious.
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I think your selective view is
 

Grendel

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  • Mar 9, 2023
  • #6,041
Brighton Sky Blue said:
You have in the past laughed when I suggested Blair and Bush should stand in the dock for the carnage in Iraq but go on acting like people think the US is innocent.
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Well yes as I think it’s for the birds really - but having Bush Blair seemingly Biden and big bad Putin in the same category of criminality is funny isn’t it?
 

Grendel

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  • Mar 9, 2023
  • #6,042
Evo1883 said:
When America calls anybody a terrorist
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come on - they are the White Wizard trying to remove Ukraine from the evil Dark Lord. All of course as they are such good guys
 
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PVA

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  • Mar 9, 2023
  • #6,043
Grendel said:
I think your selective view is
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We'll file war crimes being funny alongside letting Putin crack on with it and Russia was provoked into invading
 

Grendel

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  • Mar 9, 2023
  • #6,044
PVA said:
We'll file war crimes being funny alongside letting Putin crack on with it and Russia was provoked into invading
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Whose we? And what are you filing it to - sounds a bit sinister to me
 
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PVA

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  • Mar 9, 2023
  • #6,045
Grendel said:
Whose we? And what are you filing it to - sounds a bit sinister to me
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More sinister than hilarious war crimes no doubt.
 

Grendel

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  • Mar 9, 2023
  • #6,046
PVA said:
More sinister than hilarious war crimes no doubt.
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Whose we? Please answer and where’s it being filed?
 
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PVA

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  • Mar 9, 2023
  • #6,047
I know the standard of living has dropped recently, but didn't realise it had got this bad


 
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skybluetony176

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  • Mar 9, 2023
  • #6,048
PVA said:
I know the standard of living has dropped recently, but didn't realise it had got this bad


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tisza

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  • Mar 10, 2023
  • #6,049
Flying Fokker said:
It’s a bit strange at the moment. I read that a team of The SAS is attempting to procure munitions for Russian artillery (Due to shortages of shells/ Soviet era arms. Both sides have this issue. 7 times as many shells discharged by the Russians.

Ukraine artillery units are rationed to 6 shells a day. So if a target in located, it takes 3 shots to hone in on the target and 3 to destroy it apparently. It’s interesting that the casualties in Bachmut are 7 times higher amongst the Russians.

The British SAS is actively supporting our govt. procurement bods in making black market contacts with all countries that have stockpiles. Africa is one area where there is stock but the race is on to beat the Russians to it. Big money is changing hands.

Russia also buying huge amounts of arms stock from N.Korea.


loads of sources but here’s one. British SAS Soldier Undercover Arms Dealer, Travels World Search Artillery for Ukraine
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Also buying ammunition from Iran in large quantities. No surprise Ukrainian and Russian stocks running low as few thought a modern conflict would be fought or last this long. Western stocks are struggling to be replenished. Surprise after a year is how Russian industry is unable to supply its needs.
Casualty ratios around Bakhmut could be do to with the Wagner group and its methods - prisoners with no training, a kamikaze approach from a leader even dodgier than Putin.
 
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PVA

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  • Mar 10, 2023
  • #6,050
Hmm, now where have I heard this before?

"During a radio interview with Fox News host (and longtime confidant) Sean Hannity on Monday, the twice-impeached ex-president finally revealed how he personally would have prevented the war. According to Trump, all he needed to do was let Russia “take over” parts of Ukraine."

Trump envisioned deal to let Russia ‘take over’ parts of Ukraine

Donald Trump has a vision, and it involves Ukrainian officials giving up parts of their country to Russia. What could possibly go wrong? Quite a bit.
www.msnbc.com
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Mar 10, 2023
  • #6,051
PVA said:
Hmm, now where have I heard this before?

"During a radio interview with Fox News host (and longtime confidant) Sean Hannity on Monday, the twice-impeached ex-president finally revealed how he personally would have prevented the war. According to Trump, all he needed to do was let Russia “take over” parts of Ukraine."

Trump envisioned deal to let Russia ‘take over’ parts of Ukraine

Donald Trump has a vision, and it involves Ukrainian officials giving up parts of their country to Russia. What could possibly go wrong? Quite a bit.
www.msnbc.com
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Trump is grendel
 
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Flying Fokker

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  • Mar 10, 2023
  • #6,052
If only war was as simple as a snowball fight.

yesterday on the school run:

Mother to son

”Now remember, don’t hit them directly in the face.”

The message cut the crap, but both mum and son trusted each other and had a good idea what may happen if the basic rules were ignored.

It brought back memories of life’s lessons when growing up. And how adults play By a different set of rules.
 
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Flying Fokker

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  • Mar 10, 2023
  • #6,053
PVA said:
I know the standard of living has dropped recently, but didn't realise it had got this bad


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Squirrels for fucks sake.

if any of you have an air rifle, I have 6 in or around my garden.
 
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tisza

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  • Mar 10, 2023
  • #6,054
Flying Fokker said:
Squirrels for fucks sake.

if any of you have an air rifle, I have 6 in or around my garden.
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squirrel's nice anyway. Isn't it more expensive than chicken in UK? phase when it was often on posh pub menus.
 

tisza

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 10, 2023
  • #6,055
PVA said:
Hmm, now where have I heard this before?

"During a radio interview with Fox News host (and longtime confidant) Sean Hannity on Monday, the twice-impeached ex-president finally revealed how he personally would have prevented the war. According to Trump, all he needed to do was let Russia “take over” parts of Ukraine."

Trump envisioned deal to let Russia ‘take over’ parts of Ukraine

Donald Trump has a vision, and it involves Ukrainian officials giving up parts of their country to Russia. What could possibly go wrong? Quite a bit.
www.msnbc.com
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Would have thought history teaches that forcing countries to cede territory always brings problems in the future.
 
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