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SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #3,501
Gibbo said:
Could not possibly be more wrong.

The defence that got us to the play offs had two loanees in the centre plus another at wing back. We can never afford, even now a player of Doyle's quality. Loans bring skill levels that are beyond the usual acquisition routes. O'Hare, Sheaf were both loanees originally, as would have been McNally if we recruited him. Try before you buy.

Prem clubs have hoovered up all the talent, one reason why our youth programme has delivered so little in recent years

Best to make use of their need to utilize it all those players.

Can't think how many times in the last few years I have felt the need to reply to the imbecilic call to not use loans.
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Not the best examples tbh. Sheaf was a loan with obligation to buy and O’Hare was OOC and not wanted by Villa
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #3,502
Gibbo said:
Could not possibly be more wrong.

The defence that got us to the play offs had two loanees in the centre plus another at wing back. We can never afford, even now a player of Doyle's quality. Loans bring skill levels that are beyond the usual acquisition routes. O'Hare, Sheaf were both loanees originally, as would have been McNally if we recruited him. Try before you buy.

Prem clubs have hoovered up all the talent, one reason why our youth programme has delivered so little in recent years

Best to make use of their need to utilize it all those players.

Can't think how many times in the last few years I have felt the need to reply to the imbecilic call to not use loans.
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Totally agree and of course Gyokeres was also a loan. All of our best players in the last few years apart from Hamer at least started as loans. Generally the extra quality they bring shines through.
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #3,503
SlowerThanPlatt said:
Not the best examples tbh. Sheaf was a loan with obligation to buy and O’Hare was OOC and not wanted by Villa
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O'Hare was on loan for a year before he was out of contract.
 
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Deity

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #3,504
I don’t disagree with these comments but my point is that this year the club want to own and develop more of its playing assets. We will have loans but not the same number as previous years.

I think one of our 2 new strikers will be one of those loans.
 
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Hobo

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #3,505
JimmyHillsbeard said:
It was McNally’s only really bad game for us.
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The whole team were terrible in that first half, played like eleven strangers new to football.
 
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higgs

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #3,506
Hobo said:
The whole team were terrible in that first half, played like eleven strangers new to football.
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We were brutal alright

Sent from my SM-A528B using Tapatalk
 

Calista

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #3,507
Gibbo said:
Can't think how many times in the last few years I have felt the need to reply to the imbecilic call to not use loans.
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He said a "greater balance towards owning our own players"
 

covcity4life

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #3,508
What a boring day
 
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Nuskyblue

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #3,509
shmmeee said:
Bold? What do you do if they’re injured or sent off? Sure it’s a once every couple of years occurrence, but you’re basically writing a game off if it happens.

Are you saying the 50-100 games with an extra sub is worth the one game you need it? I can see that.
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Don't you have to have a keeper in the same way a world cup squad has to have 3 goalies in it for whatever reason
 

Tea & Busquets

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #3,510
Not sure if it’s been covered but that Dylan Vente rumor can finally be put to bed now that he’s moved to Hibs. Di’shon Bernard to Wednesday as well.
 
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Tommo1993

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #3,511
Wow. Some people find it hard to let go don’t they. A player we had for 4 months not coming back after we’ve already signed 3 central defenders.
 
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Matt smith

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #3,512
We need a couple of signings this week
 
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Tea & Busquets

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #3,513
Matt smith said:
We need a couple of signings this week
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And a couple the next ..
 
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mmttww

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #3,514
Matt smith said:
We need a couple of signings this week
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If we can grab a first XI striker this wk, job done for KO. I'd back us to give Leicester a game if Godden starts so if that's the worst case scenario, not bad.

GKs - sorted.
WBs - sorted.
CBs - ready for KO.
CMs - sorted.
STs - not ready.

Add a CB and two strikers. Give academy lads some minutes in Aug. If they don't step up, loan them and sign better before the window shuts.
 
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Frostie

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #3,515
Tea & Busquets said:
Not sure if it’s been covered but that Dylan Vente rumor can finally be put to bed now that he’s moved to Hibs.
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Crazy to think they found that £20k p/w he was demanding & outbid us.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #3,516
ST, ST/AM, CB/LCB this week

CM and Hamer next week pls.
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #3,517
COVKIDSNEVERQUIT said:
Is Binks better than McNally ?
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It’s irrelevant. McNally doesn’t play LCB and if we want McNally permanently, and Burnley don’t want to sell, it’s the end of the discussion.

Bobby Thomas or Binks may not be better players right now, but MR supposedly believes Thomas has a higher ceiling than McNally.
 

COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #3,518
Mucca Mad Boys said:
It’s irrelevant. McNally doesn’t play LCB and if we want McNally permanently, and Burnley don’t want to sell, it’s the end of the discussion.

Bobby Thomas or Binks may not be better players right now, but MR supposedly believes Thomas has a higher ceiling than McNally.
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Thomas or Binks are the cheapest option.
 

shmmeee

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #3,519
Look at us complaining we’re only spending £2m on a CB and not £6m!
 
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CDK

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #3,520
Money wise,best summer window in robins tenure and fans have short memories.
 

Hobo

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #3,521
covcity4life said:
What a boring day
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Well you've contributed fuck all coming off the subs bench
 
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Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #3,522
COVKIDSNEVERQUIT said:
Thomas or Binks are the cheapest option.
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Or, the people who’s job it is to scout and recruit players know what they’re doing.

Let’s not forget that McNally was an unproven L1 CB this time last year.
 
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Finham

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #3,523
covcity4life said:
What a boring day
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You don't like cricket? (I love it).

 
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covcity4life

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #3,524
Finham said:
You don't like cricket? (I love it).

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Now that was amazing. Happy for broad
 
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Hincha

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  • Aug 1, 2023
  • #3,525
Gibbo said:
Could not possibly be more wrong.

The defence that got us to the play offs had two loanees in the centre plus another at wing back. We can never afford, even now a player of Doyle's quality. Loans bring skill levels that are beyond the usual acquisition routes. O'Hare, Sheaf were both loanees originally, as would have been McNally if we recruited him. Try before you buy.

Prem clubs have hoovered up all the talent, one reason why our youth programme has delivered so little in recent years

Best to make use of their need to utilize it all those players.

Can't think how many times in the last few years I have felt the need to reply to the imbecilic call to not use loans.
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Having 5 loans was necessary last season to patch up the defence as we didn't have a pot to piss in. Not the case now.

For comparison, Brentford had 2 players on loan in their promotion season:

Saman Ghoddos - loaned with an option to buy in the Summer window which they triggered in Jan.
Winston Reid - signed on the final day of the Jan transfer window to cover injuries.

Neither were in their starting XI in the play-off final.
 
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SkyBlueCharlie9

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  • Aug 1, 2023
  • #3,526
We have to trust in Dennis Lawrence and Fadz to coach the defence. They have done a grand job. Might take a few games to settle in but every faith.
 
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CovLad94

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  • Aug 1, 2023
  • #3,527
Mucca Mad Boys said:
Or, the people who’s job it is to scout and recruit players know what they’re doing.

Let’s not forget that McNally was an unproven L1 CB this time last year.
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I think Thomas could be every bit as good as McNally
 
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Yorkshire SB

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  • Aug 1, 2023
  • #3,528
Hincha said:
Having 5 loans was necessary last season to patch up the defence as we didn't have a pot to piss in. Not the case now.

For comparison, Brentford had 2 players on loan in their promotion season:

Saman Ghoddos - loaned with an option to buy in the Summer window which they triggered in Jan.
Winston Reid - signed on the final day of the Jan transfer window to cover injuries.

Neither were in their starting XI in the play-off final.
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Must also be said that almost all teams that get promoted have loans players that play a vital role. E.g. Burnley and Sheff Utd

I’d say Brentford are the exception rather than the rule, though if we’re trying to replicate that then I’m all for it!

Plus we needed more players - so this was always going to be happen, I expect loans too though.
 
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Bristol sky blue

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  • Aug 1, 2023
  • #3,529
Would not be surprised if we tried to sign Sam Gallagher from Blackburn in the next week or so...

Reversal of Hyam situation - they seem to have financial issues we could exploit.

A player who has not reached his full potential in recent years. I think Rovers would sell for a lot less than the quoted £5m a couple of weeks ago. Wages would be the issue though as he is one of their higher earners...
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Aug 1, 2023
  • #3,530
Bristol sky blue said:
Would not be surprised if we tried to sign Sam Gallagher from Blackburn in the next week or so...

Reversal of Hyam situation - they seem to have financial issues we could exploit.

A player who has not reached his full potential in recent years. I think Rovers would sell for a lot less than the quoted £5m a couple of weeks ago. Wages would be the issue though as he is one of their higher earners...
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Is this ITK or just a hunch?
 
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Bristol sky blue

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  • Aug 1, 2023
  • #3,531
Ccfcisparks said:
Is this ITK or just a hunch?
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Just a hunch. Definitely not ITK.
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Aug 1, 2023
  • #3,532
Bristol sky blue said:
Just a hunch. Definitely not ITK.
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I'm glad you aren't ITK cus Gallagher really isn't tickling my fancy not going to lie!!
 
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Bristol sky blue

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  • Aug 1, 2023
  • #3,533
Me neither TBH, many Rovers fans want him gone (partly because they think they will cash in on a player soon and they don't want to lose Wharton). Though I would be underwhelmed, he does at least have versatility which Robins seems to be after with his signings this summer.
 

slowpoke

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  • Aug 1, 2023
  • #3,534
Ccfcisparks said:
I'm glad you aren't ITK cus Gallagher really isn't tickling my fancy not going to lie!!
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He is well rated though, I can’t really remember him but Blackburn did well last season just missing out on the play-offs, the thing with him with his record, price & wage can’t see him coming here to sit on the bench.
 
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PVA

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  • Aug 1, 2023
  • #3,535
Hincha said:
Having 5 loans was necessary last season to patch up the defence as we didn't have a pot to piss in. Not the case now.

For comparison, Brentford had 2 players on loan in their promotion season:

Saman Ghoddos - loaned with an option to buy in the Summer window which they triggered in Jan.
Winston Reid - signed on the final day of the Jan transfer window to cover injuries.

Neither were in their starting XI in the play-off final.
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And Burnley just pissed the league with a team full of loans.

Of course it's important to have a core of owned players, but it's also important to make use of the loan market to sign otherwise unattainable players.
 
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