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USSR invades Ukraine. (17 Viewers)

  • Thread starter Alan Dugdales Moustache
  • Start date Feb 22, 2022
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Grendel

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  • May 13, 2022
  • #3,991
Sick Boy said:
I also saw reports of them raping men and then killing them. It’s hardly a war either, it’s an unprovoked invasion.
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Well ears often are unprovoked invasions and are always brutal
 
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shmmeee

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  • May 13, 2022
  • #3,992
Grendel said:
Well ears often are unprovoked invasions and are always brutal
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Grendel

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  • May 13, 2022
  • #3,993
shmmeee said:
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Grendel

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  • May 13, 2022
  • #3,994


 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • May 13, 2022
  • #3,995
stupot07 said:
Its not celebrating, it's just reporting news.

Those troops are illegally invading Ukraine, what Ukraine have done in the reported instance is legitimate warfare defending themselves from incoming military force. Unlike the Russians and all the war crimes they have and are committing - targeting civilian areas, kidnapping of people, rape of children and women, committing genocide, murdering civilians in cold blood that have surrendered and are bound and defenceless.

Whilst I dont celebrate anyone dying, those 1000 deaths are all on Putin.

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Yep happy to agree with that too they are completely on his head
 
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Flying Fokker

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  • May 16, 2022
  • #3,996

Modern warfare. I’d hate to be on the ground. Russia is being pasted by the West.
 

Alan Dugdales Moustache

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  • May 16, 2022
  • #3,997
skybluetony176 said:
Have we actually said aid in terms of British boots on the ground? I haven’t read the details yet but from the headline I took it to mean military aid in the same vain of the aid we’ve given to Ukraine. Which if I’ve gotten that that right I’ll give Boris some credit for it. The nuclear deterrent is currently looking pretty useless against Putins aggression towards it’s neighbours. The thought of another ground invasion against a motivated and well equipped army on the other hand is probably the best deterrent against Putin.
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I think we have sent a few extra troops to one of Baltic States and we are currently engaged in military exercises within Finland. Saw a documentary the other day about the Finnish military. It may be a small country population wise but it has a very well equipped armed forces and it seems the entire male population has to go through military training not just when they are around 18 but at intervals throughout their adult life.
If Russia attempt to invade Finland they'll get a very big bloody nose. Not for the first time .
 
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Sbarcher

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  • May 16, 2022
  • #3,998
Be under no illusions, the SAS are in Ukraine and have been for some time. Should qualify with allegedly.!
 
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Otis

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  • May 16, 2022
  • #3,999
Sbarcher said:
Be under no illusions, the SAS are in Ukraine and have been for some time. Should qualify with allegedly.!
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PVA

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  • May 16, 2022
  • #4,000
Big climb down from Putin


 
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David O'Day

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  • May 16, 2022
  • #4,001
PVA said:
Big climb down from Putin


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Big "I never fancied her anyway" energy from Vlad there
 
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Grendel

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  • May 16, 2022
  • #4,002
David O'Day said:
Big "I never fancied her anyway" energy from Vlad there
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Of course Finland were never joining nato David
 
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Flying Fokker

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  • May 16, 2022
  • #4,003
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
I think we have sent a few extra troops to one of Baltic States and we are currently engaged in military exercises within Finland. Saw a documentary the other day about the Finnish military. It may be a small country population wise but it has a very well equipped armed forces and it seems the entire male population has to go through military training not just when they are around 18 but at intervals throughout their adult life.
If Russia attempt to invade Finland they'll get a very big bloody nose. Not for the first time .
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I spoke to someone out in Lithuania today. There are American soldiers all over the place.
 

Otis

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  • May 16, 2022
  • #4,004
Flying Fokker said:
I spoke to someone out in Lithuania today. There are American soldiers all over the place.
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Oh great. More broken marriages and a flood of babies and abortions in the next 9-12 months..
 
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PVA

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  • May 16, 2022
  • #4,005
David O'Day said:
Big "I never fancied her anyway" energy from Vlad there
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The whole war has been like that.
 

LastGarrison

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  • May 16, 2022
  • #4,006
Flying Fokker said:
I spoke to someone out in Lithuania today. There are American soldiers all over the place.
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There always have been in the Baltic region though but obviously with the pre-planned exercises there will be a lot more.

I remember going down for breakfast in the Radisson Blu in Tallinn and there was quite a few Yank soldiers in uniform queuing up for the omelette station!
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • May 16, 2022
  • #4,007
David O'Day said:
Big "I never fancied her anyway" energy from Vlad there
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Not unexpected IMO. He game was to instil fear in countries to not join. But this shows once they ignore him he knows he can't attack NATO conventionally so will back down. I think it also reduces the prospect of his willingness to 'push the button' and countries will see that he shys away from shows of force, so expect a more hardline stance against him in the future.

Surely it can only be a matter of time before even his own people will start to question just how good a leader he actually is.
 
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Evo1883

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  • May 17, 2022
  • #4,008
Unfortunately the battle for mariupol is over

 
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CCFCSteve

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  • May 17, 2022
  • #4,009
Evo1883 said:
Unfortunately the battle for mariupol is over

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Unbelievable and heroic effort.
 
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David O'Day

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  • May 17, 2022
  • #4,010
CCFCSteve said:
Unbelievable and heroic effort.
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Problem for Russia is when Ukraine gets around to it the Russians will never hold the city.
 
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Otis

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  • May 17, 2022
  • #4,011
David O'Day said:
Problem for Russia is when Ukraine gets around to it the Russians will never hold the city.
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And look how much this has set Russia back and how they haven't been able to push forwards due to getting bogged down.

This is a victory for Ukraine, even if Russia have now taken the city. It's delayed them, depleted them and now, like DoD has said, Ukraine will now be able to counterattack.
 
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David O'Day

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  • May 17, 2022
  • #4,012
Otis said:
And look how much this has set Russia back and how they haven't been able to push forwards due to getting bogged down.

This is a victory for Ukraine, even if Russia have now taken the city. It's delayed them, depleted them and now, like DoD has said, Ukraine will now be able to counterattack.
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It allows Ukraine to do what they and the western equipment does best and destroy Russian units in open ground on the counterattack.

The reputation of the Russian army has been destroyed in this war. No one else is really going t be scared of them.

Look at Finland and Sweden one Turkey has got their concessions.
 

jimmyhillsfanclub

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  • May 18, 2022
  • #4,013
A little bit more of this sort of thing & Putin may start to see more & more civil unrest.

Putin toppled from within is how this war ends.

Retired colonel speaks out on Russian TV

Mikhail Khodarenok gives a rare insight saying the military operation in Ukraine can only get worse.
www.bbc.co.uk
 
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Otis

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  • May 18, 2022
  • #4,014
Dr. Mike Martin's latest take.

 
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AOM

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  • May 18, 2022
  • #4,015
jimmyhillsfanclub said:
A little bit more of this sort of thing & Putin may start to see more & more civil unrest.

Putin toppled from within is how this war ends.

Retired colonel speaks out on Russian TV

Mikhail Khodarenok gives a rare insight saying the military operation in Ukraine can only get worse.
www.bbc.co.uk
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The other people in that TV discussion

 
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Alan Dugdales Moustache

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  • May 20, 2022
  • #4,016
Otis said:
Oh great. More broken marriages and a flood of babies and abortions in the next 9-12 months..
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But lots of chocolate on the plus side.
 

Alan Dugdales Moustache

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  • May 20, 2022
  • #4,017
David O'Day said:
It allows Ukraine to do what they and the western equipment does best and destroy Russian units in open ground on the counterattack.

The reputation of the Russian army has been destroyed in this war. No one else is really going t be scared of them.

Look at Finland and Sweden one Turkey has got their concessions.
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You don't need to be scared of the Russian army but you do need to be scared of a nuclear bomb.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • May 20, 2022
  • #4,018
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
You don't need to be scared of the Russian army but you do need to be scared of a nuclear bomb.
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He can give the order but if people refuse to follow it is meaningless. Do people lower down the command chain agree that the world should be ended because they can’t erase Ukraine? I don’t think many do.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • May 20, 2022
  • #4,019
Brighton Sky Blue said:
He can give the order but if people refuse to follow it is meaningless. Do people lower down the command chain agree that the world should be ended because they can’t erase Ukraine? I don’t think many do.
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The only kind of conscientious objecting that I feel is honourable is where the consequence is stark. Likely some would refuse and be sent to a prison camp but they’ll be plenty that will
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • May 20, 2022
  • #4,020
Sky Blue Pete said:
The only kind of conscientious objecting that I feel is honourable is where the consequence is stark. Likely some would refuse and be sent to a prison camp but they’ll be plenty that will
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It’s different when your choice is to go to prison or to trigger the end of the world. There is a third choice too, to overthrow the man making the order-which might be creeping closer.
 
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Grendel

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  • May 20, 2022
  • #4,021
Sky Blue Pete said:
The only kind of conscientious objecting that I feel is honourable is where the consequence is stark. Likely some would refuse and be sent to a prison camp but they’ll be plenty that will
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I can’t see Sergei Labarov refusing
 

AOM

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  • May 20, 2022
  • #4,022
Thought this was interesting. Especially with regards to Putin's health. I don't know how reliable Christopher Steele is though

 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • May 20, 2022
  • #4,023
Grendel said:
I can’t see Sergei Labarov refusing
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Nor me
 
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Kieranp96

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  • May 20, 2022
  • #4,024
Seems Russia are gaining momentum in the east starting to take lots of villages and nearly encircled 8k Ukrainian troops, fingers crossed they get the reinforcements to push them back.

I’m not a war expert or anything but surely the fight is in the east so you should be moving troops there from Kyiv or something not all but some before the Russians get a foothold and then start pushing west as a army (something they have yet to do as one.
 
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SBT

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  • May 20, 2022
  • #4,025
AOM said:
Thought this was interesting. Especially with regards to Putin's health. I don't know how reliable Christopher Steele is though
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Not especially reliable....

The Steele dossier: A reckoning

When it came to light in January 2017, just days before Donald Trump took office, the so-called Steele dossier landed like a bombshell and sent shockwaves around the world with its salacious allegations about Trump and his supposed ties to Russia.
edition.cnn.com
 
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