Brighton Sky Blue
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Qualifying to be a CCFC fan is a tall order these days.
Anyway, negotiations are clearly still ongoing, so let's hope that both sides can move forward together with something that's mutually beneficial.
One day I'd love to go back to only worrying about the football and not trying to understand contract disputes, legal cases and EU complaints.
Problem is we have this just about every year now, it's groundhog day season after season.Anyway, negotiations are clearly still ongoing, so let's hope that both sides can move forward together with something that's mutually beneficial.
One day I'd love to go back to only worrying about the football and not trying to understand contract disputes, legal cases and EU complaints.
That’s the plan they outlined to us. Long term Ricoh deal while a new stadium is built. Just nothing concrete and so very easy to be cynicalProblem is we have this just about every year now, it's groundhog day season after season.
It'd be far better if they actually tried to sort out some proper certainty, rather than all this instability that rocks and rolls.
Given they've been outlining new stadium since Northampton, it'd be entirely wrong *not* to be cynical without something concrete.That’s.
That’s the plan they outlined to us. Long term Ricoh deal while a new stadium is built. Just nothing concrete and so very easy to be cynical
Given they've been outlining new stadium since Northampton, it'd be entirely wrong *not* to be cynical without something concrete.
Talk is cheap.
So have many others in the past, and I'm sure many will in the future.Exactly. And we did make that point (and have continued to do so).
Hold on, you are saying that if SISU win it may be down to a miscarriage of justice? Imagine if people were saying that they lost because of miscarriage of justice.
Didn't Wasps buy a business already embroiled in legal action, did they do much due diligence or just snap the hand of the council off? Maybe that's why it was a good deal as it was tainted with legal shite.
Again, all of Wasps / The Ricoh struggling seems to be pinned on this legal action and not how they have been running it.
People on here are effectively saying it's a miscarriage of justice and the club has been shafted by those nasty Wasps and councillors. It's pretty much the entire basis of these threads. What's the current score in the courts regarding the stadium situation? How damning were the judges in those cases of SISU? If SISU all of a sudden won this one I'm sure you'd be one of the first to say how the previous judgements were a travesty. If the council appealed it'll be why don't they just accept they were in the wrong and stop all this. But if they lose and they somehow find another angle to take it on such as the civil courts you'll be rooting for them against the mean nasty council and Wasps.
If there wasn't mistakes made in the legal profession surely after JR1 everyone on here should have said "OK, clearly nothing to see here. Time to move on" But instead it's support the appeal, JR2, that appeal, then the EU investigation..... Basically keep on going until we get the decision we want, then it should all end. A bit like having a game of Wembley and you're winning 5-0 then the ball hits the other person in the face, goes in and says last goal was the winner and everyone should go home now.
I'm not saying it would necessarily be a miscarriage of justice but why do you think some lawyers get to charge a fortune compared to others? Because they take cases that should be lost and win them. Not because it's the correct judgement or provides justice but because they find loopholes and minor errors to invalidate things.
So have many others in the past, and I'm sure many will in the future.
The only thing we can cling to is the infinite monkeys may get an infinite number of bricks, and they might erect a stadium seemingly unknowingly one day, and we can all thank the Lords SISU.
Is that the one where someone involved complained that they'd all signed confidentiality agreements and then all of a sudden his companies were getting phone calls about him being involved in taking us over?I do think that might be the one. Im sure they group had asked not to be mentioned publicly so of course our friendly local rag revealed them
What new action could SISU bring if the EU complaint fails? Aren't we well past the deadline for that?The point you are studiously ignoring is that “the legals” isn’t just the EU complaint but the promise to halt further attempts to reverse the sale of the Ricoh.
Is that the one where someone involved complained that they'd all signed confidentiality agreements and then all of a sudden his companies were getting phone calls about him being involved in taking us over?
There's a big difference between saying what the council and Wasps did was wrong and saying they broke the law. SISU could legally move us to Sunderland but I'm sure most people on here would view that as a disgrace and wouldn't just passively accept it.People on here are effectively saying it's a miscarriage of justice and the club has been shafted by those nasty Wasps and councillors. It's pretty much the entire basis of these threads. What's the current score in the courts regarding the stadium situation? How damning were the judges in those cases of SISU?
Worth remembering, as a lot of people seem to miss this point, the EU investigation is not a rerun of the judicial reviews. It will be undertaken on the basis that UK law has been correctly applied. They will instead be looking at how it stacks up with EU law and if they find a breach of EU law they will then look to identify where UK law is not consistent with EU law.If there wasn't mistakes made in the legal profession surely after JR1 everyone on here should have said "OK, clearly nothing to see here. Time to move on" But instead it's support the appeal, JR2, that appeal, then the EU investigation.
Maybe it's the ideal time? Value at its lowest. Covid lockdown won't last forever...I'm not sure how attractive a stadium with two sports clubs playing behind closed doors and unable to put on gigs is at the moment to be honest, (I know outdoor gigs got the nod yesterday but with social distancing that may mean they're not viable at the Ricoh).
The covid situation has added a whole other level of uncertainty to this situation.
Maybe it's the ideal time? Value at its lowest. Covid lockdown won't last forever...
Problem is we have this just about every year now, it's groundhog day season after season.
The year is 2030. Brexit is long done and dusted...Covid-19 is a distant memory...Cov are playing at the Ricoh/Sisudrome....Wasps are bust/still bumbling along but not in Cov....Carl Baker is our manager (with Doyle, McSheffrey and George Thomas as his backroom team).
What the hell do we talk about then?
The year is 2030. Brexit is long done and dusted...Covid-19 is a distant memory...Cov are playing at the Ricoh/Sisudrome....Wasps are bust/still bumbling along but not in Cov....Carl Baker is our manager (with Doyle, McSheffrey and George Thomas as his backroom team).
What the hell do we talk about then?
Serious question about the Ricoh, do people enjoy visiting and the experience in general? I would enjoy it more if the stand behind the goal reopened but it ain't what Highfield road was in the sense that you identify it with CCFC?
In all honesty, no. As Tommo said, I can remember probably 5 games with a decent atmosphere. I could cycle to it quicker than I could get public transport and I live 24 miles away. Basically means I have to drive and even if we weren't the pubs around it are limited (being generous) non-existent (realistic). I couldn't be more behind the idea that we have to play in the city that we take our name from, but the St Andrews experience reminded me what going to the football should feel like, it's just a bit shit we won't ever get that at the Ricoh.Serious question about the Ricoh, do people enjoy visiting and the experience in general? I would enjoy it more if the stand behind the goal reopened but it ain't what Highfield road was in the sense that you identify it with CCFC?
It's a great stadium, but definitely needs a better choice of drinking holes close by... Say on the site of the Working Mans Club over the road for example, or re-development of the industrial estateSerious question about the Ricoh, do people enjoy visiting and the experience in general? I would enjoy it more if the stand behind the goal reopened but it ain't what Highfield road was in the sense that you identify it with CCFC?
For comparison, from Stratford it's 2 hours 21 minutes and £15.20On the train station, 12th September is showing a running service from Leamington to Ricoh which fit nicely with match times. £7.65 return
1 hour 44 via Leam. Not great.For comparison, from Stratford it's 2 hours 21 minutes and £15.20
For comparison, from Stratford it's 2 hours 21 minutes and £15.20
If we did get to own the stadium I would like to see one of the stands behind the goals bulldozed and then replaced with a new safe standing terrace similar capacity to the old West Terrace and moved closer to the pitch, this would break up the boring bowl design and give the stadium a bit of uniquenessSerious question about the Ricoh, do people enjoy visiting and the experience in general? I would enjoy it more if the stand behind the goal reopened but it ain't what Highfield road was in the sense that you identify it with CCFC?
Could probably count the amount of rocking atmospheres the Ricoh has had on one hand.
Exactly thisRighto, I misunderstood you. Giving up any right to future legal action gives the club no means to defend itself if there are future genuine reasons which are nothing to do with ownership and so it could give Wasps carte blanche to be unreasonable with impunity. Both clubs need CCFC to return and it seems more that Wasps are denying themselves an income rather than obstinacy on our part, even with the blinkers off. Perhaps they could be specific on no more legal action relating to ownership?
The list is endless and probably worth a new thread to itself: 'The good old days at St Andrews' and 'What we did when we didn't go to Sixfields' and 'Burge available again on a free. So worth a Punt?' and 'If Sky Blue Bloody Robins had stayed would we still be in the Premier League?' and 'Is our Dream management team enough to get us promotion to the EFL?The year is 2030. Brexit is long done and dusted...Covid-19 is a distant memory...Cov are playing at the Ricoh/Sisudrome....Wasps are bust/still bumbling along but not in Cov....Carl Baker is our manager (with Doyle, McSheffrey and George Thomas as his backroom team).
What the hell do we talk about then?
The year is 2030. Brexit is long done and dusted...Covid-19 is a distant memory...Cov are playing at the Ricoh/Sisudrome....Wasps are bust/still bumbling along but not in Cov....Carl Baker is our manager (with Doyle, McSheffrey and George Thomas as his backroom team).
What the hell do we talk about then?
It's a great stadium, but definitely needs a better choice of drinking holes close by... Say on the site of the Working Mans Club over the road for example, or re-development of the industrial estate
Throw in better public transport and get the Train Station open, and with success on he pitch, more and more people will turn up generating a better atmosphere...
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