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I did it GCSE too. Can't say what it's like for the current generation mind you!
I did it GCSE too. Can't say what it's like for the current generation mind you!I did Irish history in my a level history course but
Is the fact they're psychotic really a good reason to cede things to them? Give people that are totally crazy whatever they want to try and placate them, even though every time that's been done in history it hasn't worked.Well if you think Mr Putin is going to retreat day sorry and give up that seems far more fanciful to me
There is also the notion that if Putin goes some cuddly Gorbachev figure will turn up. Given he is less popular in Russia than Liz Truss here that’s not happening either. In fact Labarov and the old guard are properly itching to go down in a blaze of glory - literally
Is the fact they're psychotic really a good reason to cede things to them? Give people that are totally crazy whatever they want to try and placate them, even though every time that's been done in history it hasn't worked.
Go down that road and the world will be an even worse place than it already is, and that's saying something. Give in to everyone like that and it emboldens others and eventually all you're left with is warlords constantly trying to gain more territory and using ordinary people as cannon fodder to try and achieve (and inevitably fail) their warped thirst for power. There would be no rights, just the constant working towards the desires of a maniac dressed up as being what is best for the country.
I'm always glad that you're not in charge of anything important, but I'm REALLY glad you're not in charge of our policy on Russia.
In the sense of providing weapons and ammunition to enable Ukraine to defend itself.
I'm trying to understand your point of view, but it's hard to gauge your argument from the odd pithy remark. Why not explain where you're coming from?
From my point of view it just looks like domestic politicians e.g. Johnson, Truss and Starmer doing what they think is most popular, it doesn't feel like something that is made with any genuine view to getting this situation resolved any time soon. I think it's fanciful that all it needs is more war to end war.
Sounds goodThe general view on here seems to be that Putin can be shoved back into Russia with his tail between his legs and he will just look a bit embarrassed and it will never be talked about again.
Sounds good
Almost the dream scenario except you’ve missed the bit where he mysteriously falls from a 4th floor window 2 weeks later.The general view on here seems to be that Putin can be shoved back into Russia with his tail between his legs and he will just look a bit embarrassed and it will never be talked about again.
It feels like a fanciful idea that a few fighter jets wins the war and that's that. Where are they going?
It sounds - and is - ridiculous
The general view on here seems to be that Putin can be shoved back into Russia with his tail between his legs and he will just look a bit embarrassed and it will never be talked about again.
Almost the dream scenario except you’ve missed the bit where he mysteriously falls from a 4th floor window 2 weeks later.
And your view seems to be that without outside support Ukrainians will just doen arms and start dancing hand in hand with Russians, rather than a massively prolonged and bloody war. Which also happens to embolden Russia on the global stage.
Absolute fruitcake. Total coincidence of course this side is coming from those that like to get their media from fringe sources that are well documented to take Russian cash.
So you forsee a situation where Russia will at some point surrender and disappear from Ukraine forever do you?
Why not?
We're 365 days into their 3 day war.
They're literally going backwards.
They won't 'surrender' because Putin wouldn't be able to admit it to his people. But some sort of 'tactical withdrawal' after their 'objectives have been completed' or some shit, like they did in Kyiv.
You'd be the type of person who mocked Lord Grey and his lights out speech
The notion this will end in a surrender is deranged.
You'd be the type of person who mocked Lord Grey and his lights out speech
The notion this will end in a surrender is deranged.
Yet not as deranged as demanding the Ukranians put down their weapons.
From my point of view it just looks like domestic politicians e.g. Johnson, Truss and Starmer doing what they think is most popular, it doesn't feel like something that is made with any genuine view to getting this situation resolved any time soon. I think it's fanciful that all it needs is more war to end war.
I'm not for a moment saying that there isn't a large element of playing to the gallery for the politicians involved, especially Johnson.
However, isn't it also fairly obvious that without western support, Russia takes a sovereign, democratic, European, state, by force. Is that acceptable to you?
It’s not entirely democratic is it?
Oh that's alright then, crack on Vlad
Deflect deflect deflect
However, isn't it also fairly obvious that without western support, Russia takes a sovereign, democratic, European state, by force. Is that acceptable to you?
Not according to some on here - Russia on the back foot already according to PVA?
Not according to some on here - Russia on the back foot already according to PVA?
He’s the SBT war correspondent - a huge military expert who clearly has huge knowledge of European conflicts through history. He’s up there in intellect with our property expert.
Not according to some on here - Russia on the back foot already according to PVA?
You doing the pretending people aren't answering your questions or are you so pissed you have forgotten you have tried that line on another topic already?Also if it is a deflection I assume @Sick Boy was deflecting as well?
From what exactly?
A question you are incapable of answering?
You doing the pretending people aren't answering your questions or are you so pissed you have forgotten you have tried that line on another topic already?
They've been on the backfoot since about April last year, that's pretty obvious to anyone following it.
And I don't think anyone has said that without western support Ukraine would be just fine.
I'm far from angry, more amused at you trying to debate when clearly pissedDavid you look absolutely ridiculous - you are angry. Go and get Gerry to give you a massage.
When’s it ending and Russia surrender?
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