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UEFA EURO 2024 (6 Viewers)

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HadjiChippo

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  • Jun 20, 2024
  • #1,681
hamertime said:
Probably the worst mentality of any team at the Euros.
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I’ve watched every game so far and it feels like only ours have been stinkers.
 
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hamertime

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  • Jun 20, 2024
  • #1,682
Southgate lost everything as a player, went in to management for middlesborough relegated them then got the England job. A loser in everything
 
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eyesee

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  • Jun 20, 2024
  • #1,683
fuck me, that was dreadful.
 

Evo1883

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  • Jun 20, 2024
  • #1,684
 

Mr Panda

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  • Jun 20, 2024
  • #1,685
Evo1883 said:
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This is depressing
 

PUSB-We_are_going_up

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  • Jun 20, 2024
  • #1,686
Evo1883 said:
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Dont need a natural replacement he’s a bang average footballer, probably championship standard.
 
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Skybluekyle

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  • Jun 20, 2024
  • #1,687
Otis said:
He played well. He made one really bad mistake and made up for it, by getting the tackle in and saving himself.

I think people are parroting each others because they agree.

He had a decent game.
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I will admit, I made a huge groan when he lost the ball, but all of them were doing it. Don't get me wrong, if we lost Denmark would have deserved the win, but our players seemed to shit themselves when a Danish player got to within four feet of them, not an exceptional amount of pressure.

Guehi had as good a game as anyone in white, far from our main issue. One of the worst performances I've seen for a while, thought Serbia was bad enough!
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Jun 20, 2024
  • #1,688
Evo1883 said:
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Don't want to sound dramatic, but that's genuinely in lost-the-plot territory. The players are worrying me as well though, their mindset seems off.

Maddison and Grealish are on holiday laughing their heads off at the moment. Would of minded seeing both of them today.
 
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Jun 20, 2024
  • #1,689
Brb, just going to fly to Australia whilst the Italians do their anthem.
 
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SkyBlue_Bear83

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  • Jun 20, 2024
  • #1,690
PVA said:
Nah, I disagree.

Bellingham, Foden, Rice, Saka, etc etc are incredible players and unbelievably good technically.

And look at our youth teams winning loads of tournaments.

It's not a technique thing, they are just being managed appallingly.
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Not sure, we have some good technical players but not sure it's at the same level as some other nations.

Bowen, Gallagher, Rice, Watkins who all played today are lacking technique imo compared to the top teams and nations and if you look on our bench there aren't many others known for their technical ability.
 

SeaSeeEffCee

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  • Jun 20, 2024
  • #1,691
Evo1883 said:
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I don’t get what’s so offensive about this? He’s saying we don’t have a natural defensive mid in the squad like we did in the last few tournaments so he’s trying something else. Obviously it’s not working and he needs to change it but I don’t see what fundamentally wrong with saying that?
 

Evo1883

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  • Jun 20, 2024
  • #1,692
SeaSeeEffCee said:
I don’t get what’s so offensive about this? He’s saying we don’t have a natural defensive mid in the squad like we did in the last few tournaments so he’s trying something else. Obviously it’s not working and he needs to change it but I don’t see what fundamentally wrong with saying that?
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Why do we have to play 2 holding midfielders next to eachother ? We could drop jude next to rice
 
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PVA

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  • Jun 20, 2024
  • #1,693
Just play Wharton ffs, he's class and already way better than Kalvin Phillips ever was.
 
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lifeskyblue

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  • Jun 20, 2024
  • #1,694
Evo1883 said:
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I watch that 90 mins and my first thought was not …’how can we replace Calvin Phillips’. Clearly I’m not international manager material.
Laughable
 
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Sky Blue Harry H

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  • Jun 20, 2024
  • #1,695
Spain created as much in 4 minutes against Italy, as we did in 90plus v Denmark.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Jun 20, 2024
  • #1,696
I'd just like to point out that England have played a whopping 4 matches with jude bellingham as a 10 , and won 1

England need to go back to a 433 , with rice bellingham and Wharton/mainoo , or Gallagher if it pleases Gareth so much and play jude as a fucking 8.
 

Sky Blue Harry H

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  • Jun 20, 2024
  • #1,697
SeaSeeEffCee said:
I don’t get what’s so offensive about this? He’s saying we don’t have a natural defensive mid in the squad like we did in the last few tournaments so he’s trying something else. Obviously it’s not working and he needs to change it but I don’t see what fundamentally wrong with saying that?
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I think it's rueing the absence of a defensive player, when we have created 2 (?) chances and played awfully as an attacking team against meh opponents.
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

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  • Jun 20, 2024
  • #1,698
Evo1883 said:
I'd just like to point out that England have played a whopping 4 matches with jude bellingham as a 10 , and won 1
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12 months ago he was an all action box to box midfielder, I know he had a great season at 10 for madrid but I'm not sure it's his best position
 

Evo1883

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  • Jun 20, 2024
  • #1,699
SkyBlue_Bear83 said:
12 months ago he was an all action box to box midfielder, I know he had a great season at 10 for madrid but I'm not sure it's his best position
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He had a great half season , his form dropped after Christmas.. the English media always forget this key part
 

Tommo1993

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  • Jun 20, 2024
  • #1,700
Just can’t get my head around the potential we have, on major international stage are second guessing who’s tracking and who’s pressing - like it’s down to one person. Ugh that was abysmal.
 
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SeaSeeEffCee

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  • Jun 20, 2024
  • #1,701
Spain and Italy moving the ball so fast and with purpose. Why can’t we play like this?
 
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PVA

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  • Jun 20, 2024
  • #1,702
Look at the pace of this game. Both times playing with purpose.

Compare it to our pedestrian play.

Edit - beaten to it!
 
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SeaSeeEffCee

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  • Jun 20, 2024
  • #1,703
The thing is we did actually play like this against France at the World Cup. We’ve regressed so much since then.
 
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Tommo1993

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  • Jun 20, 2024
  • #1,704
Chiesa has aged badly in 3 years, wtf has he done.
 

shepardo01

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  • Jun 20, 2024
  • #1,705
 
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PVA

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  • Jun 20, 2024
  • #1,706
It's actually a bit depressing watching Spain move the ball quickly and taking the game to Italy.

Imagine how good we could be if we did the same with the attacking talent we have.
 

robbiekeane

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 20, 2024
  • #1,707
PVA said:
It's actually a bit depressing watching Spain move the ball quickly and taking the game to Italy.

Imagine how good we could be if we did the same with the attacking talent we have.
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I are just so fucking depressing
 

robbiekeane

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  • Jun 20, 2024
  • #1,708
To be fair I wonder if it’s just expectation. The last time we had a fun tournament was when no one expected anything from us
 

eyesee

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  • Jun 20, 2024
  • #1,709
shepardo01 said:
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...tbf, it's kalvin phillip's job to take the pizzas off the conveyor.
 

Sky Blue Harry H

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  • Jun 20, 2024
  • #1,710
Although we are rightly bookies favourites, I think Spain might just give us a game
 
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Frostie

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  • Jun 20, 2024
  • #1,711
SeaSeeEffCee said:
I don’t get what’s so offensive about this? He’s saying we don’t have a natural defensive mid in the squad like we did in the last few tournaments so he’s trying something else. Obviously it’s not working and he needs to change it but I don’t see what fundamentally wrong with saying that?
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Agreed. There's nothing wrong with what's he's said there, he's right. That's his preferred system & it's served us well in the past. The flip side, & the fans argument, is they don't want us to play that way.

The below interview was some months ago now & I think is pretty fair. Since then Wharton has really emerged though & I'd be giving him a go in that position.

 
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covmark

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  • Jun 20, 2024
  • #1,712
Struggling to replace Kalvin Phillips is one fucking depressing statement. Dire.
 

Evo1883

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  • Jun 20, 2024
  • #1,713
Frostie said:
Agreed. There's nothing wrong with what's he's said there, he's right. That's his preferred system & it's served us well in the past. The flip side, & the fans argument, is they don't want us to play that way.

The below interview was some months ago now & I think is pretty fair. Since then Wharton has really emerged though & I'd be giving him a go in that position.

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We've flipped between 433 and 4231 many times in the last 2 years ,the fact he seems to suggest Phillips is the glue is mind bending , there is alot wrong with what he's said
 
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xcraigx

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  • Jun 20, 2024
  • #1,714
Scotland 2021, USA 2022 and today. It's all rather predictable. The positive being it's in our hands to finish top of the group. The negative, I don't think with this current set up we have a way of turning up the performance level. As soon as we meet a half decent team we will be on our way home.
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jun 20, 2024
  • #1,715
When you have people making excuses for Southgate after losing a final in what was essentially a home game in front of 90% + of your own fans, what do you expect? Any other ‘top’ football nation would have had him out the door within days.
 
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