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shmmeee

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This is the kind of transfer window we need (in numbers, not quality)

Coventry City - Transfers 18/19

Transfers: Overview of all signed and sold players of club Coventry for the current season.
www.transfermarkt.co.uk
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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Deleted member 5849 said:
By the time you've got to 11, it's not really much of a leap to 13!
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True, but there's little chance of Robins having the scope to sign that many players in one window. 11 is already an extremely tall order IMO with the resource and budget available.
 
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long way home

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Luke Bolton would be worth a look as a right sided player. Very quick and probably now needs to step up leagues. Ex Man city that did really well on tour of US few years back.
 
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Northeast sky blue

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KenilworthSkyBlue said:
True, but there's little chance of Robins having the scope to sign that many players in one window. 11 is already an extremely tall order IMO with the resource and budget available.
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We've already lost something like 6 or 7 in loans going back plus out of contract first teamers and that's without Vik and Gus or anyone else going, we need at least replacements for all of those
 

slowpoke

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Northeast sky blue said:
We've already lost something like 6 or 7 in loans going back plus out of contract first teamers and that's without Vik and Gus or anyone else going, we need at least replacements for all of those
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They all need replacing and with better players some will be loans i expect but it leaves six or seven permanents.
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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Northeast sky blue said:
We've already lost something like 6 or 7 in loans going back plus out of contract first teamers and that's without Vik and Gus or anyone else going, we need at least replacements for all of those
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Not saying really we don't. I'm saying the more signings we look to make the chances of it going wrong increases which is why I've long been concerned about this window.

With more signings needed to be brought in the likelihood that they're not the club's primary targets increases, meaning the uncertainty around the signing subsequently increases as often consolidations have to be made. As it's pretty common for clubs of our stature not to get their first, second or even third choice targets in any given transfer window.

Which is generally as a rule of thumb why I think signing a huge number of players in one given window rarely comes off as there's only a finite amount of time a resource for managers and backroom teams to spend on bringing players in, meaning the risk/reward ratio gets ever more lopsided as more players are brought in.
 
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RoboCCFC90

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KenilworthSkyBlue said:
That would leave us incredibly thin. 12 players out + Gyokeres for 6-7 to come in would be nothing short of alarming.
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Only 10 players have been released up until now. If it stays at that 10 + Gyok, I am comfortable with the numbers needed in my previous post. I would add that they would have to be first team quality players, not fringe players.
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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RoboCCFC90 said:
Only 10 players have been released up until now. If it stays at that 10 + Gyok, I am comfortable with the numbers needed in my previous post. I would add that they would have to be first team quality players, not fringe players.
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I think it's actually 12 if you include the loans returning to their parent clubs. Then when Gyokeres is sold that'll be 13.

Granted not all of those exiting the club will need to be replaced but we need 6-7 in the defence alone in order to fill gaps.
 
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RoboCCFC90

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KenilworthSkyBlue said:
I think it's actually 12 if you include the loans returning to their parent clubs. Then when Gyokeres is sold that'll be 13.

Granted not all of those exiting the club will need to be replaced but we need 6-7 in the defence alone in order to fill gaps.
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2 players going back to their parent clubs aren't released from us so it's 10 + 2 players we never owned.

We need quality over quantity. Lets take Walker and Waghorn as an example, I'd take one striker with a better quality than two combined.

If / When Gyok is sold then we can look at quantity, but firstly we need quality.
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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RoboCCFC90 said:
2 players going back to their parent clubs aren't released from us so it's 10 + 2 players we never owned.

We need quality over quantity. Lets take Walker and Waghorn as an example, I'd take one striker with a better quality than two combined.

If / When Gyok is sold then we can look at quantity, but firstly we need quality.
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It's not a case of quality over quantity. There are gaps to be filled which desperately need filling.

Not sure how you aren't grasping this.

Your notion that Robins will bring in 3 CBs for instance is insane. That would leave one as cover in the event of an injury.
 

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We need to keep a real limit on these players purchased for the under 23’s this year far to many of the ones we are signing just end up getting released a couple of years later or like Cashman we end up getting stuck with them. People will say their wages are low but they al add up
 
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RoboCCFC90

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KenilworthSkyBlue said:
It's not a case of quality over quantity. There are gaps to be filled which desperately need filling.

Not sure how you aren't grasping this.

Your notion that Robins will bring in 3 CBs for instance is insane. That would leave one as cover in the event of an injury.
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So what you are saying is to fill the gaps, you'd take 10 players that had the same qualities as players we have released because there are gaps to be filled.

Over my suggestion of taking 5/6 players who you pay a little more for and are actually an improvement on what we had previously, i.e quality over quantity.

Maybe it's who you isn't really grasping what I am saying, probably best that if you don't understand then not to reply as I am not sure I can dumb it down for you anymore.
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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RoboCCFC90 said:
So what you are saying is to fill the gaps, you'd take 10 players that had the same qualities as players we have released because there are gaps to be filled.

Over my suggestion of taking 5/6 players who you pay a little more for and are actually an improvement on what we had previously, i.e quality over quantity.

Maybe it's who you isn't really grasping what I am saying, probably best that if you don't understand then not to reply as I am not sure I can dumb it down for you anymore.
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You're clearly an idiot.
 
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Terry Gibson's perm said:
We need to keep a real limit on these players purchased for the under 23’s this year far to many of the ones we are signing just end up getting released a couple of years later or like Cashman we end up getting stuck with them. People will say their wages are low but they al add up
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Surely players like that cost relatively little, some might work and they enable us to have a competitive u23 team. What we really need to avoid are the expensive mistakes like Waghorn, Hilssner and Dacosta.
 
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AFCCOVENTRY

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Interesting to see Millwall have bid £2m got Lyndon Dykes. Not saying we go for him. QPR having a fire sale at the mo.
 

Ccfcisparks

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AFCCOVENTRY said:
Interesting to see Millwall have bid £2m got Lyndon Dykes. Not saying we go for him. QPR having a fire sale at the mo.
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Not a fan of that transfer at all, think he is very overrated. QPR do have some decent players there though we could look at.
 
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Deleted member 9744 said:
Surely players like that cost relatively little, some might work and they enable us to have a competitive u23 team. What we really need to avoid are the expensive mistakes like Waghorn, Hilssner and Dacosta.
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But you get six of them that fail for that you can get a player for the first team, being realistic Robins rarely uses them anyway they are like a separate team and players coming back from injury don’t seem to bother playing at that level anymore, not like years ago when reserve team were excellent.
 

SBAndy

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KenilworthSkyBlue said:
Not saying really we don't. I'm saying the more signings we look to make the chances of it going wrong increases which is why I've long been concerned about this window.

With more signings needed to be brought in the likelihood that they're not the club's primary targets increases, meaning the uncertainty around the signing subsequently increases as often consolidations have to be made. As it's pretty common for clubs of our stature not to get their first, second or even third choice targets in any given transfer window.

Which is generally as a rule of thumb why I think signing a huge number of players in one given window rarely comes off as there's only a finite amount of time a resource for managers and backroom teams to spend on bringing players in, meaning the risk/reward ratio gets ever more lopsided as more players are brought in.
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Last time we signed 13 players in a window we won the league.
 
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PVA

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Terry Gibson's perm said:
We need to keep a real limit on these players purchased for the under 23’s this year far to many of the ones we are signing just end up getting released a couple of years later or like Cashman we end up getting stuck with them. People will say their wages are low but they al add up
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They cost relative peanuts in the scheme of things and we need them to field a u21 team

I don't think many of them are expected to make it, any that do are a bonus
 
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Legia Sky Blue

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How well we play the loan market next season is likely to be a defining factor in our season. Last season on average only 3 of our 5 loans were in the starting XI, so there is scope for getting more value from that route next season.
 

Dickie

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I wonder if Robins is reading this thread, he won’t know if he’s coming or going
 

Finham

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Skybluedownunder said:
Two Interesting left field suggestions on this list

3 Viktor Gyokeres replacements Coventry City must keep in mind as Sporting links hot up News: The72 - Football League News

Coventry City star Viktor Gyokeres has been at the centre of transfer speculation for some time now and the rumours are heating up again.
the72.co.uk


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Love the sound of Zan Vipotnik, tbf.
 
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Finham

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KenilworthSkyBlue said:
Not saying really we don't. I'm saying the more signings we look to make the chances of it going wrong increases which is why I've long been concerned about this window.

With more signings needed to be brought in the likelihood that they're not the club's primary targets increases, meaning the uncertainty around the signing subsequently increases as often consolidations have to be made. As it's pretty common for clubs of our stature not to get their first, second or even third choice targets in any given transfer window.

Which is generally as a rule of thumb why I think signing a huge number of players in one given window rarely comes off as there's only a finite amount of time a resource for managers and backroom teams to spend on bringing players in, meaning the risk/reward ratio gets ever more lopsided as more players are brought in.
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This is why I am pissed off at the idea of a (more than adequate) Bidwell going: we have lots to do anyway, why add LB to the list?
 
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Finham

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AFCCOVENTRY said:
Interesting to see Millwall have bid £2m got Lyndon Dykes. Not saying we go for him. QPR having a fire sale at the mo.
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slowpoke

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Sounds like we are signing the lad from Bristol City and apparently interested in two from Stevenage so that would be three in coming and no transfer fees, I think that’s how it will go this transfer window, should Gyorkeres and/or Hamer go the baulk of any fees will have to go on replacements.
Certain MR has his wish for list but obviously waiting on any departures, we need better players if we are to challenge and have chance of doing better than last season.
 

Ccfcisparks

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slowpoke said:
Sounds like we are signing the lad from Bristol City and apparently interested in two from Stevenage so that would be three in coming and no transfer fees, I think that’s how it will go this transfer window, should Gyorkeres and/or Hamer go the baulk of any fees will have to go on replacements.
Certain MR has his wish for list but obviously waiting on any departures, we need better players if we are to challenge and have chance of doing better than last season.
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We signed the lad from Bristol last week. Not really breaking news lol
 
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oldfiver

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Sheffield United release Billy Sharp after promotion to Premier League | LiveScore
 

higgs

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Billy Sharp worth a shot for a year

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mark82

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higgs said:
Billy Sharp worth a shot for a year

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Don't think he's at the level anymore to be honest.
 
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covmark

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AFCCOVENTRY said:
I see Dawkins is spreading rumours that Robins will get hardly any money from any player sales.
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Hopefully bollocks, but if its true we may as well have Sisu in charge still. Mr King is pushing the dawning of a new era. He needs to put his money where his mouth is.
 
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Sharp's sub Waghorn nowadays
 

no_loyalty

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oldfiver said:
Sheffield United release Billy Sharp after promotion to Premier League | LiveScore
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Jack O’Connell might be a good shout, plenty of Championship experience.
 
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Jack O’Connell might be a good shout, plenty of Championship experience.
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Two league games in two seasons
 

no_loyalty

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Two league games in two seasons
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Massive injury, right up our street.
 

slowpoke

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covmark said:
Hopefully bollocks, but if its true we may as well have Sisu in charge still. Mr King is pushing the dawning of a new era. He needs to put his money where his mouth is.
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With respect you are talking bollox, he needs to make sure our club is run properly from top to bottom, he’s started by putting the most important MR & AV on proper extended contracts, I’m sure he will back them.
I think the season ticket sales will back him up too, we have sold 9000 already.
 
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