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USSR invades Ukraine. (9 Viewers)

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Otis

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  • Nov 11, 2022
  • #5,111
eastwoodsdustman said:
I saw it had been announced on Russain TV that the Russians will be naming a street in Kherson after him. I wonder when that will take place?
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And where, because his foot with be in one road and his arms and torso in a completely different suburb.
 
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tisza

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  • Nov 11, 2022
  • #5,112
Powerful images of Kherson inhabitants welcoming their liberators. Russians destroyed the power supply before they left.
City I've been to several times. Happy it's free but they've paid huge price.
 
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Nov 11, 2022
  • #5,113
skybluetony176 said:
Last time I checked we aren’t married so why you think what I do or don’t do has anything to do with you whatsoever is baffling to me.
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I just think it's fucking weird that you are a member of a CCFC forum and only comment on off the field issues and the off topic politics section.
 

skybluetony176

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  • Nov 12, 2022
  • #5,114
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
I just think it's fucking weird that you are a member of a CCFC forum and only comment on off the field issues and the off topic politics section.
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I really don’t know what it’s got to do with you or why you take such an interest in what I do or don’t comment on. What I find weird is that it’s keeping you awake at night.
 

baldy

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  • Nov 12, 2022
  • #5,115
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
I just think it's fucking weird that you are a member of a CCFC forum and only comment on off the field issues and the off topic politics section.
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Mate - you are acting fucking bizarre over where he posts
Why’d you care so much? It’s totally up to him
 
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Otis

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  • Nov 12, 2022
  • #5,116
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
I just think it's fucking weird that you are a member of a CCFC forum and only comment on off the field issues and the off topic politics section.
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By the same token I go on Mumsnet and never talk about mums.
 
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Flying Fokker

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  • Nov 12, 2022
  • #5,117
Otis said:
By the same token I go on Mumsnet and never talk about mums.
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Laurel and hardy skit came to mind then. But I suppose I need to go to a Laurel and Hardy forum?
 
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JAM See

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  • Nov 12, 2022
  • #5,118
Otis said:
By the same token I go on Mumsnet and never talk about mums.
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Good point, well made.

I go to a site and never talk about hubs.
 
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PVA

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  • Nov 13, 2022
  • #5,119
The lads who insisted Russia were winning the war don't post in here anymore.

What are your views now?

Not looking for a pile on or a gotcha or anything, just genuinely interested to hear your thoughts.
 

Flying Fokker

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  • Nov 13, 2022
  • #5,120
Maybe they will be buoyed by this article. Moscow pundit calls for army to prepare ‘full-scale war in Europe'
 

tisza

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  • Nov 13, 2022
  • #5,121
Flying Fokker said:
Maybe they will be buoyed by this article. Moscow pundit calls for army to prepare ‘full-scale war in Europe'
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They just don't get it.
NATO didn't "recruit" these countries - these countries wanted to join to preserve their newly won independence after 40 years of Soviet control. The thinking here now is that if we weren't part of NATO we would be next in line for Russian expansion. And on a country by country (except Poland) basis the Russians could pick them off because they are nowhere near the size of Ukraine.
There's another senior Russian politician today saying the aim is still to defeat Ukraine and park the Russian army along the borders of all these expansion states.
A new law went through here months back saying all able-bodied men are subject to immediate conscription in the case of the threat of invasion
 
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eastwoodsdustman

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  • Nov 13, 2022
  • #5,122
Flying Fokker said:
Maybe they will be buoyed by this article. Moscow pundit calls for army to prepare ‘full-scale war in Europe'
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They’re just sabre rattling again. They’re getting their arses handed to them in Ukraine and are trying to bluff and bluster their way through it so they dont lose any more face at home.
Anyone in Charge of their forces there will know they dont have the ability to invade any of the european backed or Nato countries.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Nov 13, 2022
  • #5,123
They’d last about five minutes against NATO proper.
 
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PVA

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  • Nov 13, 2022
  • #5,124
The US could destroy their army without losing a single man
 

Flying Fokker

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  • Nov 13, 2022
  • #5,125
tisza said:
They just don't get it.
NATO didn't "recruit" these countries - these countries wanted to join to preserve their newly won independence after 40 years of Soviet control. The thinking here now is that if we weren't part of NATO we would be next in line for Russian expansion. And on a country by country (except Poland) basis the Russians could pick them off because they are nowhere near the size of Ukraine.
There's another senior Russian politician today saying the aim is still to defeat Ukraine and park the Russian army along the borders of all these expansion states.
A new law went through here months back saying all able-bodied men are subject to immediate conscription in the case of the threat of invasion
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Just wondering? Which country do you refer to in the bottom paragraph?
 

Flying Fokker

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  • Nov 13, 2022
  • #5,126
Russia is so weak. They should never be allowed to build up any army. The leadership there just doesn’t get it.
 
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tisza

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  • Nov 13, 2022
  • #5,127
Flying Fokker said:
Just wondering? Which country do you refer to in the bottom paragraph?
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We're in Hungary
 
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Flying Fokker

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  • Nov 13, 2022
  • #5,128
tisza said:
We're in Hungary
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It’s a tough one. But I think Hungary would defend as robustly as Ukraine. Is there any evidence of a build up? I hear about Latvia having a large number of NATO forces there all the time.

NATO’s military presence in the east of the Alliance

An important component of NATO’s deterrence and defence posture is military presence in the eastern part of Alliance territory. In recent years, Allies have enhanced NATO’s forward presence by establishing multinational battlegroups in Bulgaria, Estonia, Hungary, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland...
www.nato.int
 

tisza

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  • Nov 13, 2022
  • #5,129
Flying Fokker said:
It’s a tough one. But I think Hungary would defend as robustly as Ukraine. Is there any evidence of a build up? I hear about Latvia having a large number of NATO forces there all the time.

NATO’s military presence in the east of the Alliance

An important component of NATO’s deterrence and defence posture is military presence in the eastern part of Alliance territory. In recent years, Allies have enhanced NATO’s forward presence by establishing multinational battlegroups in Bulgaria, Estonia, Hungary, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland...
www.nato.int
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Standing army is less than 25000. Miliary service stopped years back so training up reserves would be difficult.
There's no major build up atm (don't want to be provocative) and don't really have much kit to build up. They'd be completely reliant on NATO (and kieranp96!! ).
Announced big expansion and investment for the future even though they can't afford it.
Small NATO force here atm as Govt not particularly co-operative.
There aren't large numbers of NATO troops anyway apart from Germany. Likes of the Baltic states have a few thousand per country (was much less pre-Ukraine). Much like Ukraine in that NATO would have to give territory up in these Eastern European states before organising its response.
 
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Kieranp96

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  • Nov 13, 2022
  • #5,130
tisza said:
Standing army is less than 25000. Miliary service stopped years back so training up reserves would be difficult.
There's no major build up atm (don't want to be provocative) and don't really have much kit to build up. They'd be completely reliant on NATO (and kieranp96!! ).
Announced big expansion and investment for the future even though they can't afford it.
Small NATO force here atm as Govt not particularly co-operative.
There aren't large numbers of NATO troops anyway apart from Germany. Likes of the Baltic states have a few thousand per country (was much less pre-Ukraine). Much like Ukraine in that NATO would have to give territory up in these Eastern European states before organising its response.
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I would fight , or run back to the uk depends what the misses says .
 
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tisza

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  • Nov 14, 2022
  • #5,131
Kieranp96 said:
I would fight , or run back to the uk depends what the misses says .
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We can laugh now but back in March we sat down and discussed exactly these points. No-one here thought Ukraine would stop the Russians getting here.
 
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Kieranp96

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  • Nov 14, 2022
  • #5,132
tisza said:
We can laugh now but back in March we sat down and discussed exactly these points. No-one here thought Ukraine would stop the Russians getting here.
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I know we had similar conversations but we decided we would stay here until we had to leave but obviously if we couldn’t we would do something to help out.
 

Skybluefaz

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  • Nov 15, 2022
  • #5,133
 

baldy

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  • Nov 15, 2022
  • #5,134
Skybluefaz said:
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I saw a headline about this on Reddit with a link to a Reuters article but then,when you click on the articl,there’s no mention of the incident whatsoever
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 15, 2022
  • #5,135
Erm, this could be about to get pretty fucking serious.

'Defend every inch of NATO territory.'
 
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baldy

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  • Nov 15, 2022
  • #5,136
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
Erm, this could be about to get pretty fucking serious.

'Defend every inch of NATO territory.'
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NATO will probably just say ‘don’t you do that again you naughty boys’ & give them a warning
 

shmmeee

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  • Nov 15, 2022
  • #5,137
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
Erm, this could be about to get pretty fucking serious.

'Defend every inch of NATO territory.'
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Think the worst well see is increased weaponry to Ukraine and a clear message that if any more “mistakes” happen it’s A5 time.
 

covcity4life

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  • Nov 15, 2022
  • #5,138
Otis said:
By the same token I go on Mumsnet and never talk about mums.
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Just nets?
 
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Nov 15, 2022
  • #5,139
baldy said:
NATO will probably just say ‘don’t you do that again you naughty boys’ & give them a warning
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shmmeee said:
Think the worst well see is increased weaponry to Ukraine and a clear message that if any more “mistakes” happen it’s A5 time.
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You're both probably right lads, but in theory this could seriously be a Franz Ferdinand/Black Hand Gang/World War 1 moment.

What a bunch of fucking idiots.
 

shmmeee

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  • Nov 15, 2022
  • #5,140
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
You're both probably right lads, but in theory this could seriously be a Franz Ferdinand/Black Hand Gang/World War 1 moment.

What a bunch of fucking idiots.
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Hopefully we’ve moved on a bit from WW1, and it probably helps the Russians that they’ve been acting like fucking incompetent idiots for months which makes the idea it was a mistake more plausible
 

David O'Day

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  • Nov 15, 2022
  • #5,141
the Russians only sensible move now is to say "sorry we were aiming for targets in the Lyiv region, any official saber rattling from the Russians is only going to end with them taking a kicking"
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Nov 15, 2022
  • #5,142
shmmeee said:
Think the worst well see is increased weaponry to Ukraine and a clear message that if any more “mistakes” happen it’s A5 time.
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Are we back to the major, and I mean MAJOR, leafleting campaigns?
 

skybluetony176

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  • Nov 15, 2022
  • #5,143
Childish petulant behaviour from Russia. The whole wave of attacks on Ukraine today is just a hissy fit from criticism at the G20. Even India and China visibly distancing themselves from Russia whereas they were keen on being “independent” previously. Hopefully the projectile that landed in Poland was just a mistake or failure of equipment rather than a desperate move to drag others into it in the same way Sadam did by firing missiles at Israel.
 

David O'Day

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  • Nov 15, 2022
  • #5,144
Likely trigger article 4 and not 5 meaning much more Nato support for Ukraine but no actual nato boots on the ground
 

Tommo1993

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  • Nov 15, 2022
  • #5,145
Is it an easy mistake to aim for Lviv and miss by about 40 miles?
 
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