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CCFCSteve

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  • Jun 26, 2024
  • #2,661
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Against the bus parking teams you need all the more to play at higher tempo rather than patiently waiting for them to get fully set in front of you.

The few times we saw some one touch passing yesterday it opened them up.
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Agree. It’s very strange. These are top quality technical players as well. As I say, mainoo, palmer (and even Gordon a couple of times) stood out by doing that
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Jun 26, 2024
  • #2,662
Ps I’ve always been quite supportive of Southgate but I’m livid with his management of Bellingham. The poor lads getting the flack after running himself into the ground in the first game and yet Southgate’s left him on last two games, out of position, when he’s looked out on his feet and there’s fresh legs on the bench.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jun 26, 2024
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Unconvincing but have done what they were supposed to do which is win the group.

Tournament starts now. Now's the time for them to step up.
 
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Sky Blue Harry H

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  • Jun 26, 2024
  • #2,664
So - it's more than likely the Dutch in the next round. They will attack us - more than we have been so far. We will be up against Virgil van D in defence for them. If GS rings the changes, we should have a chance, but.... Not sure what the pitch will be like on Sunday, but hope it's a lot better than the last two we've 'attempted to have' played on.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Jun 26, 2024
  • #2,665
Look

We may well go on and storm the tournament , and some people may hate the fact that fans talk this way about how the team are playing etc etc ...

Fact is up until this point we've been very poor , nobody can argue against that


Hopefully we get better and thankfully we are on the better side of the draw
 
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David O'Day

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  • Jun 26, 2024
  • #2,666
Sky Blue Harry H said:
So - it's more than likely the Dutch in the next round. They will attack us - more than we have been so far. We will be up against Virgil van D in defence for them. If GS rings the changes, we should have a chance, but.... Not sure what the pitch will be like on Sunday, but hope it's a lot better than the last two we've 'attempted to have' played on.
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Will they attack us? Koeman can be a bit Southgate like at times
 

Sky Blue Harry H

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  • Jun 26, 2024
  • #2,667
David O'Day said:
Will they attack us? Koeman can be a bit Southgate like at times
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More that they have some players capable of attacking us than up to date. As you say, he may be a bit Southgate like, but maybe they haven't yet been as indoctrinated into negativity like ours seem to have been. Release the hounds !!
 

SeaSeeEffCee

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  • Jun 26, 2024
  • #2,668
Angry at Southgate most of all but also incredibly pissed off at the players. You can’t blame the manager solely for how bad some of them have been. Even more pissed off by how little responsibility they’re taking for the performance and the way they’re acting like we should be happy with how they’ve played.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Jun 26, 2024
  • #2,669
Best 10 in the world
 

SeaSeeEffCee

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  • Jun 26, 2024
  • #2,670
Evo1883 said:
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He is as dreadful last night and his attitude stinks.
 

Nuskyblue

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  • Jun 26, 2024
  • #2,671
OffenhamSkyBlue said:
There was NO tempo, NO movement off the ball, and VERY little quality in any of the passing, except that ball through the middle (was it Mainoo) towards the end.
There is no system - they are a bunch of disparate (though individually very good) players who have to move all over the pitch trying to find a way of getting someone to put a decent ball into them.

They said on the radio this morning that they are still struggling to find someone to partner Rice. Well, is that the problem? Trying to build a team around him is maybe a fool's errand!
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Rice looked fine with Mainoo next to him.

Mainoo looked competent, unlike TTA and Gallagher (did he touch the ball in the first half?

There needs to be 2-3 changes to that starting line up IMO.
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Jun 26, 2024
  • #2,672
SeaSeeEffCee said:
He is as dreadful last night and his attitude stinks.
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Not sure how you can comment on his attitude?

Although I would drop him next game in all honesty and play Palmer
 

SeaSeeEffCee

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  • Jun 26, 2024
  • #2,673
Ccfcisparks said:
Not sure how you can comment on his attitude?

Although I would drop him next game in all honesty and play Palmer
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He spent most of last night throwing his arms in the air, getting in team-mates way and trying back heels/flicks and losing the ball. Obviously just going off what is seen in the pitch but it was just petulant from him last night.
 

Evo1883

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  • Jun 26, 2024
  • #2,674
Long story short , he's not the best 10 in the world , jack rudoni is
 
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ccfctommy

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  • Jun 26, 2024
  • #2,675
Liquid Gold said:
We’re a semi final team at least.

once someone finally attacks us we’ll destroy them.
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Are you pissed?
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jun 26, 2024
  • #2,676
Nuskyblue said:
Rice looked fine with Mainoo next to him.

Mainoo looked competent, unlike TTA and Gallagher (did he touch the ball in the first half?

There needs to be 2-3 changes to that starting line up IMO.
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Not sure I've ever seen Gallagher have a decent game for England? Sure he must have done!
 
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Mr Panda

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  • Jun 26, 2024
  • #2,677
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
What, so he can get no assists? Give the ball away constantly, and lose under his presence?

I'll give you something. He would fit in great.
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He'd supply the attacking midfielders a lot better than Rice though
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Jun 26, 2024
  • #2,678
Was at the game yesterday and well, it wasn’t great.

That midfield area was a real problem area now and before the tournament. Mainoo not Wharton are players that will give us the ‘control’ we need in games.

There’s a lot of finger pointing at the manager, but there was far too many poor individual performances and errors.

We won the group and you move on from it now and the nature of the matches will change now we’re on the KO rounds. The Netherlands (or whomever) won’t be putting 10 players behind the ball to play for a draw.
 
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Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Jun 26, 2024
  • #2,679
CCFCSteve said:
Ps I’ve always been quite supportive of Southgate but I’m livid with his management of Bellingham. The poor lads getting the flack after running himself into the ground in the first game and yet Southgate’s left him on last two games, out of position, when he’s looked out on his feet and there’s fresh legs on the bench.
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Was the reason to get minutes in his legs for the KO rounds. He really played 90m the weeks leading up to the camp, same with Kane too.

Bellingham was awful last night and if he’s unfit, I’d start Foden 10, drop Bellingham and start Palmer for Saka. At least last nights performance showed that Bellingham at the ‘8’ and Foden at the ‘10’ isn’t the answer for this team.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jun 26, 2024
  • #2,680
Palmer should have played before last night he’s the in form guy
Not sure what’s up with Kane he doesn’t look fit and also Bellingham in the last couple of games
Guehi has done well but has a mistake in him
Trippier is not a left or left wing back
Rice isn’t the same player for arsenal and England - I suppose who is
Groups are for getting out of we have finished top unlike a few others of the normally good teams
Let’s see if we can step it up in the knockouts
We’re gonna have to
 

Paul Anthony

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  • Jun 26, 2024
  • #2,681
I guess if you want to try and put a positive spin on it, you could say at least we're consistent.

That's not much use when we're consistently crap, mind you...
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

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  • Jun 26, 2024
  • #2,682

Jude bellingham

Not normally one for crowing about young players but this whole peice of play is so good for a lad so young , are we looking at a potential all timer in the making ? What a player
www.skybluestalk.co.uk

LOL
 

Evo1883

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  • Jun 26, 2024
  • #2,683
SkyBlue_Bear83 said:

Jude bellingham

Not normally one for crowing about young players but this whole peice of play is so good for a lad so young , are we looking at a potential all timer in the making ? What a player
www.skybluestalk.co.uk

LOL
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Yes unfortunately , got caught up in the hype and spoke too soon

Like to add that from January after this post his form dropped dramatically , he's definitely got alot to work on But he's young

But yes talk of an all timer was pretty stupid
 

Otis

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  • Jun 26, 2024
  • #2,684
OffenhamSkyBlue said:
Is that to the tune of Tom Hark??
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No, that would be

The whole thing's daft
We all know why
Southgate is shit
Cos we are goal shy
 
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Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Jun 26, 2024
  • #2,685
Sky Blue Pete said:
Palmer should have played before last night he’s the in form guy
Not sure what’s up with Kane he doesn’t look fit and also Bellingham in the last couple of games
Guehi has done well but has a mistake in him
Trippier is not a left or left wing back
Rice isn’t the same player for arsenal and England - I suppose who is
Groups are for getting out of we have finished top unlike a few others of the normally good teams
Let’s see if we can step it up in the knockouts
We’re gonna have to
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I have no qualms with the squad selection going into the tournament, the only real ‘debate’ was the midfield i.e. should Trent play there or Bellingham/Foden. Now that’s been ‘discredited’ people don’t know what to do. It irritates me when the pundits then turnaround and call more or less the same lineups ‘conservative’ that they themselves more or less picked before the tournament.

Players like Palmer, Mainoo and Wharton have little international experience and have only broken onto the scene. The latter two will be future starters if they continue at the trajectory they’re on, but for people like Scholes to compare Kobbie to Kroos and Modric is just setting him up to fail. In Ten Haag’s words, we bring these players up just to shoot them down. As for Palmer, agree he should start the next game but he’s missed a lot of England games this season so understand why he’s been eased into it.

As for Trippier, again I agree, it’s well and good pointing out he’s not a LB but the alternatives are Chilwell and Shaw - both players either injured or just returned after playing little football this season. When pundits like Ian Wright suggest Saka plays LB, you know these people just haven’t got a clue what they’d do themselves.

We won the group and despite the negativity around the team, it’s not changed the outcome had we won all the games comfortably.
 
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MusicDating

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  • Jun 26, 2024
  • #2,686
2024 Euros v 1990 WC

 
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Evo1883

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  • Jun 26, 2024
  • #2,687
MusicDating said:
2024 Euros v 1990 WC

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It's coming home
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Jun 26, 2024
  • #2,688
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Evo1883 said:
Yes unfortunately , got caught up in the hype and spoke too soon

Like to add that from January after this post his form dropped dramatically , he's definitely got alot to work on But he's young

But yes talk of an all timer was pretty stupid
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I don’t think you were wrong, it’s not just hype. He’s a great player and still only 20. To do what he’s done at his age is special. He’s not a machine though and I think has looked leggy/knackered last two games
 
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ovduk78

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  • Jun 26, 2024
  • #2,689
MusicDating said:
2024 Euros v 1990 WC

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Wasn't 1990 the World Cup when the team went to Robson to convince him to play a back 3 or was that 1986? I can't see any player(s) convincing this twat to change tactics.
 

Evo1883

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  • Jun 26, 2024
  • #2,690
Dutch lad I know doesn't think they will beat England
 

SBAndy

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  • Jun 26, 2024
  • #2,691
CCFCSteve said:
I don’t think you were wrong, it’s not just hype. He’s a great player and still only 20. To do what he’s done at his age is special. He’s not a machine though and I think has looked leggy/knackered last two games
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Part of the issue. He’s played around 100 games as a 19/20 year old in the last 2 years. He’ll be burnt out by 28.
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Jun 26, 2024
  • #2,692
Evo1883 said:
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Won us three points almost single handedly against Serbia (well, with Guehi) though. Got winner and can’t recall many other good performances. V poor yesterday and should’ve been off at half time. I’d said to a couple of mates before the game I’d have been tempted to have him on bench and give him a break to be fresh and up for knock outs…instead Southgate plays him for full 90
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jun 26, 2024
  • #2,693
SBAndy said:
Part of the issue. He’s played around 100 games as a 19/20 year old in the last 2 years. He’ll be burnt out by 28.
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Is indeed the danger. Assuming he keeps going, his peak tournaments are still four, six, eight years away.
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Jun 26, 2024
  • #2,694
SBAndy said:
Part of the issue. He’s played around 100 games as a 19/20 year old in the last 2 years. He’ll be burnt out by 28.
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Exactly. Plus this season for the biggest club in the world and only finished at the start of June, had a week off and straight into camp. Im also worried about burn out, especially after starting men’s football at 16
 
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Evo1883

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  • Jun 26, 2024
  • #2,695
Despite the negativity I feel a strange confidence about reaching atleast the semi final
 
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