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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Mar 22, 2024
  • #4,621
Otis said:
Not sure I agree on the Hitler-esque, but agree with everything else.

He is such a dangerous individual.
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Not in every sense, but the way in which he has developed a personality cult that means some people will overlook absolutely anything he says or does as either made up or justified and how he looks to blame certain parts of society for the country's ills are pretty similar.
 

skybluetony176

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  • Mar 22, 2024
  • #4,622
fatso said:
Yea, I'd sooner have Biden as he's doing such a great job of taking the world to the brink of WW3 while systematically trashing the American economy.
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The US economy is currently the envy of the world as its bucking trends in the west and is having record growth while unemployment is at record low levels. Not sure where you’re getting he’s thrashing the economy from. And surely it’s Putin who is intent on starting WW3?
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Mar 22, 2024
  • #4,623
Otis said:
Not sure I agree on the Hitler-esque, but agree with everything else.

He is such a dangerous individual.
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The fake news claims is straight out of the Nazi playbook, they called it Lügenpresse. I’ve heard it be suggested that Goebbels invented the term Main Stream Media but I’m not sure that’s true.
 

fatso

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  • Mar 22, 2024
  • #4,624
skybluetony176 said:
The US economy is currently the envy of the world as its bucking trends in the west and is having record growth while unemployment is at record low levels. Not sure where you’re getting he’s thrashing the economy from. And surely it’s Putin who is intent on starting WW3?
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It's Biden who is the war monger. Biden who is intent on Nato expansionism and Biden who attempted to park weapons on Russia's door step. (Almost like the Cuban missile crisis in reverse)

Anyone who still believes that Putin's incursion into Ukraine was unprovoked, clearly has no grasp on what's been happening in recent years.

As for the US economy, its a basket case, they are trillions of dollars in debt and are having to raise the debt ceiling to unsustainable levels just to pay the wages of the government employees.
It's literally on the brink of collapse.
Go check it out.

https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2023/06/us-debt-ceiling-explainer-what-to-know/

And it's got worse since then!!!
 
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PVA

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  • Mar 22, 2024
  • #4,625
fatso said:
Anyone who still believes that Putin's incursion into Ukraine was unprovoked, clearly has no grasp on what's been happening in recent years.
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This is such an insanely stupid viewpoint.

There is literally only one nation (one person even) responsible for Russia invading Ukraine and it sure as hell ain't the USA/Biden.

Edit: just realised you're the guy who thinks the moon landings were fake.
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Mar 22, 2024
  • #4,626
fatso said:
It's Biden who is the war monger. Biden who is intent on Nato expansionism and Biden who attempted to park weapons on Russia's door step. (Almost like the Cuban missile crisis in reverse)

Anyone who still believes that Putin's incursion into Ukraine was unprovoked, clearly has no grasp on what's been happening in recent years.

As for the US economy, its a basket case, they are trillions of dollars in debt and are having to raise the debt ceiling to unsustainable levels just to pay the wages of the government employees.
It's literally on the brink of collapse.
Go check it out.
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Invasion. The word is invasion. You’ll be blaming us for WW2 next claiming Hitler was just misunderstood.
 
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SBT

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  • Mar 22, 2024
  • #4,627
When @fatso (of “NASA faked the moon landings” fame) is quoting the World Economic Forum then you know it’s definitely time to move to whisky
 
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fatso

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  • Mar 22, 2024
  • #4,628
skybluetony176 said:
Invasion. The word is invasion. You’ll be blaming us for WW2 next claiming Hitler was just misunderstood.
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That is a completely rediculous response.
Your clearly clueless as to the recent history of Ukraine.
 

fatso

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  • Mar 22, 2024
  • #4,629
SBT said:
When @fatso (of “NASA faked the moon landings” fame) is quoting the World Economic Forum then you know it’s definitely time to move to whisky
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I think your no stranger to whisky given some of your previous posts.
 
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SBT

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  • Mar 22, 2024
  • #4,630
fatso said:
I think your no stranger to whisky given some of your previous posts.
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shmmeee

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  • Mar 22, 2024
  • #4,631
wingy said:
Hard when your president is OK with genicide?
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Whereas Trump is well known for his balanced attitude to the Israel Palestine question.

I need to stay off Off Topic, this place is going to give me an aneurism in election year.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Mar 22, 2024
  • #4,632
fatso said:
It's Biden who is the war monger. Biden who is intent on Nato expansionism and Biden who attempted to park weapons on Russia's door step. (Almost like the Cuban missile crisis in reverse)

Anyone who still believes that Putin's incursion into Ukraine was unprovoked, clearly has no grasp on what's been happening in recent years.

As for the US economy, its a basket case, they are trillions of dollars in debt and are having to raise the debt ceiling to unsustainable levels just to pay the wages of the government employees.
It's literally on the brink of collapse.
Go check it out.

https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2023/06/us-debt-ceiling-explainer-what-to-know/

And it's got worse since then!!!
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Haha. Is this your first day following US politics? The right over there have been claiming the country is on the brink of economic collapse because of the debt for the last 40 years. Meanwhile it goes from strength to strength.

You really need to get your news from proper outlets.
 
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Otis

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  • Mar 22, 2024
  • #4,633
shmmeee said:
Haha. Is this your first day following US politics? The right over there have been claiming the country is on the brink of economic collapse because of the debt for the last 40 years. Meanwhile it goes from strength to strength.

You really need to get your news from proper outlets.
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Otis

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  • Mar 22, 2024
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Otis

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clint van damme

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  • Mar 23, 2024
  • #4,636
fatso said:
The reality (unfortunately) is that the choice for Americans will be a straight one between Trump and Biden.
If that's the case the only option for global security simply has to be Trump.

Personally I couldn't care less how many times he's been made bankrupt. (And once he becomes POTUS the legal issues will be instantly quashed) Sticking with the mentally impaired Biden will almost inevitably see more widespread global wars and the inevitable conflict with China. Who in their right mind would want to vote for that.
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I honestly can't believe you think someone who is going to give free reign to Putin is good for global security.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Mar 23, 2024
  • #4,637
Otis said:

24 former Trump allies and aides who turned against him​




There is a long list of one-time allies and aides who have either turned against former President Donald Trump or whom he has turned against.
No person in US politics – certainly no recent president – has such an expansive list of high-profile allies turned enemies.

His longest-serving White House chief of staff, retired Marine Gen. John Kelly, delivered an incredible rebuke of Trump’s personality and leadership in an on-the-record statement to CNN’s Jake Tapper.


1. His vice president, Mike Pence: “The American people deserve to know that President Trump asked me to put him over my oath to the Constitution. … Anyone who puts himself over the Constitution should never be president of the United States.”

2. His second attorney general, Bill Barr: “Someone who engaged in that kind of bullying about a process that is fundamental to our system and to our self-government shouldn’t be anywhere near the Oval Office.”

3. His first secretary of defense, James Mattis: “Donald Trump is the first president in my lifetime who does not try to unite the American people – does not even pretend to try. Instead he tries to divide us.”

4. His second secretary of defense, Mark Esper: “I think he’s unfit for office. … He puts himself before country. His actions are all about him and not about the country. And then, of course, I believe he has integrity and character issues as well.”

5. His chairman of the joint chiefs, retired Gen. Mark Milley, seemed to invoke Trump: “We don’t take an oath to a wannabe dictator. We take an oath to the Constitution and we take an oath to the idea that is America – and we’re willing to die to protect it.”

6. His first secretary of state, Rex Tillerson: “(Trump’s) understanding of global events, his understanding of global history, his understanding of US history was really limited. It’s really hard to have a conversation with someone who doesn’t even understand the concept for why we’re talking about this.”

7. His first ambassador to the United Nations, Nikki Haley: “He used to be good on foreign policy and now he has started to walk it back and get weak in the knees when it comes to Ukraine. A terrible thing happened on January 6 and he called it a beautiful day.”

8. His presidential transition vice-chairman, Chris Christie: “Someone who I would argue now is just out for himself.”

9. His second national security adviser, HR McMaster: “We saw the absence of leadership, really anti-leadership, and what that can do to our country.”

10. His third national security adviser, John Bolton: “I believe (foreign leaders) think he is a laughing fool.”

11. His second chief of staff, John
Kelly: “A person that has nothing but contempt for our democratic institutions, our Constitution, and the rule of law. There is nothing more that can be said. God help us.”

12. His former acting chief of staff, Mick Mulvaney, who resigned as US special envoy to Ireland after January 6, 2021: “I quit because I think he failed at being the president when we needed him to be that.”

13. One of his many former communications directors, Anthony Scaramucci: “He is the domestic terrorist of the 21st century.”

14. Another former communications director, Stephanie Grisham: “I am terrified of him running in 2024.”

15. His secretary of education, Betsy DeVos, who resigned after January 6: “When I saw what was happening on January 6 and didn’t see the president step in and do what he could have done to turn it back or slow it down or really address the situation, it was just obvious to me that I couldn’t continue.”

16. His secretary of transportation, Elaine Chao, who resigned after January 6: “At a particular point the events were such that it was impossible for me to continue, given my personal values and my philosophy.

17. His first secretary of the Navy, Richard Spencer: “…the president has very little understanding of what it means to be in the military, to fight ethically or to be governed by a uniform set of rules and practices.”

18. His first homeland security adviser, Tom Bossert: “The President undermined American democracy baselessly for months. As a result, he’s culpable for this siege, and an utter disgrace.”

19. His former personal lawyer and fixer, Michael Cohen: “Donald’s an idiot.”

20. His White House lawyer, Ty Cobb: “Trump relentlessly puts forth claims that are not true.”

21. A former director of strategic communications, Alyssa Farah Griffin, who is now a CNN political commentator: “We can stand by the policies, but at this point we cannot stand by the man.”

22. A top aide in charge of his outreach to African Americans, Omarosa Manigault Newman: “Donald Trump, who would attack civil rights icons and professional athletes, who would go after grieving black widows, who would say there were good people on both sides, who endorsed an accused child molester; Donald Trump, and his decisions and his behavior, was harming the country. I could no longer be a part
of this madness.”
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Sarah Matthews, former deputy White House press secretary, arrives to testify before the House select committee investigating the January 6 attack in the Cannon House Office Building on July 21, 2022.

23. A former deputy press secretary, Sarah Matthews, who resigned after January 6: “I thought that he did do a lot of good during his four years. I think that his actions on January 6 and the lead-up to it, the way that he’s acted in the aftermath, and his continuation of pushing this lie that the election is stolen has made him wholly unfit to hold office every again.”

24. His final chief of staff’s aide, Cassidy Hutchinson: “I think that Donald Trump is the most grave threat we will face to our democracy in our lifetime, and potentially in American history.”


And this is from October. I am pretty sure the list has grown since then.


And these are all the people he chose to serve under him. If you think they are all dodgy or crooked, what does that say about Trump?
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Now list those closecto him who have been prosecuted and jailed!
 
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clint van damme

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  • Mar 23, 2024
  • #4,638
fatso said:
It's Biden who is the war monger. Biden who is intent on Nato expansionism and Biden who attempted to park weapons on Russia's door step. (Almost like the Cuban missile crisis in reverse)

Anyone who still believes that Putin's incursion into Ukraine was unprovoked, clearly has no grasp on what's been happening in recent years.

As for the US economy, its a basket case, they are trillions of dollars in debt and are having to raise the debt ceiling to unsustainable levels just to pay the wages of the government employees.
It's literally on the brink of collapse.
Go check it out.

https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2023/06/us-debt-ceiling-explainer-what-to-know/

And it's got worse since then!!!
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It's possible to disagree with NATO expansion and also know that now Putin has invaded Ukraine he can't be left to do what he wants
He won't stop at Ukraine if he can get away with it and everyone in the region knows it.
 
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Otis

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  • Mar 23, 2024
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Not sure Fatso is aware that over 350 psychiatrists and mental health professionals have signed a petition saying that Trump's mental health is declining.

We know Biden is struggling, but so too is Trump.

And Trump is a much more unhinged, dangerous individual. A complete narcissist, liar, cheat, homophobic, misogynistic rapist.

Whatever the answer is, it can't be Trump.

I don't like Biden either, but one is a lot more dangerous and vengeful and hate filled than the other.
 
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Otis

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  • Mar 23, 2024
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Deleted member 9744

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Otis said:
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Not sure Fatso is aware that over 350 psychiatrists and mental health professionals have signed a petition saying that Trump's mental health is declining.

We know Biden is struggling, but so too is Trump.

And Trump is a much more unhinged, dangerous individual. A complete narcissist, liar, cheat, homophobic, misogynistic rapist.

Whatever the answer is, it can't be Trump.

I don't like Biden either, but one is a lot more dangerous and vengeful and hate filled than the other.
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There can't be many people on the planet less well suited to be President of the USA than Trump. There might be a psychopath languishing in a jail somewhere who'd be worse but that's about it.
 
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Otis

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  • Mar 23, 2024
  • #4,642
Deleted member 9744 said:
There can't be many people on the planet less well suited to be President of the USA than Trump. There might be a psychopath languishing in a jail somewhere who'd be worse but that's about it.
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It's mad that in such a huge country, the two options are Biden or Trump.

Madness.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Mar 23, 2024
  • #4,643
Otis said:
It's mad that in such a huge country, the two options are Biden or Trump.

Madness.
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It’s the ultimate destination for a two party system of democracy isn’t it?
There must be a theory of all great nations over time
 

Grendel

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  • Mar 23, 2024
  • #4,644
skybluetony176 said:
The fake news claims is straight out of the Nazi playbook, they called it Lügenpresse. I’ve heard it be suggested that Goebbels invented the term Main Stream Media but I’m not sure that’s true.
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You “heard”? Who told you? Himmler? The next doors cat?
 
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wingy

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  • Mar 23, 2024
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We've had our here for a while now,and they're finished so I wouldn't worry, now I don't know if they do the same over their to mask the genuine numbers IE official but it'd be a good rebuttal!!
 

Otis

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  • Mar 23, 2024
  • #4,646
wingy said:
We've had our here for a while now,and they're finished so I wouldn't worry, now I don't know if they do the same over their to mask the genuine numbers IE official but it'd be a good rebuttal!!
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Could you say that again in English, Wingy?
 
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Flying Fokker

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  • Mar 23, 2024
  • #4,647
hamertime said:
Hitler-Esque

Everything the bloke says is about right. Got on with the most dangerous leaders in the world, the economy was great. Just because a few celebs jumped on the bandwagon they got him out.

Will be the best thing that could ever happen to America if he gets in.
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God…I never thought our right wing was so far right.

What self-respecting person could justify his disgusting rhetoric?

The ‘West and Europe’ will be unrecognizable in a few years time if everyone bows to Trump and does Fock all to stand up to Putin et al.


It’s going to smack us in the face.
 

Flying Fokker

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  • Mar 23, 2024
  • #4,648
fatso said:
That is a completely rediculous response.
Your clearly clueless as to the recent history of Ukraine.
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You need to do more reading. Ukraine is multi-faceted, steeped in history. Magyars, Cossacks, The Rus and far more. Nothing was taken by Ukraine. Crimea was given away by Stalin due to it being unworkable.

Russia needed a wet port so they invaded Crimea. Russia will take Poland and other states if nothing is done.
 
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hamertime

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  • Mar 23, 2024
  • #4,649
Flying Fokker said:
God…I never thought our right wing was so far right.

What self-respecting person could justify his disgusting rhetoric?

The ‘West and Europe’ will be unrecognizable in a few years time if everyone bows to Trump and does Fock all to stand up to Putin et al.


It’s going to smack us in the face.
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The majority of Americans want trump. You think he is thick? He is one of the most successful humans on the planet.
 
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SBT

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  • Mar 23, 2024
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hamertime said:
The majority of Americans want trump.
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Well I guess we’ll find out in November - he’s never won a majority of votes in a presidential election.

He’s certainly had a successful career, although a shame he can’t seem to find the money for his bond conditions in NY.
 
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PVA

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  • Mar 23, 2024
  • #4,651
hamertime said:
He is one of the most successful humans on the planet.
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Yeah he's a real self made man, a true rags to riches story. Incredible he became so successful from such humble beginnings!

According to a New York Times report in 2018, Trump received at least $413 million (in 2018 prices) from his father's business empire.[9] Drawing upon more than 100,000 pages of tax returns and financial records from Fred Trump's businesses and interviews with former advisers and employees, the Times found 295 distinct streams of revenue that Fred Trump created over five decades in order to channel his wealth to his son.

Trump is the beneficiary of several trust funds set up by his father and paternal grandmother beginning in 1949 when he was three years old.[15] According to The New York Times, he "was a millionaire by age 8."
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TomRad85

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clint van damme

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  • Mar 23, 2024
  • #4,653
PVA said:
Yeah he's a real self made man, a true rags to riches story. Incredible he became so successful from such humble beginnings!
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His old nan propped up his failing casino business in Atlantic City illegally as well.
 
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SBT

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  • Mar 23, 2024
  • #4,654
I don’t think anyone can claim he’s not successful, the man was a washed up reality host who became President of the United States!
 
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clint van damme

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SBT said:
I don’t think anyone can claim he’s not successful, the man was a washed up reality host who became President of the United States!
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A lot to do with Bannon.
He may be a far right, racist, thieving fucking tramp, but he's a very, very smart far right, racist, thieving fucking tramp.
 
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