Otis
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They will I'm sure. Have loads of time to replace her
They will I'm sure. Have loads of time to replace herI listened to Kam and she seemed to imply she would be involved going forward.
I assume they would dump her asap.
No they are not. The only thing that really matters is where they are economically and they are firmly on the right wing of politics.Again, I disagree. Economically speaking, they are more Tory than Labour, agreed. I think that is more of a nuance to American politics.
However their ideological stance on social issues are further Left than Labour. Taking everything into totality, I think they veer to the centre-left, even by European standards.
It’s also not even true. Trump’s campaign spent the last few weeks focusing their adverts on trans athletes, the Harris campaign focused on economics.What the hell!!!
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Transgenderism and abortions are the domain of the upper classes?
I think you might need to research politics a bit more, as that is not how it works...No they are not. The only thing that really matters is where they are economically and they are firmly on the right wing of politics.
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Supposedly the Dems blew over a billion dollars on Kamala's campaign and currently 20m in debt
They’ve just run a presidential campaign of course they’re in debt.
With the amount of donations and money spent. Supporters are not happy and calling for an audit.
These people should probably look at what a nationwide media campaign in the US costs.
This did cheer me up from Tory FBPE pinup
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With the insane amounts of money we're talking about is $20m debt really a big issue? I mean to me and you it would be but when you're burning through hundreds of millions a week maybe not so much.With the amount of donations and money spent. Supporters are not happy and calling for an audit.
300m dollars a month burn rate is crazy
No they are not. The only thing that really matters is where they are economically and they are firmly on the right wing of politics.
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With the insane amounts of money we're talking about is $20m debt really a big issue? I mean to me and you it would be but when you're burning through hundreds of millions a week maybe not so much.
With the insane amounts of money we're talking about is $20m debt really a big issue? I mean to me and you it would be but when you're burning through hundreds of millions a week maybe not so much.
She can stuff a few pillows instead I suppose?There are some unforeseen consequences
With the insane amounts of money we're talking about is $20m debt really a big issue? I mean to me and you it would be but when you're burning through hundreds of millions a week maybe not so much.
Exactly. People will believe what they want to believe and most of the reasons given for people voting Trump are incoherent. The fact the polls underestimate how many people will vote for him - despite trying to control for it - says a lot.It’s also not even true. Trump’s campaign spent the last few weeks focusing their adverts on trans athletes, the Harris campaign focused on economics.
Still, makes no difference. If people on here believe the bullshit narrative obviously American voters will too.
The only people who kept going on about Harris’ race and gender were on the other side. ‘Is she Indian or is she black?’ Trump liked to ask.Exactly. People will believe what they want to believe and most of the reasons given for people voting Trump are incoherent. The fact the polls underestimate how many people will vote for him - despite trying to control for it - says a lot.
The economics for ordinary people were bad. Inflation was up 9% and food groceries were up 20%. Bill Clinton’s adage of ‘it’s the economy, stupid’ rung true again - inflation growth trumped GDP growth in this election.It’s also not even true. Trump’s campaign spent the last few weeks focusing their adverts on trans athletes, the Harris campaign focused on economics.
Still, makes no difference. If people on here believe the bullshit narrative obviously American voters will too.
They are US based.
Trump spent significantly less.
But I guess paying silly money for celebrity endorsements wasn't that wise in the end.
I’m just saying what I saw. The Harris campaign did focus heavily on economic messaging, the Trump campaign focused on trans athletes and to a lesser degree immigration. JD Vance who you seem to think was the bees’ knees chose not to turn up to vote on increasing child tax credit despite claiming he supports doing that.The economics for ordinary people were bad. Inflation was up 9% and food groceries were up 20%. Bill Clinton’s adage of ‘it’s the economy, stupid’ rung true again - inflation growth trumped GDP growth in this election.
Bernie Sanders put it best when he called out the Harris campaign for failing to talk about ‘bread and butter’ issues traditional Democrat tend to care about.
Every demographic swung to Trump barring college educated women. The whole country cannot be wrong - they clearly reject Harris’ messaging. She tried to simultaneously distance herself from the Biden administration as a ‘change candidate’ without specifically saying what she’d change - the Dems have been in charge for 12 of the last 16 years too.
If the Democrats hold the same view you do in their election post-mortem, they won’t win back office for a long time.
It’s incredible, for all the talk of media bias towards the dems I couldn’t tell you a single thing about Harris and I can’t think that I’ve ever heard her talk. She’s was VP for the last 4 years!Trump gets free press everywhere he goes and raises most of his money off the books.
It’s incredible, for all the talk of media bias towards the dems I couldn’t tell you a single thing about Harris and I can’t think that I’ve ever heard her talk. She’s was VP for the last 4 years!
Meanwhile Trump like Farage is in my fucking newsfeeds constantly and just somehow part of broader culture via memes etc.
Yes, if you watch CNN or read the Guardian they support the dems but of course they do.
She didn’t avoid interviews, another mythThat’s because she avoided interviews etc. trump for all his faults (which are many) is a great self publicist. Harris wasn’t trusted to do anything. There is no way she should’ve got the gig without going through some kind of primaries/selection process
A lot of mainstream media were anti Trump more than pro Harris because of this. Like the remain v Brexit vote, the negative messaging alone wasn’t enough
Of the two candidates, I believe Trump is a better candidate and ran a better campaign.I’m just saying what I saw. The Harris campaign did focus heavily on economic messaging, the Trump campaign focused on trans athletes and to a lesser degree immigration. JD Vance who you seem to think was the bees’ knees chose not to turn up to vote on increasing child tax credit despite claiming he supports doing that.
It is simpler to view the election as a referendum on the incumbent party and through that lens, no Democrat could have won this election because the country as a whole rejected their handling of affairs. If the full ‘Build Back Better’ package had gone through I imagine the result would have been turned on its head.
She had a teleprompter at a town hall and would only appear on sympathetic outlets. Her appearance on 60 minutes and Fox News were disasters - Harris is an expert filibuster.She didn’t avoid interviews, another myth
I mean I just straight up disagree with this and that’s pretty much all there is to it. To say you think Trump was genuinely the better candidate does astonish me coming from you though.Of the two candidates, I believe Trump is a better candidate and ran a better campaign.
She didn’t avoid interviews, another myth
She was actually very good in the FOX interview, and Brett Baier afterwards admitted as much. He tried setting traps, got called out and looked a bit silly.She did initially. Tried to do a few more later on
Good summary. While Trump might be a loon and full of shit he’s effective.This is very, very good and well worth a watch.
Slams Harris and the Democrats quite a lot in this.
2016 Trump was the best campaign of the three. Populist economically, mentally sharper and he deservedly beat Clinton.Good summary. While Trump might be a loon and full of shit he’s effective.
Yeah that’s probably true2016 Trump was the best campaign of the three. Populist economically, mentally sharper and he deservedly beat Clinton.
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