Trump is my favourite comedian of the year already (19 Viewers)

Sky_Blue_Dreamer · Nov 29, 2024

SIR ERNIE said:
Spot on and just as in the UK, people are sick to the back teeth of the wimpy progressive woke agenda.
I'd also add that the blatant weaponising of the justice system against political opponents was a move that disgusted and outraged many Americans. it was a massive OG for the Biden (Obama) regime.

And another.

Weaponising of the justice system yet the right in the US have loaded the Supreme Court with their picks (denying Obama a pick that was by right his) and now passing a load of right-wing legislation.

And wait until next year and see how Trump uses it then. Or have you not been paying attention to Trumps latest AG pick who's stated that they should prosecute the prosecutors and investigate the investigators? About as clear as can be that they intend to use it to go after politicial enemies.

Mcbean · Nov 30, 2024

Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
and also starve.

British farming could not meet the demands of the population.

True but not everything - cheaper imports have forced farmers to diversify and move off some of the core production like milk - quality from on farm products is much higher and our level of standards through agriculture is higher than Europe creating an unfair advantage - we recently won a voucher in a raffle for meat from a garden centre butchery - we picked steak and sausages - although they were packed in Ireland they had come from Europe - the steak was only good enough to put in a casserole - the sausages had so much preservatives in them you could taste them

The Philosopher · Nov 30, 2024

Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
That is some of the funniest shit I've ever read.

'centre left' are deep establishment yet almost all the institutions are run by the (centre) right. The US doesn't even have a left. It's centre right vs right.

Then to talk about more likely to be involved in dodgy business and fail to mention Trump, who has been prosecuted numerous times for dodgy business.

As for high regulation/high tax, do you even realise the shitshow that would ensue if those weren't there? Legislation is there because if you let businesses self regulate, they don't. They do whatever the fuck they can to make more money, regardless of the harm that may do to others.

I guess you're going down the MAGA-esque route as you're expecting to see Farage in charge of the Tories next election and ingratiating yourself with them early.

Farage has been controlling the direction of the Tory party for about 10 years. It’s not a difficult observation.

Sky_Blue_Dreamer · Nov 30, 2024

The Philosopher said:
Farage has been controlling the direction of the Tory party for about 10 years. It’s not a difficult observation.

Yes, but never been likely to actually be involved. I think his moment is coming though, now he is an MP.

And the fact that this is either your opinion (or something you know from your contacts in the party) and in that time you've got more and more involved in it, doesn't look good on you.

Brighton Sky Blue · Nov 30, 2024

Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
Yes, but never been likely to actually be involved. I think his moment is coming though, now he is an MP.

And the fact that this is either your opinion (or something you know from your contacts in the party) and in that time you've got more and more involved in it, doesn't look good on you.

Does explain a lot though. That and Farage has been so far up Trump’s arse for so long and it really shows.

The Philosopher · Dec 1, 2024

Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
Yes, but never been likely to actually be involved. I think his moment is coming though, now he is an MP.

And the fact that this is either your opinion (or something you know from your contacts in the party) and in that time you've got more and more involved in it, doesn't look good on you.

I’ve got nothing to hide, I know Nigel and I’ve had many a dialogue with him. He’s geopolitically aware and is far more astute than most everyone in UK politics. I don’t agree with everything he says but won’t bilge about the guy, unlike most others, who simply put him down because they don’t like / understand his policies.

Sky Blue Pete · Dec 1, 2024

I think Farage will be arrested

Otis · Dec 1, 2024

Sky Blue Pete said:
I think Farage will be arrested

For gormlessly grinning in a public space?

SIR ERNIE · Dec 1, 2024

Another great Trump earthquake nomination, Kash Patel as FBI Director General.
Likely he won't get Senate confirmation in which case he'll get the Deputy role but still more than enough to send shockwaves through the organisation.

shmmeee · Dec 1, 2024

SIR ERNIE said:
Another great Trump earthquake nomination, Kash Patel as FBI Director General.
Likely he won't get Senate confirmation in which case he'll get the Deputy role but still more than enough to send shockwaves through the organisation.

is an earthquake supposed to to be a good thing?

Brighton Sky Blue · Dec 1, 2024

SIR ERNIE said:
Another great Trump earthquake nomination, Kash Patel as FBI Director General.
Likely he won't get Senate confirmation in which case he'll get the Deputy role but still more than enough to send shockwaves through the organisation.

Another election denialist who wants to prosecute those who ‘helped Biden rig the election’. I assume your terrible takes are just wind ups at this point?

Como · Dec 2, 2024

Old Joe pardons his son Hunter despite numerous statements he would not.

that pretty much kills the gun debate.

tisza · Dec 2, 2024

Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
and also starve.

British farming could not meet the demands of the population.

Not particularly true. Removal of production subsidies (that most other countries have) and paying farmers to grow wild flowers has taken a lot of productive land out of production. Many UK arable farms will be putting as much 50% of their crop land into wildflowers etc this year.
Few countries have as much red tape and legislation as UK agriculture. UK imports (and will increasingly import more) from countries that are using inputs banned in UK and with much lower welfare standards.
Also UK agriculture has to operate in a business environment where the supermarkets are basically operating as a cartel in keeping farmgate prices at low levels.

tisza · Dec 2, 2024

Como said:
Old Joe pardons his son Hunter despite numerous statements he would not.

that pretty much kills the gun debate.

Every outgoing President pardons some iffy individuals. Trump says he is going to pardon a load of the Jan 6 protesters/rioters.

SBT · Dec 2, 2024

Absolutely shameful from Biden. Just a historically awful presidency.

Grendel · Dec 2, 2024

tisza said:
Every outgoing President pardons some iffy individuals. Trump says he is going to pardon a load of the Jan 6 protesters/rioters.

Its a total U Turn and gives Trump legitimacy to do what he wants. Its not defendable.

Brighton Sky Blue · Dec 2, 2024

Grendel said:
Its a total U Turn and gives Trump legitimacy to do what he wants. Its not defendable.

By that reasoning Biden has legitimacy to start a riot to prevent Trump taking office

shmmeee · Dec 2, 2024

tisza said:
Not particularly true. Removal of production subsidies (that most other countries have) and paying farmers to grow wild flowers has taken a lot of productive land out of production. Many UK arable farms will be putting as much 50% of their crop land into wildflowers etc this year.
Few countries have as much red tape and legislation as UK agriculture. UK imports (and will increasingly import more) from countries that are using inputs banned in UK and with much lower welfare standards.
Also UK agriculture has to operate in a business environment where the supermarkets are basically operating as a cartel in keeping farmgate prices at low levels.

The UK hasn’t been self sufficient since something like 1750

Grendel · Dec 2, 2024

Brighton Sky Blue said:
By that reasoning Biden has legitimacy to start a riot to prevent Trump taking office

No it doesn't. Biden and his party have constantly taken the moral high ground on Trump and his exploitation and manipulation of the Justice System. How can that now have any credibility when he does exactly the same?

Brighton Sky Blue · Dec 2, 2024

Grendel said:
No it doesn't. Biden and his party have constantly taken the moral high ground on Trump and his exploitation and manipulation of the Justice System. How can that now have any credibility when he does exactly the same?

Trump stacked the Supreme Court to give the president immunity from doing basically anything. If he doesn’t like someone else exploiting that loophole perhaps he should have thought twice

Grendel · Dec 2, 2024

Brighton Sky Blue said:
Trump stacked the Supreme Court to give the president immunity from doing basically anything. If he doesn’t like someone else exploiting that loophole perhaps he should have thought twice

You support Biden on this then? Presidents have always been allowed to pardon people.

Otis · Dec 2, 2024

SBT said:
Absolutely shameful from Biden. Just a historically awful presidency.

Just makes you dislike all politicians even more doesn't it.

chiefdave · Dec 2, 2024

tisza said:
Every outgoing President pardons some iffy individuals. Trump says he is going to pardon a load of the Jan 6 protesters/rioters.

Not sure that really stands up as an excuse. Also think there's a difference between quietly pardoning someone of something relatively minor and doing a complete u-turn and pardoning your son when you've spent years saying you wouldn't.

If Trump now goes ahead with his promise to pardon everyone convicted of anything related to Jan 6 its going to be pretty difficult for the democrats to say its an abuse of power.

shmmeee · Dec 2, 2024

TBH fair enough. He’s been fucked over, his opponent won’t give two shits about propriety and it’s his son. I’d do the same.

The fact the president can pardon people is mental, but he can.

Marty · Dec 2, 2024

shmmeee said:
is an earthquake supposed to to be a good thing?

Depends on who's perspective you see it from I suppose.

Brighton Sky Blue · Dec 2, 2024

Grendel said:
You support Biden on this then? Presidents have always been allowed to pardon people.

They have indeed, so I don’t see the outrage on this. After all, convicted felon Trump is going to avoid justice simply because he’s President elect.

SIR ERNIE · Dec 2, 2024

How many times did we hear Joe Biden spout "No one is above the law"
he should have added 'unless your name is Biden.'

So in addition to the conviction for falsely obtaining a firearm (average 6 years imprisonment for a non-Biden), the average US citizen would be facing up to 17 years for tax evasion:

Taken from the DOJ website:

Thursday, September 5, 2024
Share

For Immediate Release
Special Counsel David C. Weiss
Robert Hunter Biden (Hunter Biden) pleaded guilty in federal court in Los Angeles this afternoon to all counts in a nine-count indictment, including three felony tax offenses and six misdemeanor tax offenses. There was no plea agreement.
Judge Scarsi accepted the defendant’s guilty plea and scheduled sentencing for December 16, 2024.
According to the indictment, Hunter Biden engaged in a four-year scheme in which he chose not to pay at least $1.4 million in self-assessed federal taxes he owed for tax years 2016 through 2019 and to evade the assessment of taxes for tax year 2018 when he filed false returns. As alleged in the indictment, to further this scheme, Hunter Biden:

subverted the payroll and tax withholding process of his own company by withdrawing millions outside of the payroll and tax withholding process;
spent millions of dollars on an extravagant lifestyle rather than paying his tax bills;
in 2018, stopped paying his outstanding and overdue taxes for tax year 2015;
willfully failed to pay his 2016, 2017, 2018 and 2019 taxes on time, despite having access to funds to pay some or all of these taxes;
willfully failed to file his 2017 and 2018 tax returns, on time; and
when he did finally file his 2018 returns, included false business deductions in order to reduce the very substantial tax liability he faced as of February 2020.

At sentencing, Hunter Biden faces a maximum penalty of 17 years in prison. Actual sentences for federal crimes are typically less than the maximum penalties. A federal district court judge will determine any sentence after taking into account the U.S. Sentencing Guidelines and other statutory factors.
Court documents and information for this case is located on the website of the District Court for the Central District of California or on PACER by searching for Case No. 2:23-cr-00599.
Updated September 6, 2024

duffer · Dec 2, 2024

SIR ERNIE said:
How many times did we hear Joe Biden spout "No one is above the law"
he should have added 'unless your name is Biden.'

So in addition to the conviction for falsely obtaining a firearm (average 6 years imprisonment for a non-Biden), the average US citizen would be facing up to 17 years for tax evasion:

Taken from the DOJ website:

Thursday, September 5, 2024
Share

For Immediate Release
Special Counsel David C. Weiss
Robert Hunter Biden (Hunter Biden) pleaded guilty in federal court in Los Angeles this afternoon to all counts in a nine-count indictment, including three felony tax offenses and six misdemeanor tax offenses. There was no plea agreement.
Judge Scarsi accepted the defendant’s guilty plea and scheduled sentencing for December 16, 2024.
According to the indictment, Hunter Biden engaged in a four-year scheme in which he chose not to pay at least $1.4 million in self-assessed federal taxes he owed for tax years 2016 through 2019 and to evade the assessment of taxes for tax year 2018 when he filed false returns. As alleged in the indictment, to further this scheme, Hunter Biden:

subverted the payroll and tax withholding process of his own company by withdrawing millions outside of the payroll and tax withholding process;

spent millions of dollars on an extravagant lifestyle rather than paying his tax bills;

in 2018, stopped paying his outstanding and overdue taxes for tax year 2015;

willfully failed to pay his 2016, 2017, 2018 and 2019 taxes on time, despite having access to funds to pay some or all of these taxes;

willfully failed to file his 2017 and 2018 tax returns, on time; and

when he did finally file his 2018 returns, included false business deductions in order to reduce the very substantial tax liability he faced as of February 2020.

At sentencing, Hunter Biden faces a maximum penalty of 17 years in prison. Actual sentences for federal crimes are typically less than the maximum penalties. A federal district court judge will determine any sentence after taking into account the U.S. Sentencing Guidelines and other statutory factors.
Court documents and information for this case is located on the website of the District Court for the Central District of California or on PACER by searching for Case No. 2:23-cr-00599.
Updated September 6, 2024

If you're genuinely equating cheating on taxes and lying on a form when purchasing a gun, with a serious attempt to subvert democracy by Trump and his supporters, then I'm afraid you've gone a bit daft mate.

I don't think anyone here agrees with the concept of a presidential pardon, but saying Biden is as bad as Trump (then or now), simply doesn't stand up to examination.

SIR ERNIE · Dec 2, 2024

duffer said:
If you're genuinely equating cheating on taxes and lying on a form when purchasing a gun, with a serious attempt to subvert democracy by Trump and his supporters, then I'm afraid you've gone a bit daft mate.

I don't think anyone here agrees with the concept of a presidential pardon, but saying Biden is as bad as Trump (then or now), simply doesn't stand up to examination.

You appear to have imagined that I mentioned Trump. Seems you've gone a bit daft mate.

Como · Dec 2, 2024

With his pardon of son Hunter, Joe Biden delivers a heartfelt hypocrisy

President and supporters argue Hunter Biden would never have been charged if not for his name. But this exercise of power also looks like validation of Trump

www.theguardian.com

I am not surprised at all that Hunter has been pardoned. No one I know was expecting him to spend a day in jail.

Just to be clear he did not pardon him for the 2 crimes he was awaiting sentencing on, he pardoned him for everything.

duffer · Dec 2, 2024

SIR ERNIE said:
You appear to have imagined that I mentioned Trump. Seems you've gone a bit daft mate.

Ah, apologies, it's just you seem to be here mostly as a Trump apologist. But maybe I've misread you...

Just to check, you're you're against Trump issuing pardons as well then?

duffer · Dec 2, 2024

Como said:
With his pardon of son Hunter, Joe Biden delivers a heartfelt hypocrisy

President and supporters argue Hunter Biden would never have been charged if not for his name. But this exercise of power also looks like validation of Trump

www.theguardian.com

I am not surprised at all that Hunter has been pardoned. No one I know was expecting him to spend a day in jail.

Just to be clear he did not pardon him for the 2 crimes he was awaiting sentencing on, he pardoned him for everything.

So again, just checking, are you for presidential pardons or against them?

SIR ERNIE · Dec 2, 2024

Como said:
With his pardon of son Hunter, Joe Biden delivers a heartfelt hypocrisy

President and supporters argue Hunter Biden would never have been charged if not for his name. But this exercise of power also looks like validation of Trump

www.theguardian.com

I am not surprised at all that Hunter has been pardoned. No one I know was expecting him to spend a day in jail.

Just to be clear he did not pardon him for the 2 crimes he was awaiting sentencing on, he pardoned him for everything.

Agreed, Biden was always going to pardon him. He couldn't do it before the election but has nothing to lose now. It's also very significant that he can't now be touched for anything which reinforces the view that the two convictions were just the tip of the iceberg.

Brighton Sky Blue · Dec 2, 2024

SIR ERNIE said:
Agreed, Biden was always going to pardon him. He couldn't do it before the election but has nothing to lose now. It's also very significant that he can't now be touched for anything which reinforces the view that the two convictions were just the tip of the iceberg.

Remind me how many convictions your hero had?

Grendel · Dec 2, 2024

Brighton Sky Blue said:
Remind me how many convictions your hero had?

It’s funny you seem perplexed Trump won the election. The like of self awareness is astonishing

Trump is my favourite comedian of the year already (19 Viewers)

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Users who are viewing this thread

Privacy & Transparency

Privacy & Transparency