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Trump is my favourite comedian of the year already (19 Viewers)

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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 20, 2024
  • #7,911
I see the great dictator has now filed a lawsuit against the Iowa pollster who predicted he would lose the state. I thought he was a free speech champion?
 

Como

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  • Dec 20, 2024
  • #7,912
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I see the great dictator has now filed a lawsuit against the Iowa pollster who predicted he would lose the state. I thought he was a free speech champion?
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SIR ERNIE

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  • Dec 20, 2024
  • #7,913
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I see the great dictator has now filed a lawsuit against the Iowa pollster who predicted he would lose the state. I thought he was a free speech champion?
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poor bait.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Dec 20, 2024
  • #7,914
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I see the great dictator has now filed a lawsuit against the Iowa pollster who predicted he would lose the state. I thought he was a free speech champion?
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I see you’ve not read the first amendment:

Congress shall make no law, or social media company no terms of service, that shall abridge the freedom to call women birches, shout at brown people and call everyone you don’t like a pedo.

Nothing about lawsuits or polls or whatever in there. Just about being racist on Twitter.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 20, 2024
  • #7,915
SIR ERNIE said:
poor bait.
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Bait?
 

SBAndy

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  • Dec 20, 2024
  • #7,916
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Bait?
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You’re interacting with someone who doesn’t have the courage of his convictions to explain why he feels a Trump presidency is of benefit to the US/the wider world. Don’t expect coherence.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 20, 2024
  • #7,917
SBAndy said:
You’re interacting with someone who doesn’t have the courage of his convictions to explain why he feels a Trump presidency is of benefit to the US/the wider world. Don’t expect coherence.
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It’s confusing when bait means just stating stuff Trump does.
 

shmmeee

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  • Dec 20, 2024
  • #7,918
Brighton Sky Blue said:
It’s confusing when bait means just stating stuff Trump does.
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Yeah but you’re posting things he’s said knowing that it’ll trigger an emotional reaction in people who support him. Despicable.
 
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Como

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  • Dec 20, 2024
  • #7,919
 
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Grendel

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  • Dec 20, 2024
  • #7,920
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I see the great dictator has now filed a lawsuit against the Iowa pollster who predicted he would lose the state. I thought he was a free speech champion?
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He was democratically elected so the term dictator is rather curious
 
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SBT

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  • Dec 20, 2024
  • #7,921
Grendel said:
He was democratically elected so the term dictator is rather curious
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Being democratically elected doesn’t preclude anyone from acting or governing like a dictator.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 20, 2024
  • #7,922
Grendel said:
He was democratically elected so the term dictator is rather curious
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He is one in all but name. Immunity from prosecution with full control over every branch of legislature.
 

SIR ERNIE

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  • Dec 20, 2024
  • #7,923
SBAndy said:
You’re interacting with someone who doesn’t have the courage of his convictions to explain why he feels a Trump presidency is of benefit to the US/the wider world. Don’t expect coherence.
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What a weird outburst.
Surely even you must realise that the leftist narrative 'Trump's a Dictator/Nazi/Hitler/Racist etc are worn out tropes that were soundly rejected by the US electorate last month.
It must be difficult to accept that it was working class Dems who rejected your view, turned in their millions to Trump and guaranteed his landslide victory.
 
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Grendel

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  • Dec 20, 2024
  • #7,924
Brighton Sky Blue said:
He is one in all but name. Immunity from prosecution with full control over every branch of legislature.
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How is they any less democratic than the likes of Biden and Clinton pardoning convicted felons within their own families?
 

Grendel

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  • Dec 20, 2024
  • #7,925
SBT said:
Being democratically elected doesn’t preclude anyone from acting or governing like a dictator.
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Well he hasn’t yet governed in the second term and despite the hysteria I doubt we are heading for a one party state in the US anytime soon.
 

SBAndy

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  • Dec 20, 2024
  • #7,926
SIR ERNIE said:
What a weird outburst.
Surely even you must realise that the leftist narrative 'Trump's a Dictator/Nazi/Hitler/Racist etc are worn out tropes that were soundly rejected by the US electorate last month.
It must be difficult to accept that it was working class Dems who rejected your view, turned in their millions to Trump and guaranteed his landslide victory.
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Snowflake.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 20, 2024
  • #7,927
Grendel said:
How is they any less democratic than the likes of Biden and Clinton pardoning convicted felons within their own families?
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Trump objectively is a convicted felon!
 

Grendel

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  • Dec 20, 2024
  • #7,928
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Trump objectively is a convicted felon!
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Which I don’t believe makes him immune from standing under the democratic constitution does it?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 20, 2024
  • #7,929
Grendel said:
Which I don’t believe makes him immune from standing under the democratic constitution does it?
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Attempting to prevent the transfer of power by inciting an insurrection and meddling in state vote counts should be a disqualification yet it isn’t.
 
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Grendel

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  • Dec 20, 2024
  • #7,930
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Attempting to prevent the transfer of power by inciting an insurrection and meddling in state vote counts should be a disqualification yet it isn’t.
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You don’t set the rules and no it isn’t / your opinion isn’t aligned to the constitution. Also I assume he can pardon himself as the likes of Clinton and Biden have pardoned relatives and Ford ended up pardoning Nixon. It’s US politics - just get over it.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 21, 2024
  • #7,931
Grendel said:
You don’t set the rules and no it isn’t / your opinion isn’t aligned to the constitution. Also I assume he can pardon himself as the likes of Clinton and Biden have pardoned relatives and Ford ended up pardoning Nixon. It’s US politics - just get over it.
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I don’t care that you don’t care G
 
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shmmeee

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  • Dec 21, 2024
  • #7,932
SIR ERNIE said:
What a weird outburst.
Surely even you must realise that the leftist narrative 'Trump's a Dictator/Nazi/Hitler/Racist etc are worn out tropes that were soundly rejected by the US electorate last month.
It must be difficult to accept that it was working class Dems who rejected your view, turned in their millions to Trump and guaranteed his landslide victory.
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“landslide”

It was the lowest vote margin since the turn of the century apart from his last one, and only slightly above Biden in college votes.

You people really do parrot whatever you’re told. This stuff is a Google away.
 
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Como

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  • Dec 21, 2024
  • #7,933
For comparison half as much again as Starmer
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Dec 21, 2024
  • #7,934
The Philosopher said:
Google based in Eire can supply into the EU tariff free (effectively- not that straightforward but anyway)

Google based in the US and supplying into the EU will leave them open to tariffs / fines etc. Indeed, the EU showed their intent by hammering Apple and Google recently.
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Are you suggesting that an American president wants an American company to pay tariffs to sell its services outside of the USA?
 

The Philosopher

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  • Dec 21, 2024
  • #7,935
fernandopartridge said:
Are you suggesting that an American president wants an American company to pay tariffs to sell its services outside of the USA?
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If the profit centre for a company is not the USA, prove to me that it is not in the USA’s best interests to do so?
 

SIR ERNIE

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  • Dec 21, 2024
  • #7,936
shmmeee said:
You people really do parrot whatever you’re told
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...says the clown who swallowed the lie that Biden's only impairment is a stammer.
 
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SBT

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  • Dec 21, 2024
  • #7,937
The Philosopher said:
If the profit centre for a company is not the USA, prove to me that it is not in the USA’s best interests to do so?
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Can you even remember what your original argument was at this point? You were claiming that Google was pissed off that Trump wanted to cut corporate tax rates in the United States. Now it’s some nonsense about Trump’s tariffs on Google - what specifically would he put tariffs on?
 

Grendel

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  • Dec 21, 2024
  • #7,938
shmmeee said:
“landslide”

It was the lowest vote margin since the turn of the century apart from his last one, and only slightly above Biden in college votes.

You people really do parrot whatever you’re told. This stuff is a Google away.
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Where have you got that from?

As you well know the key battle states are always the real measure. Trump won these by the biggest margin this century.

Since 1932 only 6 other candidates from a out of power party have taken as higher share of the vote as Trump

Trump’s margin of victory in the Electoral College was nowhere near the landslide wins of Lyndon B. Johnson in 1964, Richard M. Nixon in 1972 or Reagan in 1984. But it was bigger than four of the seven elections this century, including Biden’s four years earlier.

Trump won both the Electoral College and the popular vote; in fact, Trump this year became only the second Republican to win the popular vote since 1988.

The percentage margin overall was small but your claim there is wrong as well as its not as small as the 2000 election
 
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The Philosopher

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  • Dec 21, 2024
  • #7,939
SBT said:
Can you even remember what your original argument was at this point? You were claiming that Google was pissed off that Trump wanted to cut corporate tax rates in the United States. Now it’s some nonsense about Trump’s tariffs on Google - what specifically would he put tariffs on?
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I have absolutely no clue what you are getting at. Sorry.

Evidence your point, if there is one.
 
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SBT

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  • Dec 21, 2024
  • #7,940
The Philosopher said:
I have absolutely no clue what you are getting at. Sorry.

Evidence your point, if there is one.
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My point is that you started with a Guardian article about Trump cutting US tax rates as proof to “the more intelligent on this thread” that Google didn’t want a president who would save them billions of dollars in tax (as he did during his first administration):

The Philosopher said:

Ireland prices corporation tax loss from Trump policies at €10bn

Figure costed for three multinationals repatriating to US after nomination for commerce secretary hits out at Ireland’s tax regime
amp.theguardian.com

The more intelligent on this thread might deduce (from this Guardian article) that Google et al didn’t want Trump.

I really don’t need to explain why do I (perhaps I do for the lefty lot: Trump wants to stop the tax evasion that Google is doing in Ireland and bring the revenue back to the states.)
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But now you’re circling around to saying it’s actually Trump’s tariffs that Google are worried about. So I’m just asking - what exactly is Trump going to place tariffs on that will impact Google?
 

shmmeee

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  • Dec 21, 2024
  • #7,941
SIR ERNIE said:
...says the clown who swallowed the lie that Biden's only impairment is a stammer.
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Even demented he wins a mental acuity tests against your man so I’m really not sure I’d pull this thread.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 21, 2024
  • #7,942
Grendel said:
Where have you got that from?

As you well know the key battle states are always the real measure. Trump won these by the biggest margin this century.

Since 1932 only 6 other candidates from a out of power party have taken as higher share of the vote as Trump

Trump’s margin of victory in the Electoral College was nowhere near the landslide wins of Lyndon B. Johnson in 1964, Richard M. Nixon in 1972 or Reagan in 1984. But it was bigger than four of the seven elections this century, including Biden’s four years earlier.

Trump won both the Electoral College and the popular vote; in fact, Trump this year became only the second Republican to win the popular vote since 1988.

The percentage margin overall was small but your claim there is wrong as well as its not as small as the 2000 election
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Barack Obama twice won most of those battleground states by more than Trump and he also received over half the popular vote twice. In 3 elections Trump has not managed to reach 50%, again Obama did it twice and even Bush did it once.

He now will have unchecked power in a way that has never been seen before in the US. Having the trifecta of Congress and the presidency is nothing new, but controlling the Supreme Court and the added ruling that the president is above the law is. That is incredibly dangerous and it will have implications over here given that the US is the dog that wags the tail.

Can you imagine if Putin openly said it was his right to interfere with a general election?
 

Grendel

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  • Dec 21, 2024
  • #7,943
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I don’t care that you don’t care G
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I think you probably need some fresh air
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 21, 2024
  • #7,944
Grendel said:
I think you probably need some fresh air
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I get plenty
 

The Philosopher

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  • Dec 21, 2024
  • #7,945
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Barack Obama twice won most of those battleground states by more than Trump and he also received over half the popular vote twice. In 3 elections Trump has not managed to reach 50%, again Obama did it twice and even Bush did it once.

He now will have unchecked power in a way that has never been seen before in the US. Having the trifecta of Congress and the presidency is nothing new, but controlling the Supreme Court and the added ruling that the president is above the law is. That is incredibly dangerous and it will have implications over here given that the US is the dog that wags the tail.

Can you imagine if Putin openly said it was his right to interfere with a general election?
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Put down the cooking sherry.

A Candidate should of course be interfering in an election, it’s kinda the whole point of standing.

I quote Brian Clough:

 
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