LastGarrison
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Maybe Southgate should have thought about playing a right back who can’t defend and who would be completely out of position there for the first couple of games and seen how we’d get on?
Maybe Southgate should have thought about playing a right back who can’t defend and who would be completely out of position there for the first couple of games and seen how we’d get on?At the minute, Mainoo isn't disciplined enough to play against top quality sides, like you say he is very forward thinking, so in qualifying he will boss it. He pressed too high, leaving Rice to cover too much ground. The gap between the midfield and the defence was too big at times and Olmo had lots of space to play in particular in the first half. Everyone will say Rice played poorly but defensively for most of the tournament he's had to do two players work in there. Mainoo will absolutely boss it in qualifying.
Which other countries have half a dozen players as good as Bellingham and Foden?
You're correct that we have had great squads before, but I would argue that at the time the many of the other big nations were much stronger than they are now.
He isn’t one for experimenting even in friendlies unless it’s Kalvin Phillips replacements…
No but he shows blind loyalty for years to players like Phillips who have blocked the space for better players to get game time, picked an unfit bloke upfront and overplayed a tired player in Bellingham.Depends on whether you are judging them at club or international level I guess. Let’s be clear the manager has to take a huge amount of blame but he doesn’t. 1/ misplace passes 2/ show poor close control. There is a technical gap between British and continental footballers and always has been
He's one player I don't doubt goes into nearly every team ever.And this is your Balon D'Or winner , not jude fucking bellinghan
He's one player I don't doubt goes into nearly every team ever.
No one is saying they are crap but the argument often used that they play far better for clubs is not always that much of an argumentWe had the La Liga PotS, Bundesliga top scorer, PL PotS. I’m not sure I buy the “English players are uniquely crap compared to literally every other country” stuff.
No one is saying they are crap but the argument often used that they play far better for clubs is not always that much of an argument
Kyle Walker played 50 games for Man City and has looked woeful in this tournament - he was out of position for both goals and would not be picked by the other top international teams. Other than Stones we have very few quality defenders.
And yet it was only after he went off that they took one minute to score!I think busquets keeps him out of the Spain team back then , although I really really do rate him so it's not a dig on his behalf just that busquets was sublime , although I'd argue slightly different players
All Opinion though
Rodri is the world's best at what he does now , a great player
You think kyle Walker, who is picked week in week out by pep guardiola , wouldn't get into many top international teams ? Lol
Good one
Yeah Walker is easily in the top 3 right backs in the world
It’s no wonder the players all want Southgate to stay on. Can play as shit as they like and get a complete free pass.
Who said it was all the players fault? And who said it was nothing to do with the manager? Where in my post is any of that said?All the players fault yea ?
7 matches Played fucking dire in all but 45 minutes , nothing to do with the manager no ?
Who said it was all the players fault? And who said it was nothing to do with the manager? Where in my post is any of that said?
Clearly the manager takes the majority of the blame for the performances but absolving the players of any blame is ridiculous. Far too many of our supposed world class players come out of this tournament with zero credit.
No worries mate, sorry if I was a bit hostile with my response as wellSpain beat
Italy
Croatia
Germany
France
England
That's a tournament win to be celebrated
Sorry misunderstood what you were saying apologies
No worries mate, sorry if I was a bit hostile with my response as well
It’s time for Southgate to go, but those players definitely need to take some responsibility for their own performances. The only ones who come out of the tournament looking ok are Pickford, Guehi, Stones, Mainoo and the bench players. Bellingham, Kane, Walker, Rice and Foden especially had horrendous tournaments.
Southgate defining moment in the tournament was just before Spain scored the winner when the BBC commentator said:
We have Connor Gallagher and Kieren Tripper getting ready to come on....
Don't want another few years of that negativity when we should have been the team to go on and win the game!
I know I harp on but I genuinely believe that they struggle to play the way Gareth wants them too
Says it all. Just one team in the entire tournament with a lower non penalty xG per 90
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His shot stopping was great, nearly everything dealt with that he could realistically (Xavi Simon’s goal aside, can see how that goes through his hand just through sheer power and surprise). Even his punching, which I usually abhor from keepers, was well timed and well judged.The player that I actually like more since the tournament and will admit I've had reservations about is pickford .. arguably our most reliable player
Walker was excellent in the first half playing against probably the best player in the tournament.You think kyle Walker, who is picked week in week out by pep guardiola , wouldn't get into many top international teams ? Lol
Good one
I don’t understand the calls for Potter. Couldn't handle the pressure at Chelsea so I can't see him handling being England manager. Brighton improved when he left.And I think Eddie howe is the obvious choice , a nice guy who seems to be able to get his teams playing nice attacking football , will be good in the dressing room too and will keep the squad harmony .
Will cost the FA though
I worry a bit about Graham Potter , but he's out of work and probably the obvious choice should Gareth leave
I absolutely do not want to see Lee carsley managing our national team
I don’t understand the calls for Potter. Couldn't handle the pressure at Chelsea so I can't see him handling being England manager. Brighton improved when he left.
Howe is pretty uninspiring too.
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