UEFA EURO 2024 (5 Viewers)

SBAndy · Jul 9, 2024

May be wrong on this, but Italy played attacking football at Euro 2020 and won, Argentina played attacking football at World Cup 2022 and won, Spain look easily capable of winning this tournament whilst playing attacking football.

Do we have to accept that defensive football at international level isn’t necessarily the success metric it once was?

Evo1883 · Jul 9, 2024

SBAndy said:
May be wrong on this, but Italy played attacking football at Euro 2020 and won, Argentina played attacking football at World Cup 2022 and won, Spain look easily capable of winning this tournament whilst playing attacking football.

Do we have to accept that defensive football at international level isn’t necessarily the success metric it once was?

Has it ever really been ?

One or 2 tournaments maybe

Deleted member 9744 · Jul 9, 2024

That Jamal goal reminded me of the goal Ndlovu scored against Villa.

AOM · Jul 9, 2024

What a freak injury to Morata

Sky Blue Harry H · Jul 9, 2024

Deleted member 9744 said:
That Jamal goal reminded me of the goal Ndlovu scored against Villa.

How can you spell Yamal incorrectly, yet spell Ndlovu correctly ?!

Nick · Jul 9, 2024

2 footed by the security bloke.

Sky Blue Harry H · Jul 9, 2024

Spains obvious weakness is their defence - particularly full backs lack of pace. If we do beat the Dutch, GS absolutely has to be brave, and attack them down the flanks with pace. Otherwise we'll barely get a kick, as we watch them pass us to death.

SBAndy · Jul 9, 2024

Sky Blue Harry H said:
Spains obvious weakness is their defence - particularly full backs lack of pace. If we do beat the Dutch, GS absolutely has to be brave, and attack them down the flanks with pace. Otherwise we'll barely get a kick, as we watch them pass us to death.

It’s the type of game where, if we had Kane dropping deep and runners going beyond him (I’m thinking more Saka and Gordon as opposed to Foden and Bellingham) there’s going to be opportunities. Proper traditional counter-attacking play.

Of course, we’ll see exactly the same as we’ve seen in every game so far, should we make it.

SBAndy · Jul 9, 2024

Evo1883 said:
Has it ever really been ?

One or 2 tournaments maybe

To be fair, you’ve got:

France 2018
Portugal 2016
Spain 2012 (yes, I know they turned it on in the final)
Spain 2010
Italy 2006
Greece 2004

This period of tournaments have been dominated by defensive play. Germany 2014 I wouldn’t call attacking either, but more balance to their play. Spain 2008 I can’t really remember - think there was more of a passing interest as England weren’t there.

San Francisco · Jul 10, 2024

Sky Blue Harry H said:
Spains obvious weakness is their defence - particularly full backs lack of pace. If we do beat the Dutch, GS absolutely has to be brave, and attack them down the flanks with pace. Otherwise we'll barely get a kick, as we watch them pass us to death.

Saka and Gordon would slaughter their full backs. Would be a fascinating watch if we do get to the final and GS decides to go all out.

Tommo1993 · Jul 10, 2024

I dozed off.

Adieu, shit cunts!

Sick Boy · Jul 10, 2024

Tommo1993 said:
I dozed off.

Adieu, shit cunts!

I was keen to see how you’d handle the Swiss but was left disappointed.

Tommo1993 · Jul 10, 2024

Sick Boy said:
I was keen to see how you’d handle the Swiss but was left disappointed.

I was so worked up, I forgot.

Tonight I’m expecting a ‘ta ta, shit cunts’

Sky_Blue_Daz · Jul 10, 2024

Liquid Gold · Jul 10, 2024

We have actually been shocking in the euros

jimmyhillsfanclub · Jul 10, 2024

Even worse when you consider our meagre success was with home advantage......

Evo1883 · Jul 10, 2024

Liquid Gold said:
We have actually been shocking in the euros

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4 teams up until the late 70s i believe ,then only 2 groups , then when it went to 4 groups the competition was overall incredible .

Ive always found up until 2016 when the format changed the euros to be an incredibly challenging tournament to win , the stars just aligned for Greece

Sky_Blue_Daz · Jul 10, 2024

So where can Holland be exploited ? I still think VVD is a quality defender but may be susceptible to an attacker with pace

Mucca Mad Boys · Jul 10, 2024

SBAndy said:
May be wrong on this, but Italy played attacking football at Euro 2020 and won, Argentina played attacking football at World Cup 2022 and won, Spain look easily capable of winning this tournament whilst playing attacking football.

Do we have to accept that defensive football at international level isn’t necessarily the success metric it once was?

We scored more Argentina before we got knocked out. In the groups they were not great and even lost to Saudi Arabia. Fair play to Spain, Yamal’s goal was something special and the difference between the two teams.

Sky_Blue_Daz said:
So where can Holland be exploited ? I still think VVD is a quality defender but may be susceptible to an attacker with pace

Down the left hand side, because they play a 4-2-3-1/4-3-3 and Dumfries operates like a RWB. There will be spaces behind him where De Virj plays - unfortunately our left hand side has been weak. Apparently Koeman likes to play 3-4-1-2 against stronger teams like ourselves.

Feeling good about the game later!

Otis · Jul 10, 2024

Liquid Gold said:
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Can't we go back to the days of "did not participate", when we thought it was well beneath us to get involved?

Sky_Blue_Daz · Jul 10, 2024

nostalgic trip down memory lane,

Earlsdon_Skyblue1 · Jul 10, 2024

Sky_Blue_Daz said:
So where can Holland be exploited ? I still think VVD is a quality defender but may be susceptible to an attacker with pace

The Netherlands aren't very good. I would say Switzerland are a tougher challenge but they'll be an interesting opponent with how the tournament has played out. On paper we have the players, but as we have seen, we've limped through our last two games and if we try to do the same tonight, probably won't get away with it again.

I'm Just hoping the penalty win has brought everyone together and we have a new hunger from that. If it can galvanise us and we turn up, we will have the beating of them. Let's see!

Otis · Jul 10, 2024

Sky_Blue_Daz said:
nostalgic trip down memory lane,

So that's what football looks like.

Alkhen · Jul 10, 2024

Its going to be odd having an opposition actually try an attack us for once this tournament.

Might be wishful thinking but we have always looked awful against stubborn opposition. Part of me hopes that not just having to break a low block may allow us to play a bit more ourselves and spring counters.

Pretty nervous for this game

Ccfcisparks · Jul 10, 2024

Anyone make any changes to the line up for this game?

Matt smith · Jul 10, 2024

Ccfcisparks said:
Anyone make any changes to the line up for this game?

Guehi comes back in

SkyBlue_Bear83 · Jul 10, 2024

Mucca Mad Boys said:
We scored more Argentina before we got knocked out. In the groups they were not great and even lost to Saudi Arabia. Fair play to Spain, Yamal’s goal was something special and the difference between the two teams.

Down the left hand side, because they play a 4-2-3-1/4-3-3 and Dumfries operates like a RWB. There will be spaces behind him where De Virj plays - unfortunately our left hand side has been weak. Apparently Koeman likes to play 3-4-1-2 against stronger teams like ourselves.

Feeling good about the game later!

Dumfries V Tripper is gonna be like an attack v defence training exercise

Evo1883 · Jul 10, 2024

I think we will lose tonight, not that holland are particularly great rather they have better attacking players than Switzerland and can hurt you more .

England 1 - 2 Holland

Evo1883 · Jul 10, 2024

Sky_Blue_Daz said:
nostalgic trip down memory lane,

So good by paul Ince for the penalty , and a famous 3rd goal , superb England that day

Tommo1993 · Jul 10, 2024

Evo1883 said:
I think we will lose tonight, not that holland are particularly great rather they have better attacking players than Switzerland and can hurt you more .

England 1 - 2 Holland

Yeah I think it ends here. Despite expecting that I still think it’s gonna be 90 mins of us getting wound up with Southgateball.

Evo1883 · Jul 10, 2024

Tommo1993 said:
Yeah I think it ends here. Despite expecting that I still think it’s gonna be 90 mins of us getting wound up with Southgateball.

Going down the old man's so probably wont be on here to show my frustration

Sky_Blue_Daz · Jul 10, 2024

Evo1883 said:
So good by paul Ince for the penalty , and a famous 3rd goal , superb England that day

Really nice piece of skill from Ince

Liquid Gold · Jul 10, 2024

Kicking off a bit in Dortmund

Seen videos of the Dutch doing their stupid line dancing bit too

LastGarrison · Jul 10, 2024

Yeah just seen a couple of videos of Dutch attacking the English.

Should be interesting over the next couple of hours.

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