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Trump is my favourite comedian of the year already (13 Viewers)

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Sick Boy

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  • Apr 3, 2025
  • #11,096
Mucca Mad Boys said:
If you’re gambling man, put money on the EU issuing more tit for tat retaliatory tariffs in place on the US…
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As it 100% should do.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Apr 3, 2025
  • #11,097
Mucca Mad Boys said:
The governments economic policy should really look to incentivise foreign investment, manufacturing and offer a corporation tax in line with (or lower) than Ireland so companies base themselves here rather than the EU. Not that I’d expect a Labour government to do these things…
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They base themselves in Ireland for the low corporation tax but also access to the EU market, something that the UK can’t provide.
 
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CovValleyBoy

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 3, 2025
  • #11,098
Trump played a blinder. Saw his board too. Reminiscent of the Eurovision song contest.
Well, they are not singing now !!
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Apr 3, 2025
  • #11,099
What exactly have people in the US been liberated from? Paying less money?
 

rondog1973

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 3, 2025
  • #11,100
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
20% on EU.
10% on UK.

Brexit is very divisive. No one can argue this isn't a benifit though. Hopefully it can start paying off. Looking forward to the meltdown and laughing emojis!
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0% on Russia.

On who's behalf is he acting?
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Apr 3, 2025
  • #11,101
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
20% on EU.
10% on UK.

Brexit is very divisive. No one can argue this isn't a benifit though. Hopefully it can start paying off. Looking forward to the meltdown and laughing emojis!
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To be fair, it’s a hell of a long way away from what was promised during the campaign.
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 3, 2025
  • #11,102
Mucca Mad Boys said:
If Trump’s tariffs are long standing, it might actually turn out to be the biggest Brexit dividend. Particularly if we secure a trade deal.

It puts the UK in a unique position to potentially attract US and EU companies to set up in the UK to avoid the other’s retaliatory tariff regimes.

It’s too soon to say either way, mind you.
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The naivety in this statement is staggering. Trump is deliberately orchestrating a worldwide trade war that’s going to be felt in every country in the world regardless of whether they had zero tariffs applied to their goods or slightly smaller tariffs than anyone else. The last time the world was affected by financial decisions in the US it caused a worldwide banking crisis and a global recession. We wouldn’t have escaped the effects on that had we not been in the EU same as won’t escape the effects if Trump hadn’t imposed any tariffs on UK goods at all.
 
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duffer

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 3, 2025
  • #11,103
No tariffs on Russia. Just to make it completely clear whose side Trump is on.

So it's nice and easy for everyone now. Support Trump, support Putin
 
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David O'Day

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  • Apr 3, 2025
  • #11,104
 
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HungarySkyBlue

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 3, 2025
  • #11,105
About to see my tech stocks absolutely plummet thanks to the orange twat.
 
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David O'Day

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  • Apr 3, 2025
  • #11,106


The British Indian Ocean Territory is mostly Diego Garcia which is famously just a US military bases? The Heard And McDonald Islands have no population?

Do any of them have a clue?
 
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Sbarcher

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 3, 2025
  • #11,107
Get ready. We will become his 53rd State after Canada and Greenland.
 
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HungarySkyBlue

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 3, 2025
  • #11,108
David O'Day said:
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The British Indian Ocean Territory is mostly Diego Garcia which is famously just a US military bases? The Heard And McDonald Islands have no population?

Do any of them have a clue?
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Svalbard got me, I'm sure I read they have more polar bears than actual people .
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 3, 2025
  • #11,109
Not getting lots of coverage, but full credit to Trump in at last uniting these previously sworn enemies against the US.

This is one of America’s most shocking economic defeats in 40 years

Donald Trump’s intimidation tactics risk leaving Americans poorer and more isolated
www.telegraph.co.uk
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 3, 2025
  • #11,110




CovValleyBoy said:
Trump played a blinder. Saw his board too. Reminiscent of the Eurovision song contest.
Well, they are not singing now !!
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Not sure it's the win you think it is.

 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 3, 2025
  • #11,111
Mucca Mad Boys said:
Preface: I was a Remainer and advocate for a 2nd referendum.

Brexit has happened and we’re 5 years into a project that’s readjusting from a 50 year status quo. A few people on here and social media think rejoining is this magic thing that will cure Britain’s ills. It’s not and if it was, why are all the major EU economies suffering from more or less the same issues as us?

Tangent aside and back to the point you made, we’re in a position to take advantage of emerging markets with CPTPP and a USA trade agreement would be significant too so the long term outlook for the UK, from an international trade perspective could be quite positive. There are obviously other issues we need to address as a country, mind you.

The governments economic policy should really look to incentivise foreign investment, manufacturing and offer a corporation tax in line with (or lower) than Ireland so companies base themselves here rather than the EU. Not that I’d expect a Labour government to do these things…
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Trade is geographical that’s all there is to it. Everything else is fart sniffing and wish casting. Ireland is part of the EU, basing yourself here for the tax would introduce a ton of legal and regulatory costs that would outweigh any benefit.
 

jordan210

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 3, 2025
  • #11,112
Bollocks should not have paid off a holiday I have in dollars couple of weeks when the pound was looking shaky.
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 3, 2025
  • #11,113
For all the talk of sleepy Joe being senile, this idiot is no better


 
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PVA

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  • Apr 3, 2025
  • #11,114
HungarySkyBlue said:
About to see my tech stocks absolutely plummet thanks to the orange twat.
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I daren't look at my stocks and shares ISA.
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 3, 2025
  • #11,115
Sick Boy said:
As it 100% should do.
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That's no good. Trump will just retaliate with eleventy billion percent tariffs, back.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 3, 2025
  • #11,116
PVA said:
I daren't look at my stocks and shares ISA.
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Easier to have no disposable income for such frivolities as that.
 
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HungarySkyBlue

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 3, 2025
  • #11,117
PVA said:
I daren't look at my stocks and shares ISA.
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Most of mine are invested in Europe and have lost some %, but we have about 25k euro in her bank "investment scheme" and it's all in American tech since trump took charge it already lost 1000 euro, expecting it to drop massively now.
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 3, 2025
  • #11,118
Pre-market
DOW: -2.37%
S&P: -2.88%
NASDAQ: - 3.88%

Happy Liberation Day folks

 
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 3, 2025
  • #11,119
Sick Boy said:
To be fair, it’s a hell of a long way away from what was promised during the campaign.
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Still, at least independence is now showing us some benifit. We got a much better tariff than the EU.

Put THAT on the side of a bus!
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 3, 2025
  • #11,120
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
Still, at least independence is now showing us some benifit. We got a much better tariff than the EU.

Put THAT on the side of a bus!
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How were we not an independent nation before?
 

Mucca Mad Boys

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 3, 2025
  • #11,121
shmmeee said:
Trade is geographical that’s all there is to it. Everything else is fart sniffing and wish casting. Ireland is part of the EU, basing yourself here for the tax would introduce a ton of legal and regulatory costs that would outweigh any benefit.
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This is an over simplification. Our single biggest trade partner is the US and has been for a while and our trade with the EU was declining steadily from the 1990s. Take a look at where most of the products in your house were produced, it’s more likely to manufactured in China, Vietnam, Bangladesh and India than the EU or even the USA. You’re also not accounting for the decline of trade we had with other Commonwealth nations (Australia and NZ) post-joining the European single market.

For tax purposes you need registrations in the UK and EU when you get to a certain size for VAT and corporation tax anyway. My point is that the government needs to take the initiative and encourage businesses to set up their manufacturing bases to take advantage of our unique position.

For example, the UK and EU has a FTA. So a US company could manufacture a car in the UK using ‘x’ percentage of UK materials and ship it to the EU tariff free if it qualifies for UK origin status. Vice versa with the US if we secured an FTA. We also have trade agreements in place with the CPTPP members which include Japan, Australia, NZ, Canada and Mexico. The trade agreements do not attract businesses to set up here in of itself unless the various tax regimes, employment laws and things energy costs are attractive to them.
 

Mucca Mad Boys

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 3, 2025
  • #11,122
Brighton Sky Blue said:
How were we not an independent nation before?
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In this context, trade policy was dictated by the EU. If the EU decides to issue retaliatory tariffs on the US, Britain would have to follow suit which is what happened between 2016 and 2020 when the EU and US had a spat over steel and aluminium products.
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 3, 2025
  • #11,123
Brighton Sky Blue said:
How were we not an independent nation before?
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What do you mean? We have 10%, the EU 20%. This is directly because of us leaving the EU.

Whatever you think of Brexit, this is a benefit of it. There are some attitudes popping up all over the internet today that just go to show that some people genuinely still don't want us to do well because they lost the vote back in 2016.

America is a mess right now, but this is an opportunity for us to take. It isn't time for small-mindedness.
 
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SBT

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 3, 2025
  • #11,124
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
What do you mean? We have 10%, the EU 20%. This is directly because of us leaving the EU.

Whatever you think of Brexit, this is a benefit of it. There are some attitudes popping up all over the internet today that just go to show that some people genuinely still don't want us to do well because they lost the vote back in 2016.

America is a mess right now, but this is an opportunity for us to take. It isn't time for small-mindedness.
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I mean, I’ll take the wins where we can get them, but a 10% discount on tariffs that are likely to be unwound within four years is not going to justify Brexit on its own.

It’s like patting yourself on the back for blowing a hole in your ceiling and calling it a sunroof because the weather’s nice today.
 
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Mucca Mad Boys

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 3, 2025
  • #11,125
SBT said:
I mean, I’ll take the wins where we can get them, but a 10% discount on tariffs that are likely to be unwound within four years is not going to justify Brexit on its own.

It’s like patting yourself on the back for blowing a hole in your ceiling and calling it a sunroof because the weather’s nice today.
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That’s not a guarantee. The EU will escalate the trade war and the changing of the president doesn’t necessarily mean the trade war will end immediately.

The current status quo of allowing China to dominate manufacturing isn’t good geopolitically for ‘The West’ as a whole.
 
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SBT

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  • Apr 3, 2025
  • #11,126
Mucca Mad Boys said:
That’s not a guarantee. The EU will escalate the trade war and the changing of the president doesn’t necessarily mean the trade war will end immediately.
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If the tariffs are indeed intended as a negotiation tactic then the whole point of them is to be unwound. A Democratic president would also end the tariffs within hours of being inaugurated.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Apr 3, 2025
  • #11,127
Mucca Mad Boys said:
That’s not a guarantee. The EU will escalate the trade war and the changing of the president doesn’t necessarily mean the trade war will end immediately.

The current status quo of allowing China to dominate manufacturing isn’t good geopolitically for ‘The West’ as a whole.
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The preferred strategy of declaring a trade war on the entire world is an interesting gambit tbf.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Apr 3, 2025
  • #11,128
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
What do you mean? We have 10%, the EU 20%. This is directly because of us leaving the EU.

Whatever you think of Brexit, this is a benefit of it. There are some attitudes popping up all over the internet today that just go to show that some people genuinely still don't want us to do well because they lost the vote back in 2016.

America is a mess right now, but this is an opportunity for us to take. It isn't time for small-mindedness.
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What exactly is the opportunity here?
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 3, 2025
  • #11,129
Sick Boy said:
What exactly is the opportunity here?
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We get to be the filling in a belligerent US/restrengthened EU/opportunistic China club sandwich.
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 3, 2025
  • #11,130
I wonder at what point the MAGA cultists might admit they've made a mistake.

Is owning the libs worth losing your car? Your house? Your job?
 
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