Sky_Blue_Dreamer
Well-Known Member
So not 'no Ukrainians'?
"Please, take our land and in return if you could just be so kind as to kill less of us we'd much appreciate it".
So not 'no Ukrainians'?Less Ukrainians die
I agree. This is the only thing I would be willing to bargain land for.The rest should be allowed into NATO. Otherwise, what exactly is Russia having to compromise on?
I agree. This is the only thing I would be willing to bargain land for.
Even more fortunately neither will yours.Fortunately your view will count for nothing
In your view what compromises should Russia make to achieve peace?Fortunately your view will count for nothing
Jesus fucking wept!!!The rest should be allowed into NATO. Otherwise, what exactly is Russia having to compromise on?
In exchange Russia keeps 20% of Ukraine, pays no reparations and Putin doesn’t get hanged for war crimes. And sanctions get lifted.Jesus fucking wept!!!
Do you actually want WW3 ?
So what else will stop Putin going back? The fact that NATO is the one thing he is adamant won't happen tells you it's the one thing he's scared of.Jesus fucking wept!!!
Do you actually want WW3 ?
When Russia tried to put weapons on Americas door step (cuban misile crisis) it nearly started ww3In exchange Russia keeps 20% of Ukraine, pays no reparations and Putin doesn’t get hanged for war crimes. And sanctions get lifted.
It’s just that NATO membership being conceded in return.
What violation? When?It was the violation of this neutral zone by the USA
Is Starmer the horse?
Russia already has 4 NATO members it shares borders with. At the end of the day, there has been a lot of talk about Ukraine having to make compromises, I see nobody in the ‘give peace a chance’ club on SBT saying what Russia should be conceding to make lasting peace a reality.When Russia tried to put weapons on Americas door step (cuban misile crisis) it nearly started ww3
Why would Putin tolerate Nato missiles (or troops, or hardware) in Ukraine, which was always intended to be a neutral buffer zone, after the treaty that saw Ukraine give up its Neuclear weapons in 1994, in exchange for a peace agreement?
It was the violation of this neutral zone by the USA via the CIA that prompted this invasion.
(This can be researched by anyone willing to do the homework)
There's zero chance Putin would allow it, it would be a red line for Putin.
It's more likely that putin would demand a totally de-militarised Ukraine, with USA and Russian inspectors ensuring the neutrality is maintained.
This would probably suit Trump who would then be free to start mining the raw materials he wants for America.
Although I'm not sure that's such a great deal for Ukraine to be honest.
So the best way to be a neutral buffer zone is to invade and assimilate the country so that the border is right next to lots of NATO countries?When Russia tried to put weapons on Americas door step (cuban misile crisis) it nearly started ww3
Why would Putin tolerate Nato missiles (or troops, or hardware) in Ukraine, which was always intended to be a neutral buffer zone, after the treaty that saw Ukraine give up its Neuclear weapons in 1994, in exchange for a peace agreement?
It was the violation of this neutral zone by the USA via the CIA that prompted this invasion.
(This can be researched by anyone willing to do the homework)
There's zero chance Putin would allow it, it would be a red line for Putin.
It's more likely that putin would demand a totally de-militarised Ukraine, with USA and Russian inspectors ensuring the neutrality is maintained.
This would probably suit Trump who would then be free to start mining the raw materials he wants for America.
Although I'm not sure that's such a great deal for Ukraine to be honest.
In the short-term? Maybe…Less Ukrainians die
Bit of an inconvenience having to fly someone out to sign the deal. Couldn’t everyone fly into Moscow to do it?In exchange Russia keeps 20% of Ukraine, pays no reparations and Putin doesn’t get hanged for war crimes. And sanctions get lifted.
It’s just that NATO membership being conceded in return.
Then why wasn't they speaking to zelensky? Why was the US and Russia negotiating peace without the victim?No one has taken sides.
Trump has spoken to Putin. Oddly you have to speak to people and negotiate. Shock horror.
‘Allow Ukraine into NATO bro?! You want to start WW3 bro?!’Bit of an inconvenience having to fly someone out to sign the deal. Couldn’t everyone fly into Moscow to do it?
No, because you want eternal war.
Meanwhile EU countries continue to fund the aggressor's war machine by handing over hundreds of billions for fossil fuels.Trump flexing his muscles and coming down hard. Not on the aggressor, on the invaded.
Musk has now fired 7000 people who work in delivering their equivalent of the state pension. Pensioners now being advised to save money because payments could now get missed.Trump and his friends will be getting richer while everyone else struggles
Geopolitics ehMeanwhile EU countries continue to fund the aggressor's war machine by handing over hundreds of billions for fossil fuels.
And to top it off musk isn't even American, he's just a far and fat right wing moron.Musk has now fired 7000 people who work in delivering their equivalent of the state pension. Pensioners now being advised to save money because payments could now get missed.
Throwing pensioners under the bus in a way that makes Starmer’s WFP raid look like handing gold bars to grannies
All peopleTariffs on Canada and Mexico confirmed.
Which could add 40c to fuel and $10K on new car prices.
It's going to hit people hard.
I asked the same questions last week I think. What concessions could Russia possibly give, other than a promise to stop attacking Ukraine?The rest should be allowed into NATO. Otherwise, what exactly is Russia having to compromise on?
And I assume that like me you didn’t get an answer.I asked the same questions last week I think. What concessions could Russia possibly give, other than a promise to stop attacking Ukraine?
Yup.And I assume that like me you didn’t get an answer.
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