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HadjiChippo

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  • Jun 29, 2024
  • #3,046
Evo1883 said:
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They don’t make defenders like that anymore
 
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Sky_Blue_Daz

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  • Jun 29, 2024
  • #3,047
Clive Tyldesley should spend the rest of the game telling us all the gossip he’s heard over the years
 
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Tommo1993

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  • Jun 29, 2024
  • #3,048
Figo now still walks into all of these teams
 
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hill83

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  • Jun 29, 2024
  • #3,049
Tommo1993 said:
Figo now still walks into all of these teams
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Literally
 
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HadjiChippo

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  • Jun 29, 2024
  • #3,050
Fullkrug several yards offside and the linesman still waits for the run and shot. Sod that, get your flag up and get the game going again
 

Frostie

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  • Jun 29, 2024
  • #3,051
Brighton Sky Blue said:
It might be what they expect but a few refs in the PL did have the courage to stick with their original decision.
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True, but incredibly rare & getting even rarer. There were 62 on field reviews in the PL last season. I think there were only 3 where they rejected the VAR & stuck with their original decision.
 
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Ashdown

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  • Jun 29, 2024
  • #3,052
VAR complete wank and a massive fiddle once again , disgusting
 

HadjiChippo

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  • Jun 29, 2024
  • #3,053
This offside rule has to change, the decision below is technically right with modern technology but for all intents and purposes this is two players standing side by side. Doesn’t seem in the spirit of the game to rule goals out for a boot size up.

 
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TomRad85

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  • Jun 29, 2024
  • #3,054
Football with VAR is almost a different game at times. I find it almost unwatchable tbh.

Sent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk
 
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hill83

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  • Jun 29, 2024
  • #3,055
HadjiChippo said:
This offside rule has to change, the decision below is technically right with modern technology but for all intents and purposes this is two players standing side by side. Doesn’t seem in the spirit of the game to rule goals out for a boot size up.

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Miles off
 
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HadjiChippo

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  • Jun 29, 2024
  • #3,056
How are the offsides taking so long with the English VAR team but we’ve seen split second decisions being given like the ones against Lukaku that were razor thin
 
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SIR ERNIE

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  • Jun 29, 2024
  • #3,057
hill83 said:
Spent 20 minutes listening to that ref bird sat under the stairs waffling on like it’s a fucking science lesson
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Hahaha so true, the other night she proudly confirmed that 'this is how we now forensically analyse modern football'
 

hill83

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  • Jun 29, 2024
  • #3,058
SIR ERNIE said:
Hahaha so true, the other night she proudly confirmed that 'this is how we now forensically analyse modern football'
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It’s what the game is all about. Time to nip to the concourse for a bev every time there’s a potential goal.
 

hill83

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  • Jun 29, 2024
  • #3,059
TOE

OUTSIDE THE SILHOUETTE

PROXIMITY IS NO LONGER A FACTOR

Love all this
 
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PUSB-We_are_going_up

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  • Jun 29, 2024
  • #3,060
Offside should be a clear advantage gained rather than a toe, toenail, hair or Kelly’s erection
 

hill83

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  • Jun 29, 2024
  • #3,061
Fair play to her to be fair. She explains it well but it’s boring as fuck
 

PUSB-We_are_going_up

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  • Jun 29, 2024
  • #3,062
hope its not another Southgate snoozefest tomorrow but then again thats heavily wishful thinking
 
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Terry_dactyl

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  • Jun 29, 2024
  • #3,063
hill83 said:
Fair play to her to be fair. She explains it well but it’s boring as fuck
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I like her. Seems like she doesn’t agree with the laws either, just explains them really well.

The problem with the offside VAR decisions is there’s no real arguing with it. Having said that, am I right in thinking the VAR used in the Euros is different/better than the one did for us against Utd?
 
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hill83

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  • Jun 29, 2024
  • #3,064
Terry_dactyl said:
I like her. Seems like she doesn’t agree with the laws either, just explains them really well.

The problem with the offside VAR decisions is there’s no real arguing with it. Having said that, am I right in thinking the VAR used in the Euros is different/better than the one did for us against Utd?
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“Don’t ask me for my opinion or I might get fired” summed her opinion up instantly.
 
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Frostie

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  • Jun 29, 2024
  • #3,065
Terry_dactyl said:
I like her. Seems like she doesn’t agree with the laws either, just explains them really well.

The problem with the offside VAR decisions is there’s no real arguing with it. Having said that, am I right in thinking the VAR used in the Euros is different/better than the one did for us against Utd?
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Yes. They are using Semi Automated VAR, i.e. not relying on someone just having a guess when a ball is kicked & where to draw a line whilst using a 50fps camera.
 
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Terry_dactyl

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  • Jun 29, 2024
  • #3,066
Frostie said:
Yes. They are using Semi Automated VAR, i.e. not relying on someone just having a guess when a ball is kicked & where to draw a line whilst using a 50fps camera.
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Brilliant. So we’ve been using shite tech up until this point?

Any way of using it retrospectively? I dunno, just off the top of my head, in like an FA Cup semi-final or something, to see if a decision was correct?
 
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David O'Day

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  • Jun 29, 2024
  • #3,067
Terry_dactyl said:
Brilliant. So we’ve been using shite tech up until this point?

Any way of using it retrospectively? I dunno, just off the top of my head, in like an FA Cup semi-final or something, to see if a decision was correct?
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Yes, we have been using the shite lines on a picture, and they don't.

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Liquid Gold

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  • Jun 29, 2024
  • #3,068
It’s shit. Should be offside but the decision was made quickly so fuck it. Don’t mind it if it’s quick
 

Frostie

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  • Jun 29, 2024
  • #3,069
Terry_dactyl said:
Brilliant. So we’ve been using shite tech up until this point?

Any way of using it retrospectively? I dunno, just off the top of my head, in like an FA Cup semi-final or something, to see if a decision was correct?
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Or, you know, just use the same old system that's worked perfectly fine for a hundred years.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jun 29, 2024
  • #3,070
Frostie said:
Or, you know, just use the same old system that's worked perfectly fine for a hundred years.
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One of the subs with a hangover waving a bib around?
 
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Terry_dactyl

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  • Jun 29, 2024
  • #3,071
Frostie said:
Or, you know, just use the same old system that's worked perfectly fine for a hundred years.
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What?!?! But then we’d be arguing about decisions…oh, hang on.
 
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wingy

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  • Jun 29, 2024
  • #3,072
Brighton Sky Blue said:
One of the subs with a hangover waving a bib around?
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Just get British officials in to take 5 time's as long as their counterparts to reach a decision!!
 
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alexccfc99

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  • Jun 30, 2024
  • #3,073
I really don't know how we have managed it as we realistically scraped through as group winners and I do not mean to be disrespectful to any of the other sides and based on so far there is nothing to suggest we will even win later

But on paper, England really should be looking at getting to at least another semi final - Time to step the fuck up
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jun 30, 2024
  • #3,074
Frostie said:
Or, you know, just use the same old system that's worked perfectly fine for a hundred years.
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Everyone moaned that assistants made mistakes so we found a system to make the decisions and now everyone moans that it as too close to give offside
Just bananas
 
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alexccfc99

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  • Jun 30, 2024
  • #3,075
Sky Blue Pete said:
Everyone moaned that assistants made mistakes so we found a system to make the decisions and now everyone moans that it as too close to give offside
Just bananas
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I have said it all along my problem isn't with VAR it is with the inept people using it as well as the rules introduced - For clear and obvious errors no one would have an issue with it, for those who watched the L2 play off final last month, where a Crewe player made the most obvious dive and actually managed to dupe the referee into awarding a penalty, VAR stepped in and corrected it and that was great because if Crewe had been given that penalty it would have been an absolute travesty! If VAR was used like that then you literally cannot argue against it

It's when you start judging people offside for the length of a gnats chaff or with parts of the body you can't even score with when you start to get your problems - That isn't VAR's fault it's down to the lawmakers

Then again, is it any wonder we are here yet again discussing how shit VAR is following a game English officials have been in charge of it? For a major country in the game and the founding fathers of football our officials are embarrassingly shite and not fit for purpose, they must be a complete laughing stock
 
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Otis

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  • Jun 30, 2024
  • #3,076
alexccfc99 said:
I have said it all along my problem isn't with VAR it is with the inept people using it as well as the rules introduced - For clear and obvious errors no one would have an issue with it, for those who watched the L2 play off final last month, where a Crewe player made the most obvious dive and actually managed to dupe the referee into awarding a penalty, VAR stepped in and corrected it and that was great because if Crewe had been given that penalty it would have been an absolute travesty! If VAR was used like that then you literally cannot argue against it

It's when you start judging people offside for the length of a gnats chaff or with parts of the body you can't even score with when you start to get your problems - That isn't VAR's fault it's down to the lawmakers

Then again, is it any wonder we are here yet again discussing how shit VAR is following a game English officials have been in charge of it? For a major country in the game and the founding fathers of football our officials are embarrassingly shite and not fit for purpose, they must be a complete laughing stock
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Yup, agree.

Nothing wrong with the VAR system at all, if they used it properly.

When it was brought in, it wasn't brought in to see if a toenail stuck out

If they used it for the clear and obvious only, if would work so much better.

They need to still be quicker with it though. Nothing should be taking two mins to view.

I am glad the offside rule is changing. That will really help.

They need to change the ridiculous handball laws too. First and foremost in the thinking has to be whether or not it was accidental and to stop saying an arm isn't in a natural position when it clearly is

VAR can work. It's just not working at the moment and is a bit of a disaster, because of the way they implement and interpret things.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jun 30, 2024
  • #3,077
alexccfc99 said:
I have said it all along my problem isn't with VAR it is with the inept people using it as well as the rules introduced - For clear and obvious errors no one would have an issue with it, for those who watched the L2 play off final last month, where a Crewe player made the most obvious dive and actually managed to dupe the referee into awarding a penalty, VAR stepped in and corrected it and that was great because if Crewe had been given that penalty it would have been an absolute travesty! If VAR was used like that then you literally cannot argue against it

It's when you start judging people offside for the length of a gnats chaff or with parts of the body you can't even score with when you start to get your problems - That isn't VAR's fault it's down to the lawmakers

Then again, is it any wonder we are here yet again discussing how shit VAR is following a game English officials have been in charge of it? For a major country in the game and the founding fathers of football our officials are embarrassingly shite and not fit for purpose, they must be a complete laughing stock
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Oliver was spectacular yesterday based on all metrics
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jun 30, 2024
  • #3,078
Otis said:
Yup, agree.

Nothing wrong with the VAR system at all, if they used it properly.

When it was brought in, it wasn't brought in to see if a toenail stuck out

If they used it for the clear and obvious only, if would work so much better.

They need to still be quicker with it though. Nothing should be taking two mins to view.

I am glad the offside rule is changing. That will really help.

They need to change the ridiculous handball laws too. First and foremost in the thinking has to be whether or not it was accidental and to stop saying an arm isn't in a natural position when it clearly is

VAR can work. It's just not working at the moment and is a bit of a disaster, because of the way they implement and interpret things.
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Did you not see the defender lift his arm to attempt to stop the cross
I’ll ask another, what happens if that’s not given in the studio and shearer and lineker and Twitter
I think exactly the same just opposite
 

Otis

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  • Jun 30, 2024
  • #3,079
Sky Blue Pete said:
Did you not see the defender lift his arm to attempt to stop the cross
I’ll ask another, what happens if that’s not given in the studio and shearer and lineker and Twitter
I think exactly the same just opposite
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Only just saw the Anderson one for Denmark and thought it was very, very harsh

Under the current rules, obviously a pen. But it shouldn't be. I really don't see that he was trying to make himself bigger in order to stop the cross.

Seemed very harsh.
 
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Frostie

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  • Jun 30, 2024
  • #3,080
alexccfc99 said:
I have said it all along my problem isn't with VAR it is with the inept people using it as well as the rules introduced - For clear and obvious errors no one would have an issue with it, for those who watched the L2 play off final last month, where a Crewe player made the most obvious dive and actually managed to dupe the referee into awarding a penalty, VAR stepped in and corrected it and that was great because if Crewe had been given that penalty it would have been an absolute travesty! If VAR was used like that then you literally cannot argue against it
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We didn't have to completely destroy the whole spirit of the game for that though

In the L2 Playoff, it was once again a ref being condemned for a wrong decision, not a single mention of a player intentionally cheating to con him. That should be where the focus is, with strict punishments for cheating dealt retrospectively. Attitudes would then change. Tackle the problem not the symptom.

alexccfc99 said:
Then again, is it any wonder we are here yet again discussing how shit VAR is following a game English officials have been in charge of it? For a major country in the game and the founding fathers of football our officials are embarrassingly shite and not fit for purpose, they must be a complete laughing stock
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UEFA have been impressed with both Oliver & Taylor during the Euros, hence them still getting the big games. They came out in praise of Taylor's decision to disallow the Dutch goal v France too yet he was widely chastised on here for it. The VAR though, yes, took too long to verify Taylor as correct but other than that they are working within the parameters set. In fact, they'd prefer we were even stricter with it. See the Georgia penalty vs Portugal, there's no way an English official gives that decision.
 
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