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  • Thread starter We'll_live_and_die
  • Start date May 15, 2023
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Hobo

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  • Aug 31, 2023
  • #5,986
We will probably signed someone tomorrow and this place will be full of posts about how shit he is
 
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SkyBlueGuy

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 31, 2023
  • #5,987
The watchmaker said:
~£17m is oft cited and is the figure used by eg. transfermarkt. I cannot vouch for reliability. Gustavo Hamer - Transfer history
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I think that's showing in Euros
 
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Hutch11

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  • Aug 31, 2023
  • #5,988
Matt smith said:
No I just want us to replace our best player with the 17 million we’ve accrued

sheaf Kelly and Eccles isn’t enough
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We've lost 1 game so far and arguably should've won that ( or at least not lost )
We are a fuckin good side and are only going to get better
 
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Northants Sky Blue

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  • Aug 31, 2023
  • #5,989
Hope something happens tomorrow, a quality CM loan at least.

As much as I like Lati a free transfer CB playing as a makeshift no 8 isnt lighting my candle
 
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skybluecam

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  • Aug 31, 2023
  • #5,990
BlueSkiesForever said:
Yeah of course I realise that, and I realise we’ve come a hell of a long way, I will always support Robins and the team but I just want us to be competing at the top of the league. We’re so close to having a proper full squad it’ll just be a real shame if we can’t get in a proper quality CM. I wouldn’t be complaining if we hadn’t sold Vik & Gus but when you look at the squad atm and the last couple performances I can’t help but feel we’re lacking. I just want us to be a real force this season that’s all.
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I feel the same, the squad needs more additions.

But spending for spending’s sake won’t help us. We have to be smart, identifying someone who can replace Hamer for 1/3 of the price isn’t easy is it? If they don’t feel they’ve found that then I’d rather they keep looking and move in Jan or next summer than just go and get whoever in.

Spaffing £30m on flops, bloating the wage budget and then missing promotion is a recipe for collapse.
 
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Deity

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  • Aug 31, 2023
  • #5,991
Saddlebrains said:
We have. The stipulation of both going was the money was recieved in full bar add ons (in installments of course)

None of this like we did for Simms, it was £35 million for both Vik and Gus

We've spent £20million. Absolutely no excuse for me if he doesnt spend a few million on a CM
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I think this is an odd take.

It is perfectly possible we have tried repeatedly to spend good money on a midfielder but have been blown away on wages, or by a higher rated team. That is football. I can excuse that.

don’t get me wrong I’ll be frustrated and disappointed but I understand that it’s a credible outcome ….
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Aug 31, 2023
  • #5,992
skybluecam said:
I feel the same, the squad needs more additions.

But spending for spending’s sake won’t help us. We have to be smart, identifying someone who can replace Hamer for 1/3 of the price isn’t easy is it? If they don’t feel they’ve found that then I’d rather they keep looking and move in Jan or next summer than just go and get whoever in.

Spaffing £30m on flops, bloating the wage budget and then missing promotion is a recipe for collapse.
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Alternatively you spend on someone who can develop up to his level in a few years. It just looks like we assumed he wouldn’t go this summer or at least didn’t plan on it.
 
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duffer

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  • Aug 31, 2023
  • #5,993
Hobo said:
We will probably signed someone tomorrow and this place will be full of posts about how shit he is
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My <insert team name here> supporting mate, says that <insert new signing name here> is so useless that he offered to drive him here himself.
 
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Finham

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  • Aug 31, 2023
  • #5,994
Saddlebrains said:
We have. The stipulation of both going was the money was recieved in full bar add ons (in installments of course)

None of this like we did for Simms, it was £35 million for both Vik and Gus

We've spent £20million. Absolutely no excuse for me if he doesnt spend a few million on a CM
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So we got £15m up front for Gus did we? No clauses/add-ons? Others are saying differently!
 

cooperskyblue

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  • Aug 31, 2023
  • #5,995
To be honest if we get a CM in on a permanent tomorrow I think the squad would look pretty good. We could go back in for Kitching or whoever CB wise in January.

Dasilva showed we will wait to get the ones we want. CM is priority.

But atleast it's a deadline day for us to be invested in.
 
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Finham

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  • Aug 31, 2023
  • #5,996
The watchmaker said:
~£17m is oft cited and is the figure used by eg. transfermarkt. I cannot vouch for reliability. Gustavo Hamer - Transfer history
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Yeah they're notoriously unreliable.
 
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Sky Blue Harry H

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  • Aug 31, 2023
  • #5,997
Hutch11 said:
The long term plan looks great , we've signed a number of young players on 4 Yr deals with an aim of reaching the promised land
The trouble is that some of our fans have unrealistic expectations and want it now
That's not how it works
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Even though you've expressed your delight at the thought of giving me a pasting, one of the most sensible posts I've seen on here in the last 48 hours or so. See you soon mate.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Aug 31, 2023
  • #5,998
Saddlebrains said:
The stipulation of both going was the money was recieved in full bar add ons
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So the stipulation was a fee plus add ons was the total fee?
 
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SleepyGinger

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  • Aug 31, 2023
  • #5,999
The big money signings this window have gone to peoples heads We’ve spent 20 million quid and people are moaning about a lack of backing. The Vik and Hamer money should set us up for years it doesn’t have to go this window. We’re clearly still trying to bring people in, the same people moaning for a big signing to replace Hamer will be the first ones to call him Shit after 3 games.
 
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BlueSkiesForever

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  • Aug 31, 2023
  • #6,000
Deity said:
I think this is an odd take.

It is perfectly possible we have tried repeatedly to spend good money on a midfielder but have been blown away on wages, or by a higher rated team. That is football. I can excuse that.

don’t get me wrong I’ll be frustrated and disappointed but I understand that it’s a credible outcome ….
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Yeah I suppose I was being a bit hasty but I still find it baffling that out of all the players from all the leagues in Europe we haven’t managed to sign one defensive CM, doesn’t have to be exactly like Hamer, just someone with a decent level of quality that maybe we can train up or add depth to our squad. There must be 100’s of CM options out there around the £4-£8 million bracket, surely?
 

TomRad85

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  • Aug 31, 2023
  • #6,001
We've literally bid 4 million for Kitching today it seems. I don't think we're just sitting on the money. Expect to see CB and CM come in tomorrow.

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skybluecam

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  • Aug 31, 2023
  • #6,002
Saddlebrains said:
We have. The stipulation of both going was the money was recieved in full bar add ons (in installments of course)

None of this like we did for Simms, it was £35 million for both Vik and Gus

We've spent £20million. Absolutely no excuse for me if he doesnt spend a few million on a CM
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I don't believe for a second that we got £35m up front for Vik and Gus. Not in today's world of FFP and accounting trickery.
 
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SleepyGinger

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  • Aug 31, 2023
  • #6,003
BlueSkiesForever said:
Yeah I suppose I was being a bit hasty but I still find it baffling that out of all the players from all the leagues in Europe we haven’t managed to sign one defensive CM, doesn’t have to be exactly like Hamer, just someone with a decent level of quality that maybe we can train up or add depth to our squad. There must be 100’s of CM options out there around the £4-£8 million bracket, surely?
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Someone like Ben Sheaf?
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Aug 31, 2023
  • #6,004
skybluecam said:
I don't believe for a second that we got £35m up front for Vik and Gus. Not in today's world of FFP and accounting trickery.
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The Gyokeres deal is out in the open.
 

skybluecam

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  • Aug 31, 2023
  • #6,005
Deleted member 5849 said:
The Gyokeres deal is out in the open.
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Where exactly?
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Aug 31, 2023
  • #6,006
skybluecam said:
Where exactly?
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Scout through this site and you'll find the relevant links to where it is. I'd suggest starting on the monster Gyokeres thread.
 

BlueSkiesForever

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  • Aug 31, 2023
  • #6,007
skybluecam said:
I don't believe for a second that we got £35m up front for Vik and Gus. Not in today's world of FFP and accounting trickery.
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Probably not exactly £35m but you’d think it’d be around that mark, and remember that when all the books are balanced etc Doug hasn’t had to spend anything yet. I think a lot of people see it as moaning for moaning’s sake but we really do need a quality CM to keep us going for the rest of the season, they’ll be injuries and suspensions no doubt and it’s not like having a quality CM is a luxury move just for the sake of signing a player, it’s a real crucial position.
 

Finham

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  • Aug 31, 2023
  • #6,008
skybluecam said:
I don't believe for a second that we got £35m up front for Vik and Gus. Not in today's world of FFP and accounting trickery.
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Would be too good to be true, us getting it all up front for any sales but oh, everyone we sign is just a few million with the rest when we win the Prem...
 

BlueSkiesForever

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  • Aug 31, 2023
  • #6,009
SleepyGinger said:
Someone like Ben Sheaf?
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Someone to work alongside Ben Sheaf, got no problem with Sheaf but I think we need someone of similar ability to work alongside him, then Eccles can step in whenever needed, rather than relying on him week in week out.
 

skybluecam

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  • Aug 31, 2023
  • #6,010
Deleted member 5849 said:
Scout through this site and you'll find the relevant links to where it is. I'd suggest starting on the monster Gyokeres thread.
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I'm not scouring a thread for it. I know for a fact it wasn't £20m, because it was 20m EUR. And that won't have been all one payment.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Aug 31, 2023
  • #6,011
skybluecam said:
I'm not scouring a thread for it.
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Well you'll have to take my word for that it's out there it as I'm not looking for it again for your benefit.
 
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PVA

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  • Aug 31, 2023
  • #6,012
TomRad85 said:
We've literally bid 4 million for Kitching today it seems. I don't think we're just sitting on the money. Expect to see CB and CM come in tomorrow.

Sent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk
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Yeah and also just because we have money doesn't mean we that we should overpay for the players we want.
 

mark82

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  • Aug 31, 2023
  • #6,013
skybluecam said:
I'm not scouring a thread for it. I know for a fact it wasn't £20m, because it was 20m EUR. And that won't have been all one payment.
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Yeah, works out about £17m. It'll be in installments but we'll be spending in installments too.

Portuguese transfers have to be reported (think it's a regulatory thing). Terms are out there and were put on here with a translation.
 

Hobo

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  • Aug 31, 2023
  • #6,014
BlueSkiesForever said:
Yeah I suppose I was being a bit hasty but I still find it baffling that out of all the players from all the leagues in Europe we haven’t managed to sign one defensive CM, doesn’t have to be exactly like Hamer, just someone with a decent level of quality that maybe we can train up or add depth to our squad. There must be 100’s of CM options out there around the £4-£8 million bracket, surely?
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Out of all the players, all the leagues, all the free agents.... there is more shit available than quality. Signing someone is not the problem, it is sourcing the right character, with the right quality, in the right position, at the right price, from a team willing to sell and the player wants to join us.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Aug 31, 2023
  • #6,015
skybluecam said:
I'm not scouring a thread for it. I know for a fact it wasn't £20m, because it was 20m EUR. And that won't have been all one payment.
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It was base fee €20m rising to €24m. 15% sell on going down to 10% if he gets the incentives.
 
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TomRad85

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  • Aug 31, 2023
  • #6,016
PVA said:
Yeah and also just because we have money doesn't mean we that we should overpay for the players we want.
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You know if we up our bid for Kitching then there will be so many negative comments. Can't win either way sometimes.

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Calista

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  • Aug 31, 2023
  • #6,017
BlueSkiesForever said:
I still find it baffling that out of all the players from all the leagues in Europe we haven’t managed to sign one defensive CM, doesn’t have to be exactly like Hamer, just someone with a decent level of quality that maybe we can train up or add depth to our squad.
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You're desperate to replace Hamer with a defensive midfielder?
 
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Finham

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  • Aug 31, 2023
  • #6,018
Brighton Sky Blue said:
It was base fee €20m rising to €24m. 15% sell on going down to 10% if he gets the incentives.
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Yet it is constantly rounded up to £20m (NOT EUROS) when it comes to what we have to spend!
 

BlueSkiesForever

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  • Aug 31, 2023
  • #6,019
Hobo said:
Out of all the players, all the leagues, all the free agents.... there is more shit available than quality. Signing someone is not the problem, it is sourcing the right character, with the right quality, in the right position, at the right price, from a team willing to sell and the player wants to join us.
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Yeah fair I just expected out of all the 100’s of CMs in all the leagues around the world we’d have signed one of them that’s all. I’d have loved it if there was a perfect Hamer replacement but if there genuinely isn’t one out there then it doesn’t have to be Hamer quality right this minute but someone with potential that we can train up and just add depth to our squad when we get tired or injured, even someone at £2-£3 mil would help us out, always good to have options that’s all.
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

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  • Aug 31, 2023
  • #6,020
Hobo said:
Out of all the players, all the leagues, all the free agents.... there is more shit available than quality. Signing someone is not the problem, it is sourcing the right character, with the right quality, in the right position, at the right price, from a team willing to sell and the player wants to join us.
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Recruitment team have failed miserably then
 
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