Brighton Sky Blue
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We could've brought in the Bees to run rings around the council.
Nah, don't agree there. If CRFC were using the Ricoh as well as us then I don't think anyone would mind. Not sure why it's so difficult to grasp for some.
What a pile of dross.
If CRFC had brought the Ricoh the same people would still be here shouting fucking egg chasers stole our ground.
Get it through your thick skulls Sisu didn't want it, if it wasn't for free.
couldn't even afford the 2.7 million for half a share.
True. But Northampton Saints weren't always the draw they are to the wealthy village dwellers of Northants and the surrounding areas. I remember pre-professionalism when their ground was worse than Northampton Town's County Ground and they were attracting a couple of thousand. When the game turned pro along came the millionaire chairman with big money contracts for top players, stadium expansion and corporate boxes offering a nice day out for the chaps and their fanbase expanded hugely.
I think they did want it. But not when it was an asset owned by CCFC Ltd. In 2008 they thought they had transferred the option to purchase to Sky Blue Sports and Leisure. So then they could run CCFC Ltd into the ground with the loss making move to Northants whist distressing ACL and then still retain their option to purchase.
In the end it proved to be more complicated than that and when it became apparent that the option was still resident in a company that was purposely debt laden there was no way they could afford to unwrap the the asset from the Creditor liabilities.
But what is for sure , their intention was that CCFC would never own the Ricoh
There are 2 differing reasons in this case.
Sisu gave them away at Sixfields to try and deceive CCFC fans into thinking that people were attending in numbers.
Evidently Northampton schools etc were targeted so it was a short term action.
I'm not clear whether they are doing a similar thing now back at the Ricoh, so in my mind that's poor marketing.
Wasps are building a fan base, in Coventry/Warwickshire area and targeting that area so it is for the long term.
I'm am very aware that Wasps are doing this so in my eyes it is good marketing.
Surely you can see this ?
as for the last point, you really aren't worth the effort, complete utter nonsense.
Reasons in your opinion you mean? How do you know ccfc weren't building a fan base? How do you know wasps aren't shitting it with low numbers? You don't, it's the same.
It's just how it can be twisted i guess
Really....?
Look at the facts....
SISU moved CCFC for their financial gain, Wasps owners have moved Wasps for their financial gain
SISU showed scant regard for their fan base. Wasps owners have shown just as much regard for their fan base.
You can dress it up however you like... but that is the crux of it.
If you are going to call it...then at least call it consistently.
Reasons in your opinion you mean? How do you know ccfc weren't building a fan base? How do you know wasps aren't shitting it with low numbers? You don't, it's the same.
It's just how it can be twisted i guess
Oh so it was made up anyway!I think I made this point the other day. There were no free tickets given out to locals in Northampton schools to my knowledge (both my two kids schools, or at any others - I am pretty sure that it would have been brought to my attention, as I don't hide the fact that I am a Cov fan). Our club playing at Sixfields was a non story in the media locally once the the season started.
The Saints, Cobblers and County Cricket CLub do go round the schools though, and sponsor other local initiatives.
It never happened, so yes - made up. The people of Northampton don't care about Coventry as a place, not just the football club.Oh so it was made up anyway!
Reasons in your opinion you mean? How do you know ccfc weren't building a fan base? How do you know wasps aren't shitting it with low numbers? You don't, it's the same.
It's just how it can be twisted i guess
I didn't say there were shitting it, just tat it could be spun either way.how is the CCFC Fan Base coming along by the way? I don't know if Wasps are shitting it, as you put it, but I don't think they can lose on the deal they got for the shares. I think it is obvious to a blind man that they are doing a better job at wooing support and building relationships with the people that matter - potential fans and the city generally - than SISU ever did.
I didn't say there were shitting it, just tat it could be spun either way.
I'll let you know about the ccfc fan base in a few months, will pm you on the wasps forumwon't be hard to find people getting hard over attendances
Really....?
Look at the facts....
SISU moved CCFC for their financial gain, Wasps owners have moved Wasps for their financial gain
SISU showed scant regard for their fan base. Wasps owners have shown just as much regard for their fan base.
You can dress it up however you like... but that is the crux of it.
If you are going to call it...then at least call it consistently.
South Warwickshire has Northampton, North Warwickshire has Leicester. Franchise Wasps have to gamble on bribing the city of Coventry to turn up.
No one has ever been able to make a reasoned and backed up argument how the move to northampton would ever lead to the betterment of ccfc. Plenty of soundbites and comments about the long term and needing the revenue but nothing that actually made any sense whatsoever if you looked at it at all closely.
Look at the damage it's none, no assets, a terrible squad, abysmal crowds, no realistic chance to own our own stadium, a fanbase that loath the owners and hate each other, crappy sponsorship, an awful retail store, no ability to handle big game ticket sales anymore, then there is millions in lost revenue while we were away. Opps forgot the administrations, the ruining of last season, the likely relegation to league 2 this season.
You can add the breaking of the lease that has allowed another sports franchise to buy our home stadium, possibly the most damaging consequence of all.
Reasons in your opinion you mean? How do you know ccfc weren't building a fan base? How do you know wasps aren't shitting it with low numbers? You don't, it's the same.
It's just how it can be twisted i guess
Why anyone takes an old ham like Italia seriously beats me.
Oh so it was made up anyway!
So you believe this post because it suits you and not mine because it don't ?
There were several posts saying free tickets in Northampton (not mine).
No reason to believe they were lying.
Fair do's Fred.
I hate the fact I want a team to desperately fail, one I didn't have any feelings for until a few weeks ago, but I really want Wasps to fall flat on their faces, and I want that bitch Lucas to answer for it.
I'am not a Wasps fan or a Rugby fan.I do however understand the marketing effort that is being put into making the Ricoh work for the wasps.
They appear to be making a tremendous effort to make the match day experience as enjoyable as possible.
The most annoying thing is that had sisu been open and above board it could and should have been CCFC looking forward to the financial gains.
It's easy to promise the world when you own the company that can deliver the changes.
Here's a quick question.... a simple marketing and business one.
Would you pay money to market a service or product that you do not control or make not one penny from?
It will be a good learning experience for you to find out for yourself.That will involve you going to theirWhat are they doing to make the experience enjoyable?
What are they doing to make the experience enjoyable?
You can add the breaking of the lease that has allowed another sports franchise to buy our home stadium, possibly the most damaging consequence of all.
It will be a good learning experience for you to find out for yourself.That will involve you going to their
first match at the Ricoh,You will then be able to report back.
You need to obtain their glossy brochure.
It comes with your ticket.
It will be a good learning experience for you to find out for yourself.That will involve you going to their
first match at the Ricoh,You will then be able to report back.
Leave? Liquidate the club you mean - great fucking idea Einstein.
So you don't know then - just making up anti CCFC shite as usual. Fair enough .
Is London Irish the first game, with them giving away thousands? I don't doubt they will. maybe we should all get up to ccfc games and get behind the team. That's players, not owners.They will get more for London Irish than City will get for Fleetwood. That is where we are. Second fiddle to a rugby club. Pathetic. Pity we can't sack our owners.
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