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chiefdave

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  • Feb 20, 2020
  • #36
Will be interesting to see if this is just something that will be put out and forgotten about or if they will be following it up with press coverage as they do with their other statements. Also key is what happens next. Is this just a check box exercise so they can say they've done it or will they actually start putting some pressure on Wasps?
 

Frostie

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 20, 2020
  • #37
Well, they've followed it up by immediately Retweeting Wasps propaganda :emoji_rolling_eyes:

 
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Grendel

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  • Feb 20, 2020
  • #38
Also tweeting about Peterborough building a new stadium in 2 years - no mention the council supporting the club as a community asset
 

shepardo01

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  • Feb 20, 2020
  • #39
By the looks of it, they have put it out including a little segment about Wasps, passing off the indemnity by adding "whatever that may be" THEN, burying it under a little flurry of likes and retreats!
They have not even posted it on their Facebook page.
Token effort.
Pathetic. Of course it will be forgotten about...
Also includes fuel to confuse people that there are still legals that CAN actually be dropped - Rubbish....
 
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Jcap

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 20, 2020
  • #40
Flying Fokker said:
They always fall short of committing to inside the Coventry boundary. Regular 7k crowds could be the norm unless we are in the city. No shows at Birmingham suggest we need to be in Cov.
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Why would it have to be inside the boundary - Binley Woods, Baginton, other sites are on the edge of the City and would be fine for 99% of fans surely?
 
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Adge

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 20, 2020
  • #41
And this Gem just for a bit of balance-

SISU remains committed to providing CCFC with its own stadium in the Coventry area. We are grateful to the EFL for their support and patience in this matter and will continue to work closely with them throughout the planning and development process. We will provide CCFC with all the assistance required to enable the Club to return to the Coventry area, in a stadium it and its fans can again finally call home.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Feb 20, 2020
  • #42
shepardo01 said:
By the looks of it, they have put it out including a little segment about Wasps, passing off the indemnity by adding "whatever that may be" THEN, burying it under a little flurry of likes and retreats!
They have not even posted it on their Facebook page.
Token effort.
Pathetic. Of course it will be forgotten about...
Also includes fuel to confuse people that there are still legals that CAN actually be dropped - Rubbish....
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You can tell the approach, if they want it to be seen it's on the telegraph and cwr before their own site.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Feb 20, 2020
  • #43
Nick said:
You can tell the approach, if they want it to be seen it's on the telegraph and cwr before their own site.
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Can someone on twitter ask about the October November December and January minutes and whether they have had a reply to their questions to wasps yet? Have asked cj who thought they had been published. I would love the trust to apologise to Sisu for working behind their backs to support a change of ownership and recognise their mistake and over reach of their position as a group of supporters. Things like that make a difference. I think if I met with joy I would apologise for hating her for moving Ccfc to Northampton and risking the club my son and I hoped to enjoy for decades as I did with my dad. That’s how respect and communication works, if someone isn’t listening you don’t just repeat the same statement and shout louder and louder. At some point you change tack
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Feb 20, 2020
  • #44
Found the minutes up to December ignore me
 

shepardo01

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  • Feb 20, 2020
  • #45
Sky Blue Pete said:
Found the minutes up to December ignore me
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If they have all of a sudden been published retrospectively, how do we know they are accurate?
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Feb 20, 2020
  • #46
They don’t say much in reality. Short term aim to get ccfc back in coventry and long term aim to change the ownership of the club. Wow

The silence is deafening from wasps to their email.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Feb 20, 2020
  • #47
shepardo01 said:
If they have all of a sudden been published retrospectively, how do we know they are accurate?
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Don’t think they were late I wasn’t looking in the right place and it was just that the September ones put on twitter on 17/2
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Feb 20, 2020
  • #48
Basically all 3 parties continue to be feckless and to blame each other for the bleeding obvious. The insects are the obstacle and it is disingenuous to pretend otherwise.
 
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usskyblue

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  • Feb 20, 2020
  • #49
Sky Blue Pete said:
Don’t think they were late I wasn’t looking in the right place and it was just that the September ones put on twitter on 17/2
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Pretty sure they hadn’t put minutes up for around a year. I think they put them up when it was called out recently.

The Trust are no different today than they were.

Posting minutes and mentioning the indemnity (in a totally non effective way) is them doing the the bare fucking minimum. Throwing shade about ‘legals’ is another clue.

They have an agenda. And going after Wasps isn’t it.
 
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Frostie

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  • Feb 20, 2020
  • #50
They've only been posted in last few days, I chased CJ on Twitter about it.
Curiously I notice there are some missing - April, May, June, September.
Not had time to read through but from what Pete says there's little of interest?
 
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olderskyblue

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 21, 2020
  • #51
Frostie said:
"Wasps demanded a further agreement to be signed both by the Football Club and SISU. This agreement introduced conditions that would unreasonably restrict the Club and SISU’s basic legal rights and would commit the Club and SISU to underwrite Wasps’ costs and any future damages."

NEWS: Statement issued by Coventry City Owners SISU following groundshare announcement
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That's SISU's interpretation. We just don't know the details
 
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usskyblue

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  • Feb 21, 2020
  • #52
olderskyblue said:
That's SISU's interpretation. We just don't know the details
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The fact that the indemnity is shrouded in mystery is bizarre. SISU’s statement is as open and descriptive as anyone’s been regarding it...and that’s not saying much.

The common denominator is certain entities haven’t even wanted to acknowledge it. Wasps, The Trust (up until the ineffective mention today) or the local media.

Now that little collection of parties all have connections don’t they...

*Hoffman’s takeover bid (that SISU claimed involved Wasps) which was backed by the Trust. *The Trust and their media connections (Conn).
*Hoffman, a close personal friend of Linnell.

Whatever this indemnity is about, isn’t it interesting why the above parties have huge issues talking about it?
 
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skyblue025

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  • Feb 21, 2020
  • #53
A small step forward that in the great scheme of things means very little. EU need to pull their finger out and get a ruling done. We might get an idea then if the end is in sight. (Subject to appeal obviously)
 
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PurpleBin

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  • Feb 21, 2020
  • #54
The Trust are open to reform. They're open to having a sit down and discussing the way forward. Would 3 or 4 people be willing to put themselves forward for a meeting with the Trust and forming some sort partnership so it's not the trust but a general group of City fans together?
 

Flying Fokker

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 21, 2020
  • #55
Jcap said:
Why would it have to be inside the boundary - Binley Woods, Baginton, other sites are on the edge of the City and would be fine for 99% of fans surely?
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I think it’s better although it makes sense to be near good egress points on the current road network.
Maybe car park C is an option? That’s if this court case goes against SISU. Then it will be years of further wrangling anyway. The Jimmy Hill era fans will be long gone and city will be homeless still. You won’t get many dragging their kids to game either.

on the bright side. I’ll be In my seventies remembering the good old days at Highfield Road. Driving a crossover electric golf buggy, going to the gym and watching a hologram of my favourite female antiques road trip expert...oh...the possibilities are endless.
Back to the stadium now. Where were we?
 
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PurpleBin

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  • Feb 21, 2020
  • #56
For me, it's starting to look like whatever the Trust say or do it gets jumped on. They can't do wrong for right.

So in that, who is willing to sit down with them and plan a way foward suiting all parties? I'm half interested but I think there are people probably far more qualified than me on the facts (I didnt even attend games for a number of years..not sure if that would be an issue) and I know I'd struggle to get to meetings so wouldn't want to half arse it.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Feb 21, 2020
  • #57
It's more about what the trust don't say. This isn't a new thing, it's been going on years.

They have had to be prompted to publish minutes or mention the indemnity. They had to be hassled for a year about their blokes behaviour on social media after cj was telling me how wrong I was and that he wouldn't do that.

If the trust really are willing to listen then great, it's just that its been the same cycle for years now.
 
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PurpleBin

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  • Feb 21, 2020
  • #58
Nick said:
It's more about what the trust don't say. This isn't a new thing, it's been going on years.

They have had to be prompted to publish minutes or mention the indemnity. They had to be hassled for a year about their blokes behaviour on social media after cj was telling me how wrong I was and that he wouldn't do that.

If the trust really are willing to listen then great, it's just that its been the same cycle for years now.
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They're open to sitting down and discussing how it can all be improved though. Would you sit down with them Nick? Got to be worth a shot? Nothing to lose?
 

Nick

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  • Feb 21, 2020
  • #59
PurpleBin said:
They're open to sitting down and discussing how it can all be improved though. Would you sit down with them Nick? Got to be worth a shot? Nothing to lose?
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If they show signs of actually meaning it and would take things on board.

Again, this is something that has gone round and round for years. It occurs when they get questioned.

Have a look through cjs threads asking for ideas and feedback and then see how much is implemented.
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 21, 2020
  • #60
PurpleBin said:
The Trust are open to reform. They're open to having a sit down and discussing the way forward. Would 3 or 4 people be willing to put themselves forward for a meeting with the Trust and forming some sort partnership so it's not the trust but a general group of City fans together?
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I’m certain at least that many have been talking since our statement.
 
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Covkid1968#

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  • Feb 21, 2020
  • #61
PurpleBin said:
They're open to sitting down and discussing how it can all be improved though. Would you sit down with them Nick? Got to be worth a shot? Nothing to lose?
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They are portrayed as a bit secretive and sinister. Moz had always seemed sound

They certainly lost their way over their relationship with Wasps and their efforts have been pretty poor and ineffective in recent years, but I think sitting down and talking can only lead to good things.

There was some effort to get SBT representation on their board... can’t recall what the outcome was But I don’t think it went anywhere. ‍
 
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PurpleBin

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  • Feb 21, 2020
  • #62
Nick said:
If they show signs of actually meaning it and would take things on board.

Again, this is something that has gone round and round for years. It occurs when they get questioned.

Have a look through cjs threads asking for ideas and feedback and then see how much is implemented.
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I hear you, genuinely. Still think it's different now...
 
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PurpleBin

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  • Feb 21, 2020
  • #63
Sky Blue Pete said:
I’m certain at least that many have been talking since our statement.
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Definitely. There have been signs of progression.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Feb 21, 2020
  • #64
PurpleBin said:
I hear you, genuinely. Still think it's different now...
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Hopefully it will be!
 
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  • Feb 21, 2020
  • #65
Covkid1968# said:
There was some effort to get SBT representation on their board... can’t recall what the outcome was But I don’t think it went anywhere. ‍
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Nobody could be arsed
 
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Covstu

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  • Feb 21, 2020
  • #66
PurpleBin said:
I hear you, genuinely. Still think it's different now...
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But it’s about credibility isn’t it? Jump into bed with wasps for years then all of a sudden try band get the fans onside. I have not seen many people that have anything positive to say about them?

This statement feels a bit ‘look at me!’ And attention seeking, the content is ok but what’s it going to do. If it stated we are in discussions with all parties in making this happen I would be more confident of their ability to represent the fan base. Sending out bland statements without any substance behind it won’t pressure anyone to make decisions about returning to Coventry.
 

shmmeee

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  • Feb 21, 2020
  • #67
Covstu said:
But it’s about credibility isn’t it? Jump into bed with wasps for years then all of a sudden try band get the fans onside. I have not seen many people that have anything positive to say about them?

This statement feels a bit ‘look at me!’ And attention seeking, the content is ok but what’s it going to do. If it stated we are in discussions with all parties in making this happen I would be more confident of their ability to represent the fan base. Sending out bland statements without any substance behind it won’t pressure anyone to make decisions about returning to Coventry.
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Aren’t all statements attention seeking? Isn’t the the point of statements?
 
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Covstu

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  • Feb 21, 2020
  • #68
shmmeee said:
Aren’t all statements attention seeking? Isn’t the the point of statements?
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Depends on what they are designed for and it’s intended purpose, we are in a very potentially successful season and have probably heard from SBT about 3 times over this period (if that), just seems a strange time to pipe up with the same obvious statements
 
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PurpleBin

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  • Feb 21, 2020
  • #69
Two options. We either stay here, continue to complain about everything they do (rightly or wrongly) argue amongst ourselves or we sit with them and open something up.

Even if one of us sat with them, joined their board and then acted as the go between the two SBTs...
 

matesx

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 21, 2020
  • #70
"EU need to pull their finger out and get a ruling done"


What the hell takes so long??? Must be a year now?
 
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