Transfer targets (10 Viewers)

shmmeee · Nov 28, 2023

Collins - Wilson
MvE - Latibeaudiere
Thomas - Fadz
Kitching - Binks
Bidwell - JD
Sheaf - Kelly
Eccles - Ayari
Allen - O’Hare (?)
Saka - Simms
Godden - ??
Wright - ??

Taking what Saddlebrains said seems about right. Move Simms to ST, cover at RW/LW, Ayari off for Gus 2.0.

Hincha · Nov 28, 2023

2 wingers makes sense.

We have effectively no cover for Wright/Saka there at the moment. Not sure how we'll get to Jan with only 4 players for the 3 forward positions & loads of games.

Sky Blue Pete · Nov 28, 2023

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ProfessorbyGrace · Nov 28, 2023

Sky Blue Pete said:
Objkwu

Bless you.

shmmeee · Nov 28, 2023

Hincha said:
2 wingers makes sense.

We have effectively no cover for Wright/Saka there at the moment. Not sure how we'll get to Jan with only 4 players for the 3 forward positions & loads of games.

O’Hare will play wide right I reckon. Wouldn’t be surprised to see Dasilva or MvE deputise at times either.

Marty · Nov 28, 2023

shmmeee said:
O’Hare will play wide right I reckon. Wouldn’t be surprised to see Dasilva or MvE deputise at times either.

I've heard O'Hare will be gone in January. Initially on loan but will be signed permanently once his contract runs down.

shmmeee · Nov 28, 2023

Marty said:
I've heard O'Hare will be gone in January. Initially on loan but will be signed permanently once his contract runs down.

I reckon in his head he’s been gone since he got injured. Surprised someone is willing to take him without him proving he’s back to the same player though.

Marty · Nov 28, 2023

shmmeee said:
I reckon in his head he’s been gone since he got injured. Surprised someone is willing to take him without him proving he’s back to the same player though.

I think that's the idea behind the loan, try before you buy essentially.

Ccfcisparks · Nov 28, 2023

Marty said:
I think that's the idea behind the loan, try before you buy essentially.

He’s out of contract in the summer, why would we loan him out to let him go on a free?

Deleted member 5849 · Nov 28, 2023

Ccfcisparks said:
He’s out of contract in the summer, why would we loan him out to let him go on a free?

Free up wages to get his replacement in?

Matt smith · Nov 28, 2023

Marty said:
I've heard O'Hare will be gone in January. Initially on loan but will be signed permanently once his contract runs down.

Our league?

Sky Blue Harry H · Nov 28, 2023

Matt smith said:
Our league?

If it's Burnley then they will be next season..... weren't some of his family Bluenoses? How about them with ££££s burning in their owners pockets?
I love C O'H, but if he won't sign a new contract, at least we've got used to not having him play. Somehow it won't feel like the end of the world. Would be more than happy if he does renew though.

Matt smith · Nov 28, 2023

Sky Blue Harry H said:
If it's Burnley then they will be next season..... weren't some of his family Bluenoses? How about them with ££££s burning in their owners pockets?
I love C O'H, but if he won't sign a new contract, at least we've got used to not having him play. Somehow it won't feel like the end of the world. Would be more than happy if he does renew though.

I can’t believe in my head how I’m just not that bothered if he goes, which is quite something as I do love what he’s done for us

he doesn’t really fit in this 4/3/3 anyway as I think we’ll play 2 6’s and a 8 as opposed to a 10

8 being the January addition

Legia Sky Blue · Nov 28, 2023

The only way we should loan O'Hare out in January is if we receive a loan fee, and believe there is 100% no chance of him signing a new contract. If the club believe there is any chance of him signing a new contract then they'd be stupid to give up on that option.

shmmeee · Nov 28, 2023

Ccfcisparks said:
He’s out of contract in the summer, why would we loan him out to let him go on a free?

Loan fee?

shmmeee · Nov 28, 2023

Lets face it. We won’t miss him. Maybe 18 months ago.

Fergusons_Beard · Nov 28, 2023

What’s the bloody obsession with signing wingers?

We aren’t playing 442. We’re playing a hybrid 433 come 451. Actually more of a 4-2-3-1 with two holding midfielders.

No wingers at all (in the traditional sense)-Despite Saka playing in the front 3 role.

Two of the front three and playing more of a hybrid midfield role.

Allen is definitely playing an 8 rather than a 10.

We do need midfielders but box to box variation not creative winger types (unless change of formation) which we have 3 already in Ayari, Palmer & O’Hare.

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Legia Sky Blue · Nov 28, 2023

shmmeee said:
Loan fee?

Yes. Plenty of examples. Chelsea received about £8m every season they loaned Lukaku out to play in Italy. Given O'Hare's pre injury value to us, I would not expect us to effectively give him away in January, unless a loan fee was part of the equation, albeit I have no idea what that fee might be. Even then I think we would be stupid to loan him out rather than play him while he's still our player.

Deity · Nov 28, 2023

Fergusons_Beard said:
What’s the bloody obsession with signing wingers?

We aren’t playing 442. We’re playing a hybrid 433 come 451. Actually more of a 4-2-3-1 with two holding midfielders.

No wingers at all (in the traditional sense)-Despite Saka playing in the front 3 role.

Two of the front three and playing more of a hybrid midfield role.

Allen is definitely playing an 8 rather than a 10.

We do need midfielders but box to box variation not creative winger types (unless change of formation) which we have 3 already in Ayari, Palmer & O’Hare.

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We have to plan for life without Ohare so he is a red herring. Ayari isn’t yet good enough so that rules him out too. Which leaves just Palmer as a central creative player and his injury track record shows he can’t be relied upon.

At the moment Tats is the only player who genuinely creates problems from midfield.

He’s we need 2 more 8’s, given if you sign one and they get injured you have not got sufficient cover/

I like the idea of having pacy wingers who can give us options in matches where we are struggling to break teams down ….

wingy · Nov 28, 2023

Ccfcisparks said:
He’s out of contract in the summer, why would we loan him out to let him go on a free?

Maybe got Thomas at a discount?

Briles · Nov 28, 2023

A few whispers about styles again. Don't know how accurate

CCFCSteve · Nov 28, 2023

Legia Sky Blue said:
Yes. Plenty of examples. Chelsea received about £8m every season they loaned Lukaku out to play in Italy. Given O'Hare's pre injury value to us, I would not expect us to effectively give him away in January, unless a loan fee was part of the equation, albeit I have no idea what that fee might be. Even then I think we would be stupid to loan him out rather than play him while he's still our player.

As he’s out of contract in the summer maybe it’s more likely we just sell him even if he only goes somewhere on a short term deal.

I was still holding out hope he gets back to his best and signs a new deal but if he wants to go then we move on. I’d hope we get at least a little something for him if he left in Jan though

Legia Sky Blue · Nov 28, 2023

CCFCSteve said:
As he’s out of contract in the summer maybe it’s more likely we just sell him even if he only goes somewhere on a short term deal.

I was still holding out hope he gets back to his best and signs a new deal but if he wants to go then we move on. I’d hope we get at least a little something for him if he left in Jan though

Yes, that is a possibility, but equally I think he can sign a pre-contract with another club in January to leave on a free in the Summer, and just play out the season with us. Either way it will be such a pity to lose a player that's been so influential in our success these last few years, in such circumstances.

SBAndy · Nov 28, 2023

Deleted member 9744 said:
Which out of Sheaf and Eccles would you drop? And who plays no 10?

We look to be playing more of a flat 3 with a focus of leaving Wright a bit higher up the pitch. So both can play and get a left sided CM in. I did suggest Carel Eiting in the summer (albeit as a Hamer replacement, but turns out he’s left footed). Moved to FC Twente in the summer but barely played.

I just don’t really see Eccles as a holding midfielder as others do. He’s tended to push quite high up on the right in games, and that didn’t work with the other formation but I think it would now.

Calista · Nov 28, 2023

baldy said:
It’s taken me about half an hour to realise LK & KM etc aren’t actually playing positions ffs

He was using ‘soccer’ terms now commonly heard in the USA

LK = Left kicker
BT = Back tackler
KM = Korner minder
LB = Line breaker
JB = Jump baller

Deleted member 9744 · Nov 28, 2023

SBAndy said:
We look to be playing more of a flat 3 with a focus of leaving Wright a bit higher up the pitch. So both can play and get a left sided CM in. I did suggest Carel Eiting in the summer (albeit as a Hamer replacement, but turns out he’s left footed). Moved to FC Twente in the summer but barely played.

I just don’t really see Eccles as a holding midfielder as others do. He’s tended to push quite high up on the right in games, and that didn’t work with the other formation but I think it would now.

Fair points.

Saddlebrains · Nov 28, 2023

Not heard anything on this O'Hare loan

Have been told though that if he hasn't signed 9n the dotted line come first week of Jan, Doug will be saying he can go for anything around the 2 million mark.

Suppose thats better than fuck all we will get in Jan

Latest i have is hes not going to sign. Hes seen how much money his mate Gustavo gets for eating kebabs and getting pissed while playing for a bag of shit club and he wants a piece

wingy · Nov 28, 2023

It's the Kompany factor.

Brighton Sky Blue · Nov 28, 2023

Saddlebrains said:
Not heard anything on this O'Hare loan

Have been told though that if he hasn't signed 9n the dotted line come first week of Jan, Doug will be saying he can go for anything around the 2 million mark.

Suppose thats better than fuck all we will get in Jan

Latest i have is hes not going to sign. Hes seen how much money his mate Gustavo gets for eating kebabs and getting pissed while playing for a bag of shit club and he wants a piece

It really shows in his performances so far to be honest.

Matt smith · Nov 28, 2023

Saddlebrains said:
Not heard anything on this O'Hare loan

Have been told though that if he hasn't signed 9n the dotted line come first week of Jan, Doug will be saying he can go for anything around the 2 million mark.

Suppose thats better than fuck all we will get in Jan

Latest i have is hes not going to sign. Hes seen how much money his mate Gustavo gets for eating kebabs and getting pissed while playing for a bag of shit club and he wants a piece

Let him go then not a big deal in my opinion

get a top quality midfielder and a couple of forwards additions and play a flat 3

Matt smith · Nov 28, 2023

Saddlebrains said:
Not heard anything on this O'Hare loan

Have been told though that if he hasn't signed 9n the dotted line come first week of Jan, Doug will be saying he can go for anything around the 2 million mark.

Suppose thats better than fuck all we will get in Jan

Latest i have is hes not going to sign. Hes seen how much money his mate Gustavo gets for eating kebabs and getting pissed while playing for a bag of shit club and he wants a piece

Has Palmer got another year after this?

If we stick with a 4-3-3 think he may move on too

Sick Boy · Nov 28, 2023

Marty said:
I've heard O'Hare will be gone in January. Initially on loan but will be signed permanently once his contract runs down.

Yeah it’s hard to imagine he has a future with us at this point. I expect he’ll go on loan to another club in this division.

CCFCSteve · Nov 28, 2023

Saddlebrains said:
Not heard anything on this O'Hare loan

Have been told though that if he hasn't signed 9n the dotted line come first week of Jan, Doug will be saying he can go for anything around the 2 million mark.

Suppose thats better than fuck all we will get in Jan

Latest i have is hes not going to sign. Hes seen how much money his mate Gustavo gets for eating kebabs and getting pissed while playing for a bag of shit club and he wants a piece

Cant blame him really if that’s the case, he could easily have had his top level career ended and still doesnt know if he will return to his best. Not surprised if he wants to take the cash, although it’s frustrating after paying him good money for a year out injured. That’s just football though…assuming it happens of course and who knows for sure, he might not get the offers he’s hoping for so decides to stay put for a bit

Sick Boy · Nov 28, 2023

Matt smith said:
Has Palmer got another year after this?

If we stick with a 4-3-3 think he may move on too

Yeah think so, he’ll inevitably leave on a free, probably to League One.

wingy · Nov 28, 2023

Just call it a player swap, Thomas free in other words.

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