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USSR invades Ukraine. (6 Viewers)

  • Thread starter Alan Dugdales Moustache
  • Start date Feb 22, 2022
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David O'Day

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  • Feb 22, 2023
  • #5,706
PVA said:
Not sure why they would surrender when they occupy Kyiv
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He's pissed and bored

just laugh at him
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 22, 2023
  • #5,707
PVA said:
Not sure why they would surrender when they occupy Kyiv
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Well that’s a deflection - when will they surrender - you are the expert
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 22, 2023
  • #5,708
Grendel said:
Do you think we should have intervened in Cyprus?
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Far be it from me to give you a history lesson but we did intervene in Cyprus.
 
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PVA

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  • Feb 22, 2023
  • #5,709
Grendel said:
Well that’s a deflection - when will they surrender - you are the expert
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I haven't ever claimed to know when they will surrender, how could anyone know.

You did of course predict Kyiv would fall within days so I bow to your superior expertise.
 

Grendel

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  • Feb 22, 2023
  • #5,710
skybluetony176 said:
Far be it from me to give you a history lesson but we did intervene in Cyprus.
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And in what way was that Tony?
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 22, 2023
  • #5,711
Grendel said:
And in what way was that Tony?
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The intervention way of intervening. Did you actually define the definition of "intervened"?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 22, 2023
  • #5,712
Grendel said:
Well that’s a deflection - when will they surrender - you are the expert
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To add in again, we have already tried Ukraine conceding territory to Putin to make him stop attacking. He invaded again 8 years later. So how is it the solution for them to agree to hand over even more?
 
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David O'Day

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  • Feb 22, 2023
  • #5,713
Brighton Sky Blue said:
To add in again, we have already tried Ukraine conceding territory to Putin to make him stop attacking. He invaded again 8 years later. So how is it the solution for them to agree to hand over even more?
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It's not, he doesn't think this.

If everyone was pro Putin he'd be the opposite. It's his thing
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 22, 2023
  • #5,714
David O'Day said:
It's not, he doesn't think this.

If everyone was pro Putin he'd be the opposite. It's his thing
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I get he’s just being contrarian but FP does actually believe it.
 

David O'Day

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  • Feb 22, 2023
  • #5,715
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I get he’s just being contrarian but FP does actually believe it.
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That's the strange one, his hearts probably in the right place but just wrong in this case
 
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PVA

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  • Feb 22, 2023
  • #5,716
Yeah let's sit down and agree peace with Putin, he's a real honourable chap who absolutely won't go back on his word at some point in the future


 
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PVA

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  • Feb 22, 2023
  • #5,717
Also Wagner founder Yevgeny Prigozhin is publicly slating Shoigu and other top military figures, blaming them for lack of supplies alongside a picture he posted of what must be 50 dead Wagner soldiers.
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 22, 2023
  • #5,718
Grendel said:
And in what way was that Tony?
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My god you’re clueless. Do you seriously need a lecture on our involvement in Cyprus? I said it tongue in cheek because I thought you were just trolling but it sounds like you do need a lesson.
 

David O'Day

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  • Feb 22, 2023
  • #5,719
skybluetony176 said:
My god you’re clueless. Do you seriously need a lecture on our involvement in Cyprus? I said it tongue in cheek because I thought you were just trolling but it sounds like you do need a lesson.
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He's thick as mince mate, if you mentioned the cod wars with Iceland he'd wonder where a shop could get a navy from.
 

skybluetony176

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  • Feb 22, 2023
  • #5,720
David O'Day said:
The intervention way of intervening. Did you actually define the definition of "intervened"?
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I mean it was literally every way. We brokered the agreement between Greece and Turkey ahead of Cyprus’ independence from the UK, we trained and armed the Cyprus National Guard ahead of Turkey’s invasion, we still arm and train them to this day and this is going to come as a shock to grendull but we still have military bases in Cyprus.
 

Flying Fokker

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 22, 2023
  • #5,721
PVA said:
Yeah let's sit down and agree peace with Putin, he's a real honourable chap who absolutely won't go back on his word at some point in the future


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Could Moldova be annexed on 24/02/23. Did someone mention that they already have Russian troops there. I know that there are 100k Russian citizens there already
 

David O'Day

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  • Feb 22, 2023
  • #5,722
Flying Fokker said:
Could Moldova be annexed on 24/02/23. Did someone mention that they already have Russian troops there. I know that there are 100k Russian citizens there already
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Probably not
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 22, 2023
  • #5,723
If Putin goes into another country with the express intent of invading then the west will escalate.

Putin will not use nuclear weapons as even in the mentally deficient state he finds himself he still understands MAD and more importantly so the people close to him.

In a non nuclear war the west beats Russia in weeks
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 22, 2023
  • #5,724
skybluetony176 said:
I mean it was literally every way. We brokered the agreement between Greece and Turkey ahead of Cyprus’ independence from the UK, we trained and armed the Cyprus National Guard ahead of Turkey’s invasion, we still arm and train them to this day and this is going to come as a shock to grendull but we still have military bases in Cyprus.
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As one Greek Cypriot put it to me

‘British colonialism bad, Turkish colonialism worse’
 
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PVA

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  • Feb 22, 2023
  • #5,725
Flying Fokker said:
Could Moldova be annexed on 24/02/23. Did someone mention that they already have Russian troops there. I know that there are 100k Russian citizens there already
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They only have about 1,500 troops there, not many at all.
 

Grendel

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  • Feb 22, 2023
  • #5,726
PVA said:
I haven't ever claimed to know when they will surrender, how could anyone know.

You did of course predict Kyiv would fall within days so I bow to your superior expertise.
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What if they never will surrender? What then just kill everyone?
 

Grendel

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  • Feb 22, 2023
  • #5,727
“We brokered an agreement”

Tony agrees with me then
 

skybluetony176

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  • Feb 22, 2023
  • #5,728
David O'Day said:
He's thick as mince mate, if you mentioned the cod wars with Iceland he'd wonder where a shop could get a navy from.
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He probably thinks 2 fish got battered and they were the only casualties.
 

Grendel

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  • Feb 22, 2023
  • #5,729
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I get he’s just being contrarian but FP does actually believe it.
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Ive believed it from day 1 - sorry that’s it. The ignorant nonsense spouted on here is for the birds - what does FP actually believe in? Is it bad?
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 22, 2023
  • #5,730
Grendel said:
“We brokered an agreement”

Tony agrees with me then
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You don’t even agree with you do what makes you think I do god only knows.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 22, 2023
  • #5,731
David O'Day said:
If Putin goes into another country with the express intent of invading then the west will escalate.

Putin will not use nuclear weapons as even in the mentally deficient state he finds himself he still understands MAD and more importantly so the people close to him.

In a non nuclear war the west beats Russia in weeks
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So why don’t we just roll into Moscow David?
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 22, 2023
  • #5,732
skybluetony176 said:
You don’t even agree with you do what makes you think I do god only knows.
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You actually admit a settlement was agreed Tony. This is a war where no settlement is the solution isn’t it?
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 22, 2023
  • #5,733
Rumours circulating that Ukraine forces are preparing to liberate Transnistria. I don't believe it, but would be quite ballsy if they did.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 22, 2023
  • #5,734
PVA said:
Rumours circulating that Ukraine forces are preparing to liberate Transnistria. I don't believe it, but would be quite ballsy if they did.
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Sounds exciting - whose your source on the ground?
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 22, 2023
  • #5,735
Grendel said:
Sounds exciting - whose your source on the ground?
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Not the guy that said Kyiv would fall in days.
 

Grendel

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  • Feb 22, 2023
  • #5,736
PVA said:
Not the guy that said Kyiv would fall in days.
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Who is it? Is it Tony?
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 22, 2023
  • #5,737
Great banter.
 

Flying Fokker

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  • Feb 22, 2023
  • #5,738
PVA said:
They only have about 1,500 troops there, not many at all.
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Yes, but what stops them from piling a few more in. Smaller country. Easy 24/2/23 win? Strategic diversion could of course lead to escalation.

I hope Russia gets stuffed wherever they end up.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 22, 2023
  • #5,739
Grendel said:
Ive believed it from day 1 - sorry that’s it. The ignorant nonsense spouted on here is for the birds - what does FP actually believe in? Is it bad?
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Zelensky bad

Ukraine should give up now and hand over some territory

It’s a weird line of argument to criticise the country getting invaded more than the one invading-but you know that.
 

SBAndy

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 22, 2023
  • #5,740
skybluetony176 said:
I mean it was literally every way. We brokered the agreement between Greece and Turkey ahead of Cyprus’ independence from the UK, we trained and armed the Cyprus National Guard ahead of Turkey’s invasion, we still arm and train them to this day and this is going to come as a shock to grendull but we still have military bases in Cyprus.
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Not well versed in this but surely the fact we have troops still there - something Russia sees as a ‘Red Line’ - means the situations are not comparable?
 
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