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Trust: 6 Local Authorities say no discussions. Rugby say no. (1 Viewer)

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The Gentleman

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  • Jan 8, 2014
  • #176
I wonder what Sisu/Otium will think when they see that there will probably more Cov fans watching a news alert from CET than go and watch the team at Sixfields
 

Flying Fokker

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 8, 2014
  • #177
That would be my guess because the access point could be the Hill Top side as well.
http://www.warwickshire.gov.uk/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Nuneaton_Bedworth-Map.pdf
 
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samccov1987

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 8, 2014
  • #178
Bedworth would make sense, In need of regeneration, outside coventry but only just, houses a large number of city fans and has train station. The gypsy lane site is right next to the proposed bermuda park station.
The council may struggle to decline a stadium, investment in an area targeted for commercial growth. Could sisu build a platform in return for planning permission - interestingly enough wasn't this byngs area of expertise.
 

Flying Fokker

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 8, 2014
  • #179
http://www.openplan.org.uk/ H98 is nearest but left side of the imprint.
 
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RoboCCFC90

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 8, 2014
  • #180
samccov1987 said:
Bedworth would make sense, In need of regeneration, outside coventry but only just, houses a large number of city fans and has train station. The gypsy lane site is right next to the proposed bermuda park station.
The council may struggle to decline a stadium, investment in an area targeted for commercial growth. Could sisu build a platform in return for planning permission - interestingly enough wasn't this byngs area of expertise.
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I know this is speculation but do you remember who Fisher was seen talking to at the game against Gillingham?
 

shmmeee

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  • Jan 8, 2014
  • #181
RoboCCFC90 said:
I know this is speculation but do you remember who Fisher was seen talking to at the game against Gillingham?
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I'm guessing it was Byng. I think it's been fairly obvious Byng went over to the dark side post admin. I expect he's Joy's exit strategy once she can add some value. Let her take the stick, he rides in as saviour.
 
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henry the wasp

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 8, 2014
  • #182
samccov1987 said:
Bedworth would make sense, In need of regeneration, outside coventry but only just, houses a large number of city fans and has train station. The gypsy lane site is right next to the proposed bermuda park station.
The council may struggle to decline a stadium, investment in an area targeted for commercial growth. Could sisu build a platform in return for planning permission - interestingly enough wasn't this byngs area of expertise.
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Gypsy lane is treacle town. Would be a lot of unhappy boro fans.
 
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RoboCCFC90

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  • Jan 8, 2014
  • #183
shmmeee said:
I'm guessing it was Byng. I think it's been fairly obvious Byng went over to the dark side post admin. I expect he's Joy's exit strategy once she can add some value. Let her take the stick, he rides in as saviour.
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It was indeed Mr Byng..
 

samccov1987

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  • Jan 8, 2014
  • #184
Only just though, the griff is nearer bedrocks collycroft heartland than nuneaton town centre.

Only speculating buts it's always seemed more likely to be around bedworth due to the lack of distinguishable borders with cov and t residents aren't as prim and proper as somewhere like Brandon or warwick uni.
 
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valiant15

New Member
  • Jan 8, 2014
  • #185
Bedworth&Nuneaton aren't Coventry are they?

Its no good saying its Bedworth itll do. What a defeatist attitude ffs.

Wake up people,we're possibly on the verge here of NEVER seeing a ccfc game in the city of Coventry again.
 
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Broken Hearted Sky Blue

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  • Jan 8, 2014
  • #186
RFC said:
If it's not happening why would the high profile Chair Person of the Coventry Chamber of Commerce Chair the CCFC Stadium Forum??????????
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That is a very good question why would someone supposidly representing business interests in Coventry be supporting a business interest(new Stadium) outside Coventry to the detriment of businnesses in Coventry:facepalm:
 

samccov1987

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 8, 2014
  • #187
It's coventry and warwickshire chamber of commerce. Can see her justifying it by saying it will bring investment to the deprived north of the county.
 
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Broken Hearted Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 8, 2014
  • #188
samccov1987 said:
It's coventry and warwickshire chamber of commerce. Can see her justifying it by saying it will bring investment to the deprived north of the county.
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I know it is however I was following RFCs lead and was waiting for a reply you shouldn't have pointed it out :facepalm:
 
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henry the wasp

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  • Jan 8, 2014
  • #189
RoboCCFC90 said:
Next to the Quarry.. That's if you can call it that.
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Not following you? Are you saying it is a small quarry?
 
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wingy

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 8, 2014
  • #190
No coincidence with Todays breaking story for 6000 new homes around Clifton on Dunsmore,obviously under Rugby ,but they can lie also ,Can't they,or play around with timings .
 

Flying Fokker

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 8, 2014
  • #191
http://www.bing.com/maps/#Y3A9NTIuMjczMDU2fi0xLjU4OTcyMiZsdmw9NiZzdHk9ciZlbz0wJnE9Q1YxMCUyNTIwN1BI
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 8, 2014
  • #192
If the CET has an exclusive i would just like to thank the Trust for pushing sisu into a corner meaning they have to tell us all what's going on. Assuming the CET exclusive is about either a new ground or development with the ricoh, off course.

Good job well done. Not bad for donkey's
 
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Jack Griffin

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  • Jan 8, 2014
  • #193
Flying Fokker said:
http://www.openplan.org.uk/ H98 is nearest but left side of the imprint.
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Earmarked for housing?
 
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BinleyBlue

New Member
  • Jan 8, 2014
  • #194
samccov1987 said:
It's coventry and warwickshire chamber of commerce. Can see her justifying it by saying it will bring investment to the deprived north of the county.
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OK, suspending the obvious disbelief for a minute, what "investment" might a stadium bring? Yes, construction costs with some temporary building etc jobs, erecting a stadium almost within sight of a bigger one. But when it is finished, what jobs? CCFC playing and off-field staff, previously at the Ricoh and currently in temporary accommodation plus stewards, catering staff, etc. In other words pretty much the same sort of jobs that were at the Ricoh (minus the Casino, Hotel, etc) but in smaller numbers to serve a much smaller stadium. Within just a few years, the development would have brought about a reduction in employment in the "North Coventry Area." Not much economic benefit there.

Of course, there might (again, if you believe the fantasy) be retail, leisure and other jobs but any such developments would draw trade from similar businesses in the surrounding towns. The customer population would have no new money to spend so any jobs would at best be relocated from other parts of Bedworth and Nuneaton plus Coventry. Oh and a "Community Hub" providing public services, paid for by whom during the most massive cuts in public spending since the 1930s?

So, whatever is said about the benefits of investment, it seems to me they would be an illusion.
 
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RoboCCFC90

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  • Jan 8, 2014
  • #195
henry the wasp said:
Not following you? Are you saying it is a small quarry?
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I am saying that.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 8, 2014
  • #196
wingy said:
No coincidence with Todays breaking story for 6000 new homes around Clifton on Dunsmore,obviously under Rugby ,but they can lie also ,Can't they,or play around with timings .
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The 6000 homes is hardly news in rugby. Its been talked about for at least 20years that I know of. Its what's referred to locally as rugby new town and will be on the old radio station site.
 
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wingy

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  • Jan 8, 2014
  • #197
skybluetony176 said:
The 6000 homes is hardly news in rugby. Its been talked about for at least 20years that I know of. Its what's referred to locally as rugby new town and will be on the old radio station site.
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Down the A5 by the old Radio Station .
 

Flying Fokker

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  • Jan 8, 2014
  • #198
http://www.bing.com/maps/#Y3A9NTIuMjczMDU2fi0xLjU4OTcyMiZsdmw9NiZzdHk9ciZlbz0wJnE9Q1YxMCUyNTIwN1BI

CV10 7PH birds eye view tab
 
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Broken Hearted Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 8, 2014
  • #199
skybluetony176 said:
If the CET has an exclusive i would just like to thank the Trust for pushing sisu into a corner meaning they have to tell us all what's going on. Assuming the CET exclusive is about either a new ground or development with the ricoh, off course.

Good job well done. Not bad for donkey's;-)
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Wait till the lions get going:thinking about:
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 8, 2014
  • #200
Opposite Bermuda Park?

Not Cov for me personally. I'd call it Nuneaton. And for that reason, I'm out.

Would be ridiculous, but I suppose you could claim all the accessibility of the Ricoh and we all know how popular that is!
 

samccov1987

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 8, 2014
  • #201
BinleyBlue said:
OK, suspending the obvious disbelief for a minute, what "investment" might a stadium bring? Yes, construction costs with some temporary building etc jobs, erecting a stadium almost within sight of a bigger one. But when it is finished, what jobs? CCFC playing and off-field staff, previously at the Ricoh and currently in temporary accommodation plus stewards, catering staff, etc. In other words pretty much the same sort of jobs that were at the Ricoh (minus the Casino, Hotel, etc) but in smaller numbers to serve a much smaller stadium. Within just a few years, the development would have brought about a reduction in employment in the "North Coventry Area." Not much economic benefit there.

Of course, there might (again, if you believe the fantasy) be retail, leisure and other jobs but any such developments would draw trade from similar businesses in the surrounding towns. The customer population would have no new money to spend so any jobs would at best be relocated from other parts of Bedworth and Nuneaton plus Coventry. Oh and a "Community Hub" providing public services, paid for by whom during the most massive cuts in public spending since the 1930s?

So, whatever is said about the benefits of investment, it seems to me they would be an illusion.
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Agree with you there but that's how people sell these sort of developments. The uk in general struggles to create sustainable well paid employment so warehouse/retail jobs are always seen as a win by government.

Cov city centre is a prime example, its dying whilst the council allow retail development out of town at Central six, arena park and the new binley development. How many 'new' jobs have these really created?

Whether sisu really build the stadium is another matter but buying land and getting planning permission all cranks up the pressure on acl/ccc to sell the ricoh. They can then sell the land on again with outline planning permission for more than they brought it.
 
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Jack Griffin

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  • Jan 8, 2014
  • #202
Flying Fokker said:
http://www.bing.com/maps/#Y3A9NTIuMjczMDU2fi0xLjU4OTcyMiZsdmw9NiZzdHk9ciZlbz0wJnE9Q1YxMCUyNTIwN1BI

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8 miles from Coventry, that isn't really in the Coventry area as far as I'm concerned.
 

bigfatronssba

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  • Jan 8, 2014
  • #203
Flying Fokker said:
http://www.bing.com/maps/#Y3A9NTIuMjczMDU2fi0xLjU4OTcyMiZsdmw9NiZzdHk9ciZlbz0wJnE9Q1YxMCUyNTIwN1BI

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Looks like a greenbelt site.

Unlikely a football stadium would be granted planning permission there.
 

skybluetony176

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  • Jan 8, 2014
  • #204
wingy said:
Down the A5 by the old Radio Station .
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Exactly.
 

ricohroar

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 8, 2014
  • #205
Closer to city centre than the Ricoh said Fisher, he wouldn't lye to us surely....fat fucking twat
 

ccfcway

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 8, 2014
  • #206
Its going to be a long 75 mins isnt it !
 
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Jack Griffin

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  • Jan 8, 2014
  • #207
ricohroar said:
Closer to city centre than the Ricoh said Fisher, he wouldn't lye to us surely....fat fucking twat
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No mate, he has said something about 8 to 9 miles since the early rhetoric last summer, this is what Fisher said on 30th Oct.
Club want to have a stadium consultation group – made up of fans – who work with the club to ensure new stadium meets wants and needs of fans as much as possible. What is critical is to get the site right. Ideally it will be a large site as the plan is to have the academy next to the stadium. It has to be within 8 miles of Earl Street, although if an absolutely perfect site is found at say 9 miles then he wouldn’t expect the league to block it.
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http://gmkonline.com/index.php?page=forum&forum_id=6&thread_id=35141
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 8, 2014
  • #208
Simon Gilbert said:
Simon Gilbert ‏@TheSimonGilbert2h
@davidTrussler the @TheSkyBlueTrust's work complements work we have been doing perfectly.
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Interesting, sounds like they're saying the info from the Trust is accurate and that the story is CT's own work (rather than say a Sisu press release).
 

blueflint

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 8, 2014
  • #209
AndreasB said:
Thats not what the meeting is about. Im sure it will come up. I will listen to their answer and make my mind up accordingly.I will post my considered opinion here after the meeting. You have already done so. Not much point in you wanting to know their response is there?
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thought the meeting was to discuss the make up of the committee to oversee stadium development
 

sky blue john

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 8, 2014
  • #210
I don't understand why the potential locations are a secret anyway ????
Are there other stadium developers also looking for land in the Coventry area that they are in competition with ????
 
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