Whatever we do in this window (and it’s bound to be limited), we are highly unlikely to get promotion, and as we won’t be relegated, I think that MR should focus on developing and improving the players he brought in. We then look again in the summer transfer window, with a view to bringing in players that will help us to mount a promotion push. We can’t just ‘write off’ the 500k spent on Chaplin, and the money spent on Hiwula, Bakayoko etc.Anyone hearing anything positive about a couple of experienced heads coming in either on loans or permanent deals? We badly need a striker and I'm stumped as to who is available, who would realistically come and who could hit the ground running. I'd love to try and get Nakhi Wells from Burnley on a deal until the end of the season but highly doubt he'd be prepared to drop down two divisions.
Nathan Holland from West Ham would be a brilliant addition to the midfield, very talented lad. These are all just pipe dreams though. So anyone got any real news?
i would like us to sign marc mcnulty and carl baker xx
Good call, could do with help up top and Shearer is a free agent.Messi, Dybala and Shearer
I seen a rumour about Curtis Jones of Liverpool. There was someone else but I forgot, will post if I remember.
I seen a rumour about Curtis Jones of Liverpool. There was someone else but I forgot, will post if I remember.
We were linked with Curtis Jones months ago bizarrely. Perhaps one MR tried to get over the line in the summer but failed. My mate is a season ticket holder at Anfield and he claims Klopp isn’t a fan of shipping his young players on loan - as and when it can be avoided that is. Could be wrong but unless we can guarantee Jones will play week in week out I have a feeling this will remain as just a rumour.
Anyone hearing anything positive about a couple of experienced heads coming in <snip>
Unfortunately when he played for us his ‘experienced head’ failed to communicate properly with his ‘experienced feet’.Remember Vladimir Gadzhev was an 'experienced head' and a Bulgarian international.
But why polish up somebody else’s diamond, we have our own 18/19/20+ years olds here shouldn’t we be looking at them ? Personally apart from emergency loans such as goalkeeper I would only take 12 month loans as we did Sterling and thankfully now Thomas.Good piece on Anthony Evans last year in the Liverpool Echo. The lad looks promising. Can Antony Evans be the next breakout star at Everton?
So you are happy to polish up thomas and sterling but no other loans? If any loan improves on what we have we should do it. Why waste time with players like shipley when they arent good enough if we can get somebody better?But why polish up somebody else’s diamond, we have our own 18/19/20+ years olds here shouldn’t we be looking at them ? Personally apart from emergency loans such as goalkeeper I would only take 12 month loans as we did Sterling and thankfully now Thomas.
He's gone m8.Heard the left winger could be Julian Grey
Wtf????He's gone m8.
But why polish up somebody else’s diamond, we have our own 18/19/20+ years olds here shouldn’t we be looking at them ? Personally apart from emergency loans such as goalkeeper I would only take 12 month loans as we did Sterling and thankfully now Thomas.
We borrowed two last year did they make a difference in fact neither played in our successful run up to promotion and if you read what was put i am quite happy with 12 month loans. How do we know if the likes of Walters, Thompson, Bosma, Williams, plus the recently signed Acadamy players if we don’t try them.So you are happy to polish up thomas and sterling but no other loans? If any loan improves on what we have we should do it. Why waste time with players like shipley when they arent good enough if we can get somebody better?
We cant sign a 12 month loan in january so does that mean you wouldn't loan anyone even if they are clearly better than what we have? Odd if so. You seem to want to throw untried youngsters in with no idea how they will get on just because they are our players. Your logic baffles meWe borrowed two last year did they make a difference in fact neither played in our successful run up to promotion and if you read what was put i am quite happy with 12 month loans. How do we know if the likes of Walters, Thompson, Bosma, Williams, plus the recently signed Acadamy players if we don’t try them.
So, you're saying Thompson should be playing instead of Sterling and Walters instead of Thomas? We'd be in the bottom 3We borrowed two last year did they make a difference in fact neither played in our successful run up to promotion and if you read what was put i am quite happy with 12 month loans. How do we know if the likes of Walters, Thompson, Bosma, Williams, plus the recently signed Acadamy players if we don’t try them.
We cant sign a 12 month loan in january so does that mean you wouldn't loan anyone even if they are clearly better than what we have? Odd if so. You seem to want to throw untried youngsters in with no idea how they will get on just because they are our players. Your logic baffles me
So, you're saying Thompson should be playing instead of Sterling and Walters instead of Thomas? We'd be in the bottom 3
I think what magwitch is trying to say (and I hope he doesn't mind me intervening) is that season long loans are okay as they contribute significantly for the whole year. That's about the same amount of time as a good young player of our own may last before being sold on anyway.
However, at this point of the season I don't believe we have anything to play for. If we were going for promotion or avoiding relegation then by all means bring in some top class loans. This season, all that will do is stunt the growth of our own youngsters. Why loan a premiership striker for 6 months to take Chaplins place for 20 games? Next year we would have a Chaplin who is 20 games less experienced. Same goes for a winger when we could give Shipley another 20 games at league one level to build for next year. I'm not saying I agree with this or that it is what I would do but that's the logic anyway.
I think what magwitch is trying to say (and I hope he doesn't mind me intervening) is that season long loans are okay as they contribute significantly for the whole year. That's about the same amount of time as a good young player of our own may last before being sold on anyway.
However, at this point of the season I don't believe we have anything to play for. If we were going for promotion or avoiding relegation then by all means bring in some top class loans. This season, all that will do is stunt the growth of our own youngsters. Why loan a premiership striker for 6 months to take Chaplins place for 20 games? Next year we would have a Chaplin who is 20 games less experienced. Same goes for a winger when we could give Shipley another 20 games at league one level to build for next year. I'm not saying I agree with this or that it is what I would do but that's the logic anyway.
Spot on! I don’t think we’ll be promoted or relegated this season, so let’s develop our our own players, and crucially, give them experience that will hopefully benefit us next season.I think what magwitch is trying to say (and I hope he doesn't mind me intervening) is that season long loans are okay as they contribute significantly for the whole year. That's about the same amount of time as a good young player of our own may last before being sold on anyway.
However, at this point of the season I don't believe we have anything to play for. If we were going for promotion or avoiding relegation then by all means bring in some top class loans. This season, all that will do is stunt the growth of our own youngsters. Why loan a premiership striker for 6 months to take Chaplins place for 20 games? Next year we would have a Chaplin who is 20 games less experienced. Same goes for a winger when we could give Shipley another 20 games at league one level to build for next year. I'm not saying I agree with this or that it is what I would do but that's the logic anyway.
We need confirmed safety before we start pissing about.
It's not pissing about though? It's playing with the players we've already got and have got us to this position already.
We do seem to be weak down the left hand side ( compared to Thomas and Sterling down the right), so some strengthening there would be reasonable.It depends on which players we are suggested to put in?
I agree, don't bring somebody in to replace Chaplin / Hiwula. Shipley isn't ever going to be a winger so can't see the issue there.
Agreed...still half a season to go...crazy not to cash in on the possibility of play-offs now!We're 8th FFS, 2 places away from the playoffs. Why shouldn't we look to strengthen, whether loan or permanent, and see if we can push on?
You have a point thereWe need confirmed safety before we start pissing about.
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