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Trump is my favourite comedian of the year already (11 Viewers)

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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Nov 4, 2020
  • #1,331
Mucca Mad Boys said:
Banning isn’t a good idea. But, people should not generally do politics on social media. It’s toxic.

It also builds echo chambers and amplifies the divisions between party support/policy positions.

Hence, polarisation between Democrats and Republicans in the USA and between Remain and Leave in the UK.
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I agree it's a toxic environment on social media, but at the same time if you try and do things 'properly' through official channels you get nowhere, Good ideas get shouted down or just ignored because it doesn't fit in with what the machinery want so arguably if you want to get an idea out there into the public domain you're probably far more likely to do so via media like twitter. At least then it's out there for discussion and the public can learn of it rather than that decision being made by a small group of individuals in a party set-up with ideologies and very narrow experiences.

Trouble is rather than ideas you tend to get muck-racking and mud-slinging.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Nov 4, 2020
  • #1,332
I knew this thread'd be fun...
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Nov 4, 2020
  • #1,333
David O'Day said:
I haven't predicted a landslide - I said it looked like Biden would win easily. As I said to him a Landslide is a double digit PV lead and Biden wasn't going to get that
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I took the 'Biden would win easily' as a landslide. You were still wrong though - assuming he does win (which is far from certain) he hasn't done so easily.
 

David O'Day

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  • Nov 4, 2020
  • #1,334
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
I took the 'Biden would win easily' as a landslide. You were still wrong though - assuming he does win (which is far from certain) he hasn't done so easily.
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I was relaying the information at hand. I've also all the way along said there was a change of a Trump win.
 

Grendel

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  • Nov 4, 2020
  • #1,335
David O'Day said:
Looking at the state by state polling on 538 there is surely no way back for Trump now. It's got to the stage where he could even lose Georgia.
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No way back apparently
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 4, 2020
  • #1,336
Kenny Jacketts bin man is selectively picking posts again.
 
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Grendel

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  • Nov 4, 2020
  • #1,337
David O'Day said:
But that doesn't matter the political demographics of the USA have realigned. The Rust Belt states don't really matter in who wins the US election anymore.

In the "battleground" states Biden is way ahead. Trump has tanked with the independent voters and you can't win them as all you have is your base then.

Biden is 7 points clear in places Pennsylvania, Almost 5 points up in florida and many more. Even Texas is a toss up now.

People act like Trump won in a Landslide in 2016 when in reality if less than 100k hand of voted differently in a country of 100 million clinton is president.
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Oops
 

David O'Day

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  • Nov 4, 2020
  • #1,338
 

Philosoraptor

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  • Nov 4, 2020
  • #1,339
shmmeee said:
No. It’s not fucking X Factor. It’s running a country. It’s not a job for amateurs. As our government is handily showing.

Make Competence Cool Again!
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Well you definitely can see the incompetence in some former Labour leaders in Coventry.

If you ever want to discuss these things I am happy to make a thread and let rip.
 
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David O'Day

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  • Nov 4, 2020
  • #1,340
What same Jim Gateman is wrong again
 

Evo1883

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  • Nov 4, 2020
  • #1,341
Just read both candidates will surpass Obamas voting numbers of 2008..
 

Grendel

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  • Nov 4, 2020
  • #1,342
Evo1883 said:
Just read both candidates will surpass Obamas voting numbers of 2008..
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Which is the Trump factor both ways
 
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Evo1883

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  • Nov 4, 2020
  • #1,343
Grendel said:
Which is the Trump factor both ways
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Took record numbers to beat him, which in itself is mental
 

Liquid Gold

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  • Nov 4, 2020
  • #1,344
Just woke up, so Trump has gone dictatory and we're none the wiser.

I see the odds have Biden favourite so thanks to Evo for pointing when his odds were longest.

Scraping a win is a travesty for Biden. When will establishment centre left parties (I accept that means different things in different countries) start to accept more of the same isn't popular anymore. Trump, even though he's been in for 4 years, is still seen as an outsider and the system doesn't work at all for millennials, immigrants and POC/BAME people.
 
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Liquid Gold

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  • Nov 4, 2020
  • #1,345
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
I would rather have Kanye than either of them probably, but I knew the polls were bullshit.

As Evo says, they seem to be a propaganda tool. They should probably just scrap them.
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Even though I agree with you on basically 0 to do with politics I'd get behind this. Fuck the polls (not the Poles though)
 
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Evo1883

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  • Nov 4, 2020
  • #1,346
Liquid Gold said:
Just woke up, so Trump has gone dictatory and we're none the wiser.

I see the odds have Biden favourite so thanks to Evo for pointing when his odds were longest.

Scraping a win is a travesty for Biden. When will establishment centre left parties (I accept that means different things in different countries) start to accept more of the same isn't popular anymore. Trump, even though he's been in for 4 years, is still seen as an outsider and the system doesn't work at all for millennials, immigrants and POC/BAME people.
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Did you back him? It's safe to say it was too close for me to put money on
 
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djr8369

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  • Nov 4, 2020
  • #1,347
Evo1883 said:
I think it's time all of us in general change the way we view or believe polling... From brexit, to both US elections and even I some way the last GE before the exit polls... They are just not remotely correct anymore


They appear to be propoganda tools these days
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I don’t get the idea that they are propaganda tools and the media are in on it. What would be the objective? To make dem voters feel secure and depress the vote? The boring truth is there are errors because people don’t answer truthfully, even in online polls because they are ashamed to admit they will vote for Trump.
 

Liquid Gold

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  • Nov 4, 2020
  • #1,348
Evo1883 said:
Did you back him? It's safe to say it was too close for me to put money on
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I've always had a feeling he'd sneak it so jumped £5 when the odds were longest.
 

Philosoraptor

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  • Nov 4, 2020
  • #1,349
It does seem like Trump and Biden have changed places in the betting odds. Now favouring Biden but can still go any way.

Trump was 1-3 to win earlier in average odds whilst Biden was doing good to get even money.

What a change a few hours makes.

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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Nov 4, 2020
  • #1,350
Who wins if Biden gets

Arizona
Nevada
Wisconsin
Michigan
And Maine

Not that he will necessarily of course
 
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Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Nov 4, 2020
  • #1,351
Sky Blue Pete said:
Who wins if Biden gets

Arizona
Nevada
Wisconsin
Michigan
And Maine

Not that he will necessarily of course
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If he gets all 5, it’s game, set and match to Biden.

Trump needs Pennsylvania to stand any chance of winning. On top of that, he needs Alaska, Georgia, North Carolina, and one of Michigan or Wisconsin to win.
 

Liquid Gold

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  • Nov 4, 2020
  • #1,352
Sky Blue Pete said:
Who wins if Biden gets

Arizona
Nevada
Wisconsin
Michigan
And Maine

Not that he will necessarily of course
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Win 271 to 267

Blank 2020 Electoral Map - 270toWin

2020 electoral map that starts at 0-0, with all states shown as undecided.
www.270towin.com
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Nov 4, 2020
  • #1,353
Liquid Gold said:
Win 271 to 267

Blank 2020 Electoral Map - 270toWin

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Would you believe it?? So like west wing series 7 when Santos wins with Nevada
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Nov 4, 2020
  • #1,354
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
If either loses there will be tantrums.

If Biden loses there will be riots.
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I’d be more concerned about the Trump supporting militias who seem to enjoy protesting and driving around with guns, personally.
 

tisza

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  • Nov 4, 2020
  • #1,355
Liquid Gold said:
Win 271 to 267

Blank 2020 Electoral Map - 270toWin

2020 electoral map that starts at 0-0, with all states shown as undecided.
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Seems quite a likely result and (if Trump does get Pennsylvania to reach 267) get ready for all sorts of legal shenanigans
 
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djr8369

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  • Nov 4, 2020
  • #1,356
Sick Boy said:
I’d be more concerned about the Trump supporting militias who seem to enjoy protesting and driving around with guns, personally.
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No we have to equate that with people protesting hundreds of years of racial inequality, being murdered by public servants and a huge wealth divide and try and pretend it’s the same.
 

Esoterica

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  • Nov 4, 2020
  • #1,357
 
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Liquid Gold

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  • Nov 4, 2020
  • #1,358
I think Pennsylvania going Democrat would sort things out. Looking at the map and most of the Trump places have reported but so for Philly is currently 76% to Biden giving him 350,000 results with only 56% reporting. Another 300,000 for Biden and only 90,00 for Trump brings things closer

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Liquid Gold

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  • Nov 4, 2020
  • #1,359
Liquid Gold said:
I think Pennsylvania going Democrat would sort things out. Looking at the map and most of the Trump places have reported but so for Philly is currently 76% to Biden giving him 350,000 results with only 56% reporting. Another 300,000 for Biden and only 90,00 for Trump brings things closer

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Looking at the Georgia looks massively back in play with where the Votes are left to be counted. Atlanta could swing the state.
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Nov 4, 2020
  • #1,360
Sick Boy said:
I’d be more concerned about the Trump supporting militias who seem to enjoy protesting and driving around with guns, personally.
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I wouldn't.

The US has been in meltdown for months and months due to left wing groups ripping cities apart. They pose a significantly higher risk than some hillbillies with weapons, even if they are pricks too.

As I said earlier. All the businesses boarding themselves up are doing so for the former, not the latter.
 
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David O'Day

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  • Nov 4, 2020
  • #1,361
Liquid Gold said:
Looking at the Georgia looks massively back in play with where the Votes are left to be counted. Atlanta could swing the state.
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That's gonna be a tight one
 
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djr8369

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  • Nov 4, 2020
  • #1,362
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Nov 4, 2020
  • #1,363
So out of the 9 states left to declare, what do we think?

This is insane! Great entertainment at least. Like watching a game of football with two teams I'm not bothered about and it has gone to 3-3 in extra time.
 

Ian1779

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  • Nov 4, 2020
  • #1,364
jimmyhillsfanclub said:
Yep....A good start in this country would be to implement a ban on all personal social media output accounts for anyone in a public office, be that MP, PM or local council rep.
Its especially damaging because twitter is, in its basic premise, a media based medium (if that makes sense) but the vast majority of tweeter twats are, frankly, fucking morons.
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I’d start with sacking politicians that intentionally lie.
 
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robbiekeane

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  • Nov 4, 2020
  • #1,365
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
So out of the 9 states left to declare, what do we think?

This is insane! Great entertainment at least. Like watching a game of football with two teams I'm not bothered about and it has gone to 3-3 in extra time.
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Biden has this.
Just look at the Michigan swing since they started counting the postal (democratic) votes.
 
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