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Ccfcisparks

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  • Jun 21, 2023
  • #1,156
Bid just under a million, but according to the TOC wants to stay at Wrexham.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jun 21, 2023
  • #1,157
SeaSeeEffCee said:
Hmm, seems like a big risk from us if true. They seem to think it’s in the region of £1m.
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Risk???
 

SeaSeeEffCee

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  • Jun 21, 2023
  • #1,158
Sky Blue Pete said:
Risk???
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A lot of money for an injury prone player who has never played above League One level and has spent the past 2 years in the National League. Not sure how it’s not a risk really.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jun 21, 2023
  • #1,159
SeaSeeEffCee said:
A lot of money for an injury prone player who has never played above League One level and has spent the past 2 years in the National League. Not sure how it’s not a risk really.
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Ok would you prefer frees
 

SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Jun 21, 2023
  • #1,160
Sky Blue Pete said:
Ok would you prefer frees
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Depends on the calibre of player obviously
 
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SeaSeeEffCee

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  • Jun 21, 2023
  • #1,161
Sky Blue Pete said:
Ok would you prefer frees
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How have you managed to interpret that from what I said?
 

Manchester_sky_blue

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  • Jun 21, 2023
  • #1,162
Deity said:
Rumours on Foxes forum that both Cov and Leicester are interested in Ciaran Clark, who has been released by Newcastle.

centre half.
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My Newcastle supporting mate has been saying for the last week that we are in for Clark. Didn't pay much attention to it but now hearing it from several other places as well.....
 

covcity4life

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  • Jun 21, 2023
  • #1,163
shmmeee said:
Cashflow forecasts are absolutely a thing in business.

It’s extremely unlikely Vik doesn’t go. We already have bids in. We can always sell below £20m if push comes to shove. But waiting means everyone knows how much you’ve got and raises their prices. It’s not risk free. Not to mention you might lose targets.

Doug should be able to front a couple of mil for a signing and be comfortable it’s coming back to him. Otherwise what’s the point of him?
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Doug should spend!

Doug shouldn't increase revenue!

It wasn't a sisu thing was it? You just want to criticise owners 247
 

shmmeee

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  • Jun 21, 2023
  • #1,164
covcity4life said:
Doug should spend!

Doug shouldn't increase revenue!

It wasn't a sisu thing was it? You just want to criticise owners 247
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Who said he shouldn’t increase revenue?

I want what I wanted under Sisu: a plan.

So far it seems to be “hope for a miracle while reducing losses”. Which was the Sisu plan.

The fact is King isn’t saying he’s doing it to cut losses, he’s saying he’s doing it so the squad can be competitive. In which case he needs to produce a competitive squad.
 
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jackdg

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  • Jun 21, 2023
  • #1,165
Manchester_sky_blue said:
My Newcastle supporting mate has been saying for the last week that we are in for Clark. Didn't pay much attention to it but now hearing it from several other places as well.....
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Has family pretty locally from his time with Villa. Wouldn’t be a huge surprise if we can give him the wages he’s after.

he’s not played masses of football in the last couple of years though
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Jun 21, 2023
  • #1,166
shmmeee said:
Who said he shouldn’t increase revenue?

I want what I wanted under Sisu: a plan.

So far it seems to be “hope for a miracle while reducing losses”. Which was the Sisu plan.

The fact is King isn’t saying he’s doing it to cut losses, he’s saying he’s doing it so the squad can be competitive. In which case he needs to produce a competitive squad.
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King is also riding the wave we’ve had since we got to the play offs, without having anything to do with it.

in reality, so far this summer is no different to last year - we had people saying we’re definitely getting relegated…
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jun 21, 2023
  • #1,167
HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
King is also riding the wave we’ve had since we got to the play offs, without having anything to do with it.

in reality, so far this summer is no different to last year - we had people saying we’re definitely getting relegated…
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I mean it’s all conjecture at the minute. Signings don’t usually start in anger until July. But the noises coming out the club aren’t exactly ambitious at the moment. End of the day if he hikes prices and we don’t go forwards on the pitch, people will be rightly upset.
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Jun 21, 2023
  • #1,168
shmmeee said:
I mean it’s all conjecture at the minute. Signings don’t usually start in anger until July. But the noises coming out the club aren’t exactly ambitious at the moment. End of the day if he hikes prices and we don’t go forwards on the pitch, people will be rightly upset.
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What noises would you consider ambitious?
 
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Deity

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  • Jun 21, 2023
  • #1,169
shmmeee said:
I mean it’s all conjecture at the minute. Signings don’t usually start in anger until July. But the noises coming out the club aren’t exactly ambitious at the moment. End of the day if he hikes prices and we don’t go forwards on the pitch, people will be rightly upset.
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The only step forwards from last year is promotion. I don’t believe that is most fans expectation.
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Jun 21, 2023
  • #1,170
Ccfcisparks said:
What noises would you consider ambitious?
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If noises are to be heard we’re not willing to pay one of the best midfielders in the league 20k a week, which top players would expect from a side looking to be a top 6 club

there’s also the hints that we will be more active in the loan market - despite Doug saying we need our own players not loans earlier on in the year.

we may just be doom mongering but I’m sceptical about doug starting from his motives buying us
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Jun 21, 2023
  • #1,171
HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
If noises are to be heard we’re not willing to pay one of the best midfielders in the league 20k a week, which top players would expect from a side looking to be a top 6 club

there’s also the hints that we will be more active in the loan market - despite Doug saying we need our own players not loans earlier on in the year.

we may just be doom mongering but I’m sceptical about doug starting from his motives buying us
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Where have you heard that about the loan market?
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Jun 21, 2023
  • #1,172
Ccfcisparks said:
Where have you heard that about the loan market?
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Comment he made recently. I’ll try and find it. Of course I may have misunderstood that - but I’m not convinced by Doug one bit - I’m hoping he’s tidying up the club for another sale
 

Balli001

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  • Jun 21, 2023
  • #1,173
HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
Comment he made recently. I’ll try and find it. Of course I may have misunderstood that - but I’m not convinced by Doug one bit - I’m hoping he’s tidying up the club for another sale
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His comments were on CWR whereby he said we obviously prefer permanent signings but we will need to use the loan market also
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jun 21, 2023
  • #1,174
Ccfcisparks said:
What noises would you consider ambitious?
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Something more than “top half, definitely not 19th”

That’s basically backwards.

I think most are willing to see last season as a bit of a one off but we should be building on it anyway. We’re about to sign an entire squad pretty much, if we’re still shopping in the same L1 market but without Gus and Vik then we’ll go backwards by two years. This has to be the summer we move to a proper Championship squad. Robins won’t be here forever, we either give him a bit more now or drop back to L1.
 

Marty

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  • Jun 21, 2023
  • #1,175
Deity said:
The only step forwards from last year is promotion. I don’t believe that is most fans expectation.
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I'm not expecting promotion, but King is bumping up prices across the board and giving it the 3 play offs in 5 seasons talk. He really needs to back the squad, nothing less then top 10 will do this season. Unless he's expecting Robins to work another miracle, he needs to dip his hands in his pockets.
 
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Balli001

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  • Jun 21, 2023
  • #1,176
shmmeee said:
Something more than “top half, definitely not 19th”

That’s basically backwards.
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Or 3 of the next 5 years in the play offs? Depends which parts you want to use really
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Jun 21, 2023
  • #1,177
Right I'm convinced. DOUG OUT.
 
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Deity

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  • Jun 21, 2023
  • #1,178
To the best of my knowledge King won’t decide who we buy, or what wage structure we have …. That’s for Austin and Robins. King will decide what playing budget they gave to operate with and what % of incoming transfer fees are reinvested in the squad.

Today we have been linked with a few low profile signings and already fans are blaming King for that.

Until we see the window close we won’t be able to judge whether the window has been a positive one or not but I fully expect to see a real mixture of signings:

a few loans
2-3 free transfers
2-3 lower league players with potential
3-4 proven championship players
1-2 foreign signings

IF that is the case we will feel underwhelmed at times, but until we see them play we won’t know.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jun 21, 2023
  • #1,179
Balli001 said:
Or 3 of the next 5 years in the play offs? Depends which parts you want to use really
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Well yeah when we made it last year. I’d bloody hope so. Has there been any indication that there will be any more resources to Robins than there has been?
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jun 21, 2023
  • #1,180
The obvious one being Yok will sell for £20m
 

Perryccfc

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  • Jun 21, 2023
  • #1,181
Christ the bloody bedwetting on here. Wait until the window closes. End of debate.
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Jun 21, 2023
  • #1,182
shmmeee said:
Well yeah when we made it last year. I’d bloody hope so. Has there been any indication that there will be any more resources to Robins than there has been?
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This - I’m fed up of Robins having to scramble around on scraps, I want him to be given the tools to progress us.
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Jun 21, 2023
  • #1,183
Perryccfc said:
Christ the bloody bedwetting on here. Wait until the window closes. End of debate.
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The season starts before the window closes?
 
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Balli001

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  • Jun 21, 2023
  • #1,184
shmmeee said:
Well yeah when we made it last year. I’d bloody hope so. Has there been any indication that there will be any more resources to Robins than there has been?
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He has said the budget would be higher. If the corporates stop pitchforking and buy boxes we will have an even bigger one too
 
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cooperskyblue

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  • Jun 21, 2023
  • #1,185
shmmeee said:
Well yeah when we made it last year. I’d bloody hope so. Has there been any indication that there will be any more resources to Robins than there has been?
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Yes there has. Robins said there would 100% be an uplift in budget. And he also said we finally have stability.

If Robins is positive then why shouldn't we be?

Rather than getting onto King's back now why don't we see how we shape up come August and then we can make fair informed judgements rather than negative presumptions.
 
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Perryccfc

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  • Jun 21, 2023
  • #1,186
Ccfcisparks said:
The season starts before the window closes?
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So?
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Jun 21, 2023
  • #1,187
Perryccfc said:
So?
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Lets play our first few games with a half full squad, good thinking.
 

shmmeee

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  • Jun 21, 2023
  • #1,188
cooperskyblue said:
Yes there has. Robins said there would 100% be an uplift in budget. And he also said we finally have stability.

If Robins is positive then why shouldn't we be?

Rather than getting onto King's back now why don't we see how we shape up come August and then we can make fair informed judgements rather than negative presumptions.
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The post that started this all off literally said it’s all conjecture. I’ve said repeatedly Sept 1st is when to judge him.

Doesn’t mean I can’t comment until then.
 
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RoboCCFC90

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  • Jun 21, 2023
  • #1,189
Ccfcisparks said:
Lets play our first few games with a half full squad, good thinking.
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Its unlikely that all signings will be made by the first league match, there is plenty of time to bring in signings, the league won't be completed in the first four games.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Jun 21, 2023
  • #1,190
6 weeks to sign around 10 players
 
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