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Trump is my favourite comedian of the year already (9 Viewers)

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shmmeee

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  • Feb 19, 2025
  • #9,381
wingy said:
And personally making money, he's basically trying to short the market somehow,tbf I think the dollar needs all the help it can get.
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Bit like Brexit. Crash an economy and make money shorting it.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Feb 19, 2025
  • #9,382
Aren't they all at it? How much has Zelensky made?
 

duffer

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 19, 2025
  • #9,383
Nick said:
Aren't they all at it? How much has Zelensky made?
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Blimey mate, are you seriously saying that Zelenskyy instigated a war with Russia and then has been keeping it going just to get rich?
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Feb 19, 2025
  • #9,384
duffer said:
Blimey mate, are you seriously saying that Zelenskyy instigated a war with Russia and then has been keeping it going just to get rich?
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No, I am saying how much money has he made?

Ukraine is right up there for corruption isn't it?

Again, I am sure they are all at it. Not sure why he comes out as a victim.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 19, 2025
  • #9,385
Nick said:
No, I am saying how much money has he made?

Ukraine is right up there for corruption isn't it?

Again, I am sure they are all at it. Not sure why he comes out as a victim.
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His country objectively is the victim in this conflict
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Feb 19, 2025
  • #9,386
Brighton Sky Blue said:
His country objectively is the victim in this conflict
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I'm talking about the individuals.
 

duffer

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 19, 2025
  • #9,387
Nick said:
No, I am saying how much money has he made?

Ukraine is right up there for corruption isn't it?

Again, I am sure they are all at it. Not sure why he comes out as a victim.
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He's a victim because tens of thousands of his fellow countrymen, including women and children are being killed by Russians. His country is being bombed day and night.

At the outbreak of the war they were literally sending death squads after him.

Is this is some attempt to say "they're all the same", or Ukraine deserves it because Zelenskyy's bent?

How much money has he made? Where are you getting your information from mate? Russia Today? Trump?

Fact check: Russian fake news targets Ukraine's Zelenskyy – DW – 02/23/2024

From lavish shopping sprees to luxury yachts, disinformation swirls around Ukraine's president. DW's Fact Check team investigates dubious claims that aim to weaken Western support for the country's ongoing war.
www.dw.com
 
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duffer

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  • Feb 19, 2025
  • #9,388
Nick said:
I'm talking about the individuals.
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The individuals who Russia would literally love to see dead or in a Gulag. Who choose to live in a city under constant threat of attack.

Those individuals, not victims? Sorry mate, it's a nonsense argument.
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Feb 19, 2025
  • #9,389
Grendel said:
You do realise Gorbachev is despised in Russia and that the demise of the Soviet Union is seen as a dark day by most of Russia?
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Indeed I do. Partly due to Putin making that the narrative over the last 25 years. Before that opinion of his was a bit more mixed.

But that's why I was talking about personalities. Gorbachev was more open and willing to negotiate, leaving him open to critcism. Putin will just double down and mercilessly destroy anyone that points out the inconsistencies and bullshit he comes out with.
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Feb 19, 2025
  • #9,390
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Wow ‘dim’ how childish, you learn that off the weirdo @SkyBlueCharlie9

Cry more haha, trump has you on toast
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You do realise that calling people names if Trump's entire MO?

It's so sad - it's like watching you fanboy over Boris all over again only this time with even bigger consequences. I guess some people just never learn.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 19, 2025
  • #9,391
Otis said:
I know I keep saying it, but he is either incredibly dumb, or a complete lunatic.

It's unbelievable the stuff he's coming out with, isn't it.

I have friends in the US (not Democrat supporters by a long chalk), who just say they are utterly embarrassed and think everyone else must now think of the US as a laughing stock, it's so utterly ridiculous.
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Well he's probably both.

But as many people suspected he goes into a room with Putin and comes out basically just repeating what Putin has told him. Once again he's being played like a fiddle because he's so easy to manipulate. Just be the last person in the room with him and tell him how great he is while putting forward your position and he will just go out and repeat it.

I imagine this is what Putin is doing right now.
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Feb 19, 2025
  • #9,392
Grendel said:
Which is your theory and not a fact
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Well let's bookmark it and come back to it in 5 years shall we?
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Feb 20, 2025
  • #9,393
duffer said:
The individuals who Russia would literally love to see dead or in a Gulag. Who choose to live in a city under constant threat of attack.

Those individuals, not victims? Sorry mate, it's a nonsense argument.
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You have written a story based on the question and taken it miles off where you want it to, added a fair few assumptions in as well.
 
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Otis

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  • Feb 20, 2025
  • #9,394
duffer said:
He's a victim because tens of thousands of his fellow countrymen, including women and children are being killed by Russians. His country is being bombed day and night.

At the outbreak of the war they were literally sending death squads after him.

Is this is some attempt to say "they're all the same", or Ukraine deserves it because Zelenskyy's bent?

How much money has he made? Where are you getting your information from mate? Russia Today? Trump?

Fact check: Russian fake news targets Ukraine's Zelenskyy – DW – 02/23/2024

From lavish shopping sprees to luxury yachts, disinformation swirls around Ukraine's president. DW's Fact Check team investigates dubious claims that aim to weaken Western support for the country's ongoing war.
www.dw.com
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We have friends in Kyiv and they are literally being bombed every single night.

They say it's several times a day.

Obviously must be drones.
 
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SkyBlueCharlie9

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  • Feb 20, 2025
  • #9,395
Nick said:
No, I am saying how much money has he made?

Ukraine is right up there for corruption isn't it?

Again, I am sure they are all at it. Not sure why he comes out as a victim.
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You are falling for Putin and Trumps very transparent and weak attempts at propoganda through character assassination. How intelligent people fall for this fabricated sh!te I'll never know!. Russia, China, Trump, Farage etc. are all at it, and people swallow it. No excuses as plenty of proper balanced information available from reliable sources at touch of a button.
 
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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 20, 2025
  • #9,396
Nick said:
No, I am saying how much money has he made?

Ukraine is right up there for corruption isn't it?

Again, I am sure they are all at it. Not sure why he comes out as a victim.
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He and his chums are certainly not going to be as poor as the people he leaves behind when he leaves the country

Revealed: ‘anti-oligarch’ Ukrainian president’s offshore connections

Volodymyr Zelenskiy has railed against politicians hiding wealth offshore but failed to disclose links to BVI firm
www.theguardian.com
 
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PVA

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  • Feb 20, 2025
  • #9,397
Grendel said:
He and his chums are certainly not going to be as poor as the people he leaves behind when he leaves the country

Revealed: ‘anti-oligarch’ Ukrainian president’s offshore connections

Volodymyr Zelenskiy has railed against politicians hiding wealth offshore but failed to disclose links to BVI firm
www.theguardian.com
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President in being richer than citizens shocker, stop the press!!!!!!!!!!
 

Grendel

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  • Feb 20, 2025
  • #9,398
PVA said:
President in being richer than citizens shocker, stop the press!!!!!!!!!!
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Not exactly the point of the article is it?
 
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PVA

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  • Feb 20, 2025
  • #9,399
Grendel said:
Not exactly the point of the article is it?
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It's literally the point you just made though.

And that company was set up in 2012, something to do with TV production, so it's nothing to do with profiteering from the war like you and Nick (and Putin) are suggesting.
 
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Grendel

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  • Feb 20, 2025
  • #9,400
PVA said:
It's literally the point you just made though.

And that company was set up in 2012, something to do with TV production, so it's nothing to do with profiteering from the war like you and Nick (and Putin) are suggesting.
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Its point is that he does exactly what he says he is opposed to
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 20, 2025
  • #9,401
Grendel said:
Its point is that he does exactly what he says he is opposed to
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I would accept this more if the current US President wasn’t indulging in fraud and corruption himself.
 
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Grendel

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  • Feb 20, 2025
  • #9,402
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I would accept this more if the current US President wasn’t indulging in fraud and corruption himself.
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A strange argument. So if one does it they all can?
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Feb 20, 2025
  • #9,403
Grendel said:
A strange argument. So if one does it they all can?
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No, but if you're going to use it to take the high stance as a reason to beat him and the Ukrainians with then you should at least acknowledge that the other side's President does it to a far far bigger degree.

It's like saying Dr Crippen was bad but Harold Shipman was ok.
 
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SkyBlueCharlie9

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  • Feb 20, 2025
  • #9,404
What is Putin going to sacrifice in any 'negotiations' ?
 
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PVA

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  • Feb 20, 2025
  • #9,405
SkyBlueCharlie9 said:
What is Putin going to sacrifice in any 'negotiations' ?
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mmttww

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  • Feb 20, 2025
  • #9,406
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Getting rattled on a football forum...
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You got any mirrors in your house, m8?
 
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mmttww

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 20, 2025
  • #9,407
Grendel said:
alternative is 4 more years of death...
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Grendel said:
Which is your theory and not a fact
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Ladies and gentlemen! ... the internet.
 
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Grendel

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  • Feb 20, 2025
  • #9,408
PVA said:
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Bit like Zalensky then
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Feb 20, 2025
  • #9,409
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
No, but if you're going to use it to take the high stance as a reason to beat him and the Ukrainians with then you should at least acknowledge that the other side's President does it to a far far bigger degree.

It's like saying Dr Crippen was bad but Harold Shipman was ok.
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Funny thing is, my comment was that they are all looking after themselves as individuals first and foremost. The responses were essays completely unrelated to what I said.

Seems like people have to be either one end of the scale or the other, Trump and Putin nasty men so completely ignore the fact Ukraine is one of the most corrupt countries about. Can't possibly be the case that they are all at it, looking after number 1.

Weird.
 
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PVA

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  • Feb 20, 2025
  • #9,410
Grendel said:
Bit like Zalensky then
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What on earth are you blabbering on about now?
 
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PVA

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  • Feb 20, 2025
  • #9,411
Nick said:
Funny thing is, my comment was that they are all looking after themselves as individuals first and foremost. The responses were essays completely unrelated to what I said.

Seems like people have to be either one end of the scale or the other, Trump and Putin nasty men so completely ignore the fact Ukraine is one of the most corrupt countries about. Can't possibly be the case that they are all at it, looking after number 1.

Weird.
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If you try and put Zelensky on the same level as Putin then you're bound to get shit. And rightly so.

'Weird'.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Feb 20, 2025
  • #9,412
PVA said:
If you try and put Zelensky on the same level as Putin then you're bound to get shit. And rightly so.

'Weird'.
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I can't remember producing a percentage graph.

"bound to get shit". Go outside for a bit, for fuck sake.
 
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Grendel

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  • Feb 20, 2025
  • #9,413
PVA said:
What on earth are you blabbering on about now?
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He has enforced conscription, banned people from leaving the country, tried to recall citizens to fight - while he sits with Global leaders and will have a Cayman Island account to fall back on.

Pretty easy to understand really.
 

Otis

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  • Feb 20, 2025
  • #9,414
SkyBlueCharlie9 said:
What is Putin going to sacrifice in any 'negotiations' ?
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What it will be I think, will be that he will say, if you let us keep hold of the territory we have so far taken, we promise not to take any more.
 
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PVA

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  • Feb 20, 2025
  • #9,415
Nick said:
I can't remember producing a percentage graph.

"bound to get shit". Go outside for a bit, for fuck sake.
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You've said something stupid, been called out on it, then thrown your toys out the pram. Standard for you really.
 
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