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  • Start date May 15, 2023
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Deity

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  • Jun 24, 2023
  • #1,296
DrPoolittle said:
But King told us that.

Doug King made it clear: additional money for transfers has to come from increased ticket sales. Or player sales.

There is no intent to invest more than that
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That’s not actually what he said.
 
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Deity

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  • Jun 24, 2023
  • #1,297
fernandopartridge said:
It shouldn't necessarily mean that the sequencing needs to be sell first then buy, otherwise what's different to when SISU were in charge?

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The difference ( hopefully ) is the proportion of the incoming fees that King will allocate back to the playing budget.

The other difference is the investment in the training pitches at Ryton from King himself that didn’t happen for over a decade under SISU.
 

shmmeee

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  • Jun 24, 2023
  • #1,298
King did say when he came in if the right player is there the money is there. You’d hope that if we’ve spotted another Gus or Vik we’d be able to jump on them, if not drop £4m on Yates or whoever.
 
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Deity

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  • Jun 24, 2023
  • #1,299
King has built his businesses on the intelligent use of data to support business decisions. I suspect that the recruitment team will have to use data to a much higher degree than previously to explain their recommendations.
 
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djr8369

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  • Jun 24, 2023
  • #1,300
SeaSeeEffCee said:
I understand the anxiety over the lack of signings, especially when we need so many in. Don’t especially buy that it’s ‘too early’ either. In the League Two promotion season we signed 8 players before July 1st and in the League One promotion season we’d signed 10 by then. It would be nice to have at least 4 or 5 new faces in for the start of pre-season.
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Any idea when those signing started? As others have said most of the footballing world seems to be on holiday still.
 

shmmeee

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  • Jun 24, 2023
  • #1,301
Two ways to look at it I guess. Maybe Dasilva is the only one lined up because the others cost a fee and who we go for depends on who goes. If Gus and Vik go we spend in every other position, if neither do we make do in most, and whatever in between.

The two big stories so far have been Viks transfer and Gus’ contract. If we can have those mostly sorted next week, I think you’d see us start to move pretty quickly.
 

Grendel

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  • Jun 24, 2023
  • #1,302
Deity said:
King has built his businesses on the intelligent use of data to support business decisions. I suspect that the recruitment team will have to use data to a much higher degree than previously to explain their recommendations.
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What business? What data?
 
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DrPoolittle

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  • Jun 24, 2023
  • #1,303
Deity said:
That’s not actually what he said.
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It’s pretty close. I don’t have the article in front of me but it struck me at the time that he wasn’t offering the “investment “ that some fans seem to expect
 

Skybluedownunder

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  • Jun 24, 2023
  • #1,304
Grendel said:
What business? What data?
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He’s an oil tycoon!

… rapeseed oil


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DrPoolittle

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  • Jun 24, 2023
  • #1,305
shmmeee said:
King did say when he came in if the right player is there the money is there. You’d hope that if we’ve spotted another Gus or Vik we’d be able to jump on them, if not drop £4m on Yates or whoever.
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that’s certainly true but SISU did the same thing in signing Hamer and Gyokeres.
I would be surprised to see a £4 million signing unless the club has generated funds first
 
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slowpoke

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  • Jun 24, 2023
  • #1,306
[QUOTE="HuckerbyDublinWhelan, post: 2785028, member: 8869
Two ways to look at it I guess. Maybe Dasilva is the only one lined up because the others cost a fee and who we go for depends on who goes. If Gus and Vik go we spend in every other position, if neither do we make do in most, and whatever in between.

The two big stories so far have been Viks transfer and Gus’ contract. If we can have those mostly sorted next week, I think you’d see us start to move pretty quickly.
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Don’t think there’s any doubt deals are lined up and in the pipeline, even the Vik & Hamer situation MR will have a good idea what’s happening. Could announcements be held back until STs go on general sale to give those sales a boost or push wouldn’t be surprised. Think this will be an interesting week, there’s not been that much activity anywhere.
 

SeaSeeEffCee

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  • Jun 24, 2023
  • #1,307
djr8369 said:
Any idea when those signing started? As others have said most of the footballing world seems to be on holiday still.
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19/20:

McFadzean - 9th May
Dabo - June 5th
Allen - June 28th
Jobello - June 14th
Kastaneer - June 20th
Marosi - May 22nd
Pask - June 17th
Wilson - May 23rd

Didn’t include Rose who we signed on a pre-contract on Jan and Dan Bartlett.

17/18:
Biamou - June 27th
Doyle - May 12th
Hyam - May 24th
Kelly - May 22nd
McDonald - May 19th
McNulty - May 18th
O’Brien - May 24th
Vincenti - June 21st
 
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DrPoolittle

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  • Jun 24, 2023
  • #1,308
Ray Ranson was all for signing players at the end of July in order to not pay for players wages in the close season.
 
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djr8369

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  • Jun 24, 2023
  • #1,309
SeaSeeEffCee said:
19/20:

McFadzean - 9th May
Dabo - June 5th
Allen - June 28th
Jobello - June 14th
Kastaneer - June 20th
Marosi - May 22nd
Pask - June 17th
Wilson - May 23rd

Didn’t include Rose who we signed on a pre-contract on Jan and Dan Bartlett.

17/18:
Biamou - June 27th
Doyle - May 12th
Hyam - May 24th
Kelly - May 22nd
McDonald - May 19th
McNulty - May 18th
O’Brien - May 24th
Vincenti - June 21st
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Blimey. A lot in May and June then.
 
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DrPoolittle

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  • Jun 24, 2023
  • #1,310
fernandopartridge said:
It shouldn't necessarily mean that the sequencing needs to be sell first then buy, otherwise what's different to when SISU were in charge?

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That’s true but given we all seem to have different interpretations of the new owner and his intent, then there will be an expectation management issue to consider
 
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Legia Sky Blue

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  • Jun 24, 2023
  • #1,311
djr8369 said:
Blimey. A lot in May and June then.
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Yes in terms of numbers, but in relation to the League 1 winning season the most influential newcomers on our season came after it had started - O'Hare, Walsh & Godden.
 
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Grendel

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  • Jun 24, 2023
  • #1,312
Skybluedownunder said:
He’s an oil tycoon!

… rapeseed oil


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A company that employees under 50 people and has a turnover of £70 million - it’s not exactly Shell is it?
 
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procdoc

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  • Jun 24, 2023
  • #1,313
HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
That will be another team that finishes above us next season when Stewart comes back.

I’d make it Leicester, Leeds, Southampton, Norwich, Sunderland, Middlesbrough already - that’ll be 1 of Doug’s 5 season plan gone
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Christ
 

Fergusons_Beard

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  • Jun 24, 2023
  • #1,314
For god sake people have some patience.

Hardly anyone has been sold by the relegated Prem teams yet.

Their squads will be decimated.

I am sure Robins said a few years ago (about the transfer window) that it’s like a premier league domino effect.

Once one team goes and buys someone it triggers the next move etc.

And there’s now so many folks involved in actually getting a player over the line-agents etc

I think folks on here think that signing a player is just like Football Manager where you just push a button and bam the player is yours.

Of course Robins and his team have got targets and I am sure we’ve spoken to most of them.

Like others have said-judge us at the end of July.


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Marty

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  • Jun 24, 2023
  • #1,315
Even Cov United are making signings! Absolute joke, time to go Dougie, time to go.
 
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djr8369

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  • Jun 24, 2023
  • #1,316
Fergusons_Beard said:
For god sake people have some patience.

Hardly anyone has been sold by the relegated Prem teams yet.

Their squads will be decimated.

I am sure Robins said a few years ago (about the transfer window) that it’s like a premier league domino effect.

Once one team goes and buys someone it triggers the next move etc.

And there’s now so many folks involved in actually getting a player over the line-agents etc

I think folks on here think that signing a player is just like Football Manager where you just push a button and bam the player is yours.

Of course Robins and his team have got targets and I am sure we’ve spoken to most of them.

Like others have said-judge us at the end of July.


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To be fair it’s a nightmare trying to get signings done in FM when playing as us.
 
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hamil99

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  • Jun 24, 2023
  • #1,317
People cry when we don't sign players early in the transfer window, and they cry that we haven't done are due diligence when we sign the Kastaneers of this world.

We have a brand new recruitment team, that's still currently being built, give them more than a week in the market to get their targets lined up. It's almost like people want us to take random punt early just to complain when it doesn't work out..
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Jun 24, 2023
  • #1,318
hamil99 said:
People cry when we don't sign players early in the transfer window, and they cry that we haven't done are due diligence when we sign the Kastaneers of this world.

We have a brand new recruitment team, that's still currently being built, give them more than a week in the market to get their targets lined up. It's almost like people want us to take random punt early just to complain when it doesn't work out..
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Did Badlan take the database or something?

we’d have had the targets lined up from January
 
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Skybluedownunder

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  • Jun 24, 2023
  • #1,319
DrPoolittle said:
Ray Ranson was all for signing players at the end of July in order to not pay for players wages in the close season.
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But for that small investment you miss on the best pickings, very narrow minded way of thinking especially when you are targeting free transfer players


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Skybluedownunder

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  • Jun 24, 2023
  • #1,320
Grendel said:
A company that employees under 50 people and has a turnover of £70 million - it’s not exactly Shell is it?
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I know it’s just funny ey.

When you hear oil tycoon you think oh yeah cashed up, but when you are dealing in cooking oil you are bottom of the barrel.

Is his cooking oil even in all the shops in England? Has anyone ever seen his brands before?


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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jun 24, 2023
  • #1,321
Deity said:
King has built his businesses on the intelligent use of data to support business decisions. I suspect that the recruitment team will have to use data to a much higher degree than previously to explain their recommendations.
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Really?
 

SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Jun 24, 2023
  • #1,322
Sky Blue Pete said:
Really?
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What are your early thoughts on Doug King, Pete? Will he be attending a fans forum soon?
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jun 24, 2023
  • #1,323
SlowerThanPlatt said:
What are your early thoughts on Doug King, Pete? Will he be attending a fans forum soon?
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He’s attended one already
 

higgs

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  • Jun 24, 2023
  • #1,324
When is our transfer embargo going to be lifted?

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coop

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  • Jun 24, 2023
  • #1,325
Burnley just bought another centre halve that's now 8 so surely we have a chance of signing Mcnally would be a great signing.
 
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long way home

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  • Jun 24, 2023
  • #1,326
This time of year its about being patient and trusting in Robbins and staff. We will have allsorts of names on boards or been in talks as well as agents calling us daily offering us players. I assume MR will be back at Ryton Monday with players doing testing by the end of the week. Calm before the storm, we will be busy, i have no doubt about that, lots of gaps to fill.
 
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CovLad94

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  • Jun 24, 2023
  • #1,327
coop said:
Burnley just bought another centre halve that's now 8 so surely we have a chance of signing Mcnally would be a great signing.
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Or CJ Egan-Riley who had signed terms and medical with us until he decided on Burnley last min
 

CovLis86

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  • Jun 24, 2023
  • #1,328
CovLad94 said:
Or CJ Egan-Riley who had signed terms and medical with us until he decided on Burnley last min
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I'd prefer the guy who knows the setup and coaching staff style etc. Hope Burnley don't play silly buggers and only let us have him in a Vik combo.
 

baldy

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  • Jun 24, 2023
  • #1,329
long way home said:
This time of year its about being patient and trusting in Robbins and staff. We will have allsorts of names on boards or been in talks as well as agents calling us daily offering us players. I assume MR will be back at Ryton Monday with players doing testing by the end of the week. Calm before the storm, we will be busy, i have no doubt about that, lots of gaps to fill.
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*Robins
 
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San Francisco

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  • Jun 25, 2023
  • #1,330
I'm still hoping we can nudge McNally to come and sign for us. I've heard that Burnley have signed several defenders so though he wants to challenge for a place in their first team I just can't see that happening. A move here would be much better for his career unless he only cares about the money.
 
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