Their training/rules say not to shoot someone in a vehicle unless they are posing a threat with weapons other than the vehicle itself. Which clearly was not the case here.
Like I say there’s a video of the angle in front of the car not behind and the agent is clearly in front of the carTheir training/rules say not to shoot someone in a vehicle unless they are posing a threat with weapons other than the vehicle itself. Which clearly was not the case here.
such a gotcha!Wow.
I consider your assessment is balanced & likely accurate.I think both panicked. The problem is if you’re an agent of the government you should be trained not to.
Not sure why he had his gun out in the first place (there was no apparent threat at the time), not sure why she ignored requests to get out of the vehicle and then accelerated with him in front of the vehicle.
You just don’t fuck about with law enforcement in America though and this just ended up being a sad totally avoidable tragedy
That’s what I said. I don’t think he had any need/reason to have his gun out in the first place and then probably panicked once she accelerated (and she might well have panicked and accelerated when he pulled out the gun)
I know, wasn't disagreeing with you!
If there are no consequences for law enforcement acting in this way then it doesn’t seem avoidable to me at all.You just don’t fuck about with law enforcement in America though and this just ended up being a sad totally avoidable tragedy
She was given instructions to both get out of the car and to drive away.I think both panicked. The problem is if you’re an agent of the government you should be trained not to.
Not sure why he had his gun out in the first place (there was no apparent threat at the time), not sure why she ignored requests to get out of the vehicle and then accelerated with him in front of the vehicle.
You just don’t fuck about with law enforcement in America though and this just ended up being a sad totally avoidable tragedy
Think he means the administration caused it and the person pulling the trigger was but an actor on their stageIf there are no consequences for law enforcement acting in this way then it doesn’t seem avoidable to me at all.
When I worked there the advice I received was to keep your hands visible and away from your body if ever stopped by law enforcement.You just don’t fuck about with law enforcement in America though and this just ended up being a sad totally avoidable tragedy
Think he means the administration caused it and the person pulling the trigger was but an actor on their stage
ICE aren’t the police. They’re masked goons running around causing trouble where they aren’t wanted.Did he mean that?
The amount of police killings in the US over the last 10 years hasn’t changed much. It’s around 3 every day - 1,000 a year
ICE aren’t the police. They’re masked goons running around causing trouble where they aren’t wanted.
Doesn’t look like it.They aren’t included in the statistics?
If there are no consequences for law enforcement acting in this way then it doesn’t seem avoidable to me at all.
Think he means the administration caused it and the person pulling the trigger was but an actor on their stage
I was waiting for one of the Trumpers to post that video as justification, knew it was coming.
It changes nothing. In fact, if anything it makes it worse for the officer.
She says 'I'm not mad at you'
He puts three bullets in her face and calls her a 'fucking bitch'
Absolute c**t, he'll get away with it of course but it's murder.
Who is a Trumper? Also, who is posting it as a justification?
Let’s fire up the gattling guns and retake half of Africa if empire building is back ‘in’ again.The irony...
I would trust Donald to look after Greenland more than NATO.Does anyone still believe that Trump is a president of piece? FIFA aside.
His international crimes using the military are stacking up and his latest bullshit about needing Greenland to protect it from Russia and China is such bullshit. Greenland is an under NATO protection, if he wants to protect it from Russia and China all he has to do is stick to the USA’s NATO commitments. At the end of the day he’s Putins man (the heroes welcome he gave him is all the evidence you need of that) and Putin wants the breakup of NATO. Putins wish is Trump’s command and that is all Trump is setting out to do under a false pretence.
I wouldn't trust Trump to close the door behind him as he leaves a room.I would trust Donald to look after Greenland more than NATO.
Based on what exactly?I would trust Donald to look after Greenland more than NATO.
He’s a diplomatic nightmare. How do you handle him? They’ve got to try an put him off without getting on his bad side and/or end NATO.The approach European and NATO leaders have taken toward him has failed spectacularly.
I genuinely think he'd respond better to someone actually standing up to him more aggressively. They've all been fawning over him, something he's probably taken as a sign of weakness; that's not including calling him "daddy", which was just weird.He’s a diplomatic nightmare. How do you handle him? They’ve got to try an put him off without getting on his bad side and/or end NATO.
Mexico’s leader stood up to him and he backed off, the same with Mark Carney.I genuinely think he'd respond better to someone actually standing up to him more aggressively. They've all been fawning over him, something he's probably taken as a sign of weakness; that's not including calling him "daddy", which was just weird.
Saved Venezuela from who exactly? How much do you expect the average Venezuelian life to improve now? Who’s going to oversee that and how are they going to achieve it?The man who singlehandedly saved Venezuela, or a group of countries whove never actually sorted anything and only get loud in packs hmmmm
It looks like she’s looking over her shoulder to reverse then goes to move forwards and he’s walked in front of the car as she looks forwards. He shoots immediately causing her to involuntarily accelerate harder until the car crashes.This isn’t the most illuminating another shows her driving straight at the person
Now the situation escalated completely unnecessarily
He didn’t need to stand in front of the car
Even with the car moving he gets out of the way and so no shots are necessary
Tragic waste of life that was bound to happen and will happen again because the actions of the trump immigration policy.
From the angle of where she is headed I think it’ will be arguable in law that he feared for his life nd so shot the person
Again that said the fuckin bitch comment is really bad
Maybe, the risk is he retaliates or it’s used as justification for him to take whatever action he wanted to do anyway.I genuinely think he'd respond better to someone actually standing up to him more aggressively. They've all been fawning over him, something he's probably taken as a sign of weakness; that's not including calling him "daddy", which was just weird.
He’s currently threatening to attack a fellow NATO member; it’s clearly not working.Maybe, the risk is he retaliates or it’s used as justification for him to take whatever action he wanted to do anyway.
Grown up politics.He’s currently threatening to attack a fellow NATO member; it’s clearly not working.
Didn’t he threaten to bomb Mexico earlier today/late last night.Mexico’s leader stood up to him and he backed off, the same with Mark Carney.
Yea that’s fair I guess my point is I’m not sure being firm will work and could backfire. The examples provided show it can work but currently it feels like the stakes are higher and the situation more delicate.He’s currently threatening to attack a fellow NATO member; it’s clearly not working.
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