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Trump is my favourite comedian of the year already (24 Viewers)

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Otis

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  • May 14, 2024
  • #4,726
skybluetony176 said:
I don’t think it’s a case of him gaining votes Otis. From what I’ve read Biden is losing votes with the younger generation over Israel/Gaza. No indication that the votes are going to Trump, just Biden is losing young voters.
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Okay. That makes sense.

Surely Trump's stance is the same though isn't it?
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • May 14, 2024
  • #4,727
Otis said:
Surely Trump's stance is the same though isn't it?
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Guess the difference is Trumps supporters see nothing wrong with dropping bombs on Gaza
 
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SIR ERNIE

Well-Known Member
  • May 14, 2024
  • #4,728
Inflation and immigration are by far the main voter issues.
 

skybluetony176

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  • May 14, 2024
  • #4,729
Otis said:
Okay. That makes sense.

Surely Trump's stance is the same though isn't it?
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Hard to say. The difference is I guess Trump has a loyalty base based on empty rhetoric, the people who are going to vote for him are going to vote for him. The votes Biden needs are from voters capable of independent thinking based on the evidence of their own eyes rather than just toe the line regardless of the evidence of their own eyes. Don’t think this is a case of swapping votes, more a case of can’t vote Trump but can’t vote for Biden either based on his Israel/Gaza stance.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • May 16, 2024
  • #4,730
CCFCSteve said:
Not forgetting the walking out on Afganistán with no proper dialogue or planning with allies. The economy over there has been doing unbelievably well in terms of GDP/on the surface but inflation has been and remains high, there’s been a huge influx of migration that has kept the poorest wages suppressed (although has probably helped jobs market from overheating), massive amounts of government borrowing (which is now out of control - trump was also bad) and to buy a new home you need to take out a 7-7.5% mortgage on properties where prices have gone through the roof.

There are major cracks forming and he’s got to hope it holds together until the election. If unemployment starts to rise it could be the straw that broke the camel (publics) back

Trump would be a disaster for democracy
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Where are you getting these economic facts from?

Wages for the lowest paid are rising faster than any other group:

The lowest-paid U.S. workers are seeing their wages surge faster than any other group of earners

www.morningstar.com

Inflation is at 3.4% which is fairly normal for developed economies right now.

US inflation at 3.4% in April, dropping slightly from previous month

Policymakers have been surprised by stubborn price growth, which they hoped to bring down to 2%, in recent months
amp.theguardian.com

House prices are high like all the anglophone nations, but the US economy generally is in a much better place than most developed economies post covid.
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • May 16, 2024
  • #4,731
shmmeee said:
Where are you getting these economic facts from?

Wages for the lowest paid are rising faster than any other group:

The lowest-paid U.S. workers are seeing their wages surge faster than any other group of earners

www.morningstar.com

Inflation is at 3.4% which is fairly normal for developed economies right now.

US inflation at 3.4% in April, dropping slightly from previous month

Policymakers have been surprised by stubborn price growth, which they hoped to bring down to 2%, in recent months
amp.theguardian.com

House prices are high like all the anglophone nations, but the US economy generally is in a much better place than most developed economies post covid.
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The article highlights the fact that they still don’t earn enough to meet basic needs and in such a tight/hot labour market wages should’ve therefore risen even higher but haven’t. I probably worded my post wrong in that respect and shouldn’t have just said poorest. It’s worth bearing in mind though that there’s a massive discrepancy amongst states in the US which would’ve skewed the overall figures and federal mandated mIn wage hasn’t changed in years

Wage growth vs inflation U.S. 2024| Statista

The rate of inflation overtook the growth of wages in April 2021. High rates of inflation means that consumers are seeing a decrease in purchasing power
www.statista.com

The above and your article is based on CPI inflation but in reality the poorest/lower income earners get hit by certain elements of inflation a lot harder ie food, shelter etc. These have been running very high and food in particular has only just started to cool a bit in the recent months. In addition true inflation numbers likely far exceed CPI. In the last 3-4 years the compounded inflation is estimated around 25% (truflation)

Biden has obviously done a lot more to try to help working people than trump would but due to inflation many aren’t seeing or feeling it and the ‘real terms’ increase probably just hasn’t been reflected by the reality. For an economy that has performed so well on the surface and considering the level of government expenditure, he should be pissing it in the polls but he’s not. That suggests there’s a disconnect somewhere
 
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Flying Fokker

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  • May 26, 2024
  • #4,732
 

clint van damme

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  • May 26, 2024
  • #4,733
Flying Fokker said:
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Why he went to speak to that bunch is beyond me, they're bigger crackpots than he is.
 

shmmeee

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  • May 28, 2024
  • #4,734
Amazing

 
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PVA

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  • May 29, 2024
  • #4,735
Jurors currently deliberating on the criminal trial.

Should get a verdict tomorrow, if not today.
 

shmmeee

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  • May 29, 2024
  • #4,736
There’s no way he goes down surely? There would be riots. Some kind of slap on the wrist at worst I’m betting.
 
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Otis

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  • May 30, 2024
  • #4,737
shmmeee said:
There’s no way he goes down surely? There would be riots. Some kind of slap on the wrist at worst I’m betting.
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Yeah. It needs all 12 jurors to agree and I don't think they will. The key witness, Michael Cohen, is not exactly the sort of key witness you need is he, a convicted felon.
 
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Flying Fokker

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  • May 30, 2024
  • #4,738
Otis said:
Yeah. It needs all 12 jurors to agree and I don't think they will. The key witness, Michael Cohen, is not exactly the sort of key witness you need is he, a convicted felon.
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I think he will be convicted on more than half the counts. Trump didn’t take the stand and the paper evidence is strong. As you suggest, the jury may not all agree.
 

clint van damme

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  • May 30, 2024
  • #4,739
Otis said:
The key witness, Michael Cohen, is not exactly the sort of key witness you need is he, a convicted felon.
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He was an associate of Trumps, not many of them aren't.
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • May 30, 2024
  • #4,740
Wow!
 
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SIR ERNIE

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  • May 30, 2024
  • #4,741
As expected.
 
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David O'Day

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  • May 30, 2024
  • #4,742
never in doubt
 

Alan Dugdales Moustache

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  • May 30, 2024
  • #4,743
Haha. Everyone's an expert !
 

skybluetony176

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  • May 30, 2024
  • #4,744
WITCH-HUNT!!!
 

chiefdave

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  • May 30, 2024
  • #4,745
Trump's team is requesting a date of mid-to-late July for sentencing because of a conflict with another court hearing in Florida.
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Just the type of person you want running for president
 

chiefdave

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  • May 30, 2024
  • #4,746
skybluetony176 said:
WITCH-HUNT!!!
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close, "this was a rigged trial"
 
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David O'Day

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  • May 30, 2024
  • #4,747
chiefdave said:
close, "this was a rigged trial"
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He's taken it really badly, lovely stuff really.
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • May 30, 2024
  • #4,748
Haha that statement, he's absolutely insane
 
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Liquid Gold

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  • May 30, 2024
  • #4,749
Breaking News: Donald Trump selected as Labour candidate for Islington North and will serve as Justice secretary in a Starmer government
 
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David O'Day

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  • May 30, 2024
  • #4,750
Liquid Gold said:
Breaking News: Donald Trump selected as Labour candidate for Islington North and will serve as Justice secretary in a Starmer government
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Get over it
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • May 30, 2024
  • #4,751
skybluetony176 said:
WITCH-HUNT!!!
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What else is he going to say?

Anything and everything, that ever goes against him, or has gone against him, he says is rigged/corrupt/pointless/lies and a disgrace.

He's the only honest dude in the world. Well, him and his yes men, until they are no longer his yes men and they they too become a disgrace and are liars and corrupt too.
 
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wingy

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  • May 30, 2024
  • #4,752
Did the jury get that clarification from the judge then?
 

Otis

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  • May 30, 2024
  • #4,753
Oh, I see he's not an innocent man, he's a VERY innocent man.

They guy is insane.
 
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shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • May 30, 2024
  • #4,754
Love it when everyone in the thread reacts to something that’s not in the thread. Off to Twitter I go lol
 
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ajsccfc

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  • May 30, 2024
  • #4,755
I assume nothing will actually happen to him still but at least he's officially a criminal if nothing else. Fuck him and all his supporters
 
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chiefdave

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  • May 30, 2024
  • #4,756
Didn't take long for the grifting to start. Innocent people always have stuff like this ready to go the second the verdict comes in
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • May 30, 2024
  • #4,757
Otis said:
Oh, I see he's not an innocent man, he's a VERY innocent man.

The guy is insane.
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The most innocent man the world has ever seen.
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • May 30, 2024
  • #4,758
Unfortunately I doubt anything much will happen to him.
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • May 30, 2024
  • #4,759
Sick Boy said:
Unfortunately I doubt anything much will happen to him.
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It's bad for his campaign though, yes it will fire up his base but the actual people he needs to vote for him are independent moderates and this is likely to turn a large number off of that.

People forget he needs normal people to vote for him as well.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • May 30, 2024
  • #4,760
Liquid Gold said:
Apparently thats always the way it's been. They turn up big numbers, go wild, boo the press and piss off before the end. Seen a few BBC and various news articles on it first time around.
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The traffic from all those pick up trucks must be awful so can't blame the lads to be fair
 
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