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  • Start date Mar 28, 2014
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Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 29, 2014
  • #141
mrtrench said:
I wonder how many ex-W'don fans still travel to Milton Keynes every home game.
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Not that many now they have another club to support. A good mate of mine is a Dons fan. Most of them went with their new club. They don't see MK Dons as their club now. But there are exceptions. And there always will be. Just like our exceptions are the ones travelling to Northampton.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Mar 29, 2014
  • #142
Astute said:
Do you constantly have a go at your dad for not going like you do us on here? Or is he right not to go but we are wrong?
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Depends if his dad calls him a scab
 

Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 29, 2014
  • #143
Nick said:
Depends if his dad calls him a scab
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Did you call him a scab Nick? Because I haven't seen him called a scab on here.

But there again his dad knows him better than us so he might have
 

torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 29, 2014
  • #144
Astute said:
Did you call him a scab Nick? Because I haven't seen him called a scab on here.

But there again his dad knows him better than us so he might have
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He hasnt called me Super Fan either. Or a Sisu Apologist.

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Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 29, 2014
  • #145
torchomatic said:
He hasnt called me Super Fan either. Or a Sisu Apologist.

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Do you tell him he is wrong for not going like you tell us we are?
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 29, 2014
  • #146
Astute is in "troll mode" best to ignore him and his infantile jibes.
 

Astute

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  • Mar 29, 2014
  • #147
Grendel said:
Astute is in "troll mode" best to ignore him and his infantile jibes.
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I put this forward as ironic post of the week.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 29, 2014
  • #148
Astute said:
I put this forward as ironic post of the week.
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Hardly on another thread you have suggested some fans want to stay in Northampton. Absurd and you know it.
 

torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 29, 2014
  • #149
Astute said:
Do you constantly have a go at your dad for not going like you do us on here? Or is he right not to go but we are wrong?
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Just point me to where I "constantly have a go ". Ta.

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Sky Blue Kid

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 29, 2014
  • #150
Grendel said:
Astute is in "troll mode" best to ignore him and his infantile jibes.
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Would you like a mirror?
 

torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 29, 2014
  • #151
Sky Blue Kid said:
Would you like a mirror?
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Get you with your quoting.

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torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 29, 2014
  • #152
Duplicate.
 

covmark

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 29, 2014
  • #153
Sky Blue Kid said:
Would you like a mirror?
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Congratulations on finally working out how to use a computer.
 

Sky Blue Kid

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 29, 2014
  • #154
skybluetony176 said:
I love the way people say that they are funding the losses like they are making a charitable donation. Is it not fair to say that they are borrowing the money from either their investors and/or ARVO? Surely this money is then saddled to the club as debt and the club pay interest on this debt. Sounds more like a pay day loan to me only no one knows when or how the pay day is coming.
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Top reply mate, SISU won't do anything unless it's making them money.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Mar 29, 2014
  • #155
torchomatic said:
Get you with your quoting.
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He gets a like for that.
 

Sky Blue Kid

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 29, 2014
  • #156
Deleted member 5849 said:
He gets a like for that.
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I have to "Log out" then "Log in" again on the reply I want for it to work, but doesn't always work. Perhaps Nick turned that filter off Norman.
 

Sky Blue Kid

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 29, 2014
  • #157
It's got nothing to do with me finally working out how to use a computer.
 

covmark

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  • Mar 29, 2014
  • #158
Sky Blue Kid said:
It's got nothing to do with me finally working out how to use a computer.
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Just kidding sbk
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Mar 29, 2014
  • #159
The Wasp said:
Top reply mate, SISU won't do anything unless it's making them money.
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That was the hard faced businessmen we wanted
 

Sky Blue Kid

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 29, 2014
  • #160
fernandopartridge said:
That was the hard faced businessmen we wanted
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I'm proud to say I was in the minutest of minorities in never wanting them as our owners. I said before the ink was dry on the takeover papers that they would strip our Club to the bone. Sadly I've been proven right
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 29, 2014
  • #161
Grendel said:
We are having a conversation and it centres around Astutes absurd and deliberately provocative comment as to teaching a child what is right and wrong. What is wrong is to show disrespect to authority, to commit crime, to show xenophobia or racist behaviour -- it is not wrong to attend a football match.

Curiously I suspect Astute would think it was wrong to follow a club at a temporary home as it supports the owners but if he was a fan of, say, Blackpool he would see no moral issue in giving that owner his and his childs money as they play in their home town.
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Right and wrong are entirely subjective. For example, personally I think questioning authority is far more important than respecting them. Similarly, I believe it is possible to commit a crime and not be in the wrong.

If someone believes that patronising a club that actively attacks its fans is wrong or supporting the further commercialisation of a former community game is wrong, then it is entirely their right to pass that belief system on, just as you have every right to teach Grendel Jr whatever you want about the world.

And if you want to use the majority view as a universal barometer to gage "wrongness" I think you'll find yourself on the losing side there again.
 

Grendel

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  • Mar 29, 2014
  • #162
shmmeee said:
Right and wrong are entirely subjective. For example, personally I think questioning authority is far more important than respecting them. Similarly, I believe it is possible to commit a crime and not be in the wrong.

If someone believes that patronising a club that actively attacks its fans is wrong or supporting the further commercialisation of a former community game is wrong, then it is entirely their right to pass that belief system on, just as you have every right to teach Grendel Jr whatever you want about the world.

And if you want to use the majority view as a universal barometer to gage "wrongness" I think you'll find yourself on the losing side there again.
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Spoken like a true socialist - missing the irony that challenging authority in any socialist state will mean being frogmarched to the local gulag for a spot of rock breaking.

Power to the people - do me a favour.
 

lordsummerisle

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 29, 2014
  • #163
Grendel said:
Spoken like a true socialist - missing the irony that challenging authority in any socialist state will mean being frogmarched to the local gulag for a spot of rock breaking.

Power to the people - do me a favour.
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All a bit bizarre from somebody who was loving a hedge-fund taking over the club, and thought that Ranson was worth every penny.

A far cry from being a brave defender of football from commercialisiation.
 

lordsummerisle

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 29, 2014
  • #164
shmmeee said:
And if you want to use the majority view as a universal barometer to gage "wrongness" I think you'll find yourself on the losing side there again.
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You were part of the huge majority that thought Sisu were great owners.
 

ccfcway

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 29, 2014
  • #165
why are we all arguing about this ?

90% of fans have voted with their feet. Any fan organisation / representation that didn't support this wouldn't be representing the fans.

As you like facts Grendal, the majority of ccfc fans do not want to support SISU by watching CCFC play home games outside Coventry, FACT.
 

Astute

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  • Mar 30, 2014
  • #166
ccfcway said:
why are we all arguing about this ?

90% of fans have voted with their feet. Any fan organisation / representation that didn't support this wouldn't be representing the fans.

As you like facts Grendal, the majority of ccfc fans do not want to support SISU by watching CCFC play home games outside Coventry, FACT.
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We are arguing about it because of the boycott. The ones that go feel as though they have to let us know their reasons for going when most of us won't. They try to twist the words of others that won't go. And of course they will get a reply.

Going to games was a big part of our lives for a lot of us. I used to arrange my time off around games. Yesterday I arranged my weekend around the game. I had worked the night before the game. So I got my wife to drive me to Crewe. Too late to get the train. Needed some sleep. My wife is very understanding as she also loves football, and she knew my love for CCFC before we got together. We all have our vices

I am told that I am wrong not to take my youngest lad to Northampton. Why should anyone tell me how to bring my kids up. I show them right from wrong. He is only four and wouldn't know the difference now, but as he gets older and asks me why I didn't take him in previous years he will get my reply. And I don't take youngsters of his age to away games for two reasons. One is you can't 100% predict how the home support will be. The other is I normally have a good drink and can mingle with both home and away supporters so having a small one with me would stop this. It can also take me 8 hours or more to get to a game. Then I have the journey home. Not good for a small one. He will be a Sky Blue one day though. Just hope it isn't too many years away.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Mar 30, 2014
  • #167
Astute said:
We are arguing about it because of the boycott. The ones that go feel as though they have to let us know their reasons for going when most of us won't. They try to twist the words of others that won't go. And of course they will get a reply.

Going to games was a big part of our lives for a lot of us. I used to arrange my time off around games. Yesterday I arranged my weekend around the game. I had worked the night before the game. So I got my wife to drive me to Crewe. Too late to get the train. Needed some sleep. My wife is very understanding as she also loves football, and she knew my love for CCFC before we got together. We all have our vices

I am told that I am wrong not to take my youngest lad to Northampton. Why should anyone tell me how to bring my kids up. I show them right from wrong. He is only four and wouldn't know the difference now, but as he gets older and asks me why I didn't take him in previous years he will get my reply. And I don't take youngsters of his age to away games for two reasons. One is you can't 100% predict how the home support will be. The other is I normally have a good drink and can mingle with both home and away supporters so having a small one with me would stop this. It can also take me 8 hours or more to get to a game. Then I have the journey home. Not good for a small one. He will be a Sky Blue one day though. Just hope it isn't too many years away.
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Who has said you are wrong for not taking them?
 

Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 30, 2014
  • #168
Nick said:
Who has said you are wrong for not taking them?
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If I am wrong for not going I am wrong for not taking him. Have you not read the threads about where our next supporters are going to come from?
 

mrtrench

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 30, 2014
  • #169
This really is a very funny thread. It reads like an extract from the playground. All we are missing is "what you say is what you are and you're not allowed to say nice things"
 
C

cobblers

New Member
  • Mar 30, 2014
  • #170
Does anyone actually know who/what SISU are?
 
C

cobblers

New Member
  • Mar 30, 2014
  • #171
apart from cnuts of course!
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Mar 30, 2014
  • #172
Astute said:
If I am wrong for not going I am wrong for not taking him. Have you not read the threads about where our next supporters are going to come from?
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So who has said you are wrong for not taking him to sixfields?
 

Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 30, 2014
  • #173
Nick said:
So who has said you are wrong for not taking him to sixfields?
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The same ones that have said we are wrong for not going.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Mar 30, 2014
  • #174
Astute said:
The same ones that have said we are wrong for not going.
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Where and who has had a go for not taking your kid?
 

letsallsingtogether

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 30, 2014
  • #175
:claping hands:wounded :claping hands:


Sky Blue Kid said:
Would you like a mirror?
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