Grendel
Well-Known Member
What "reasoned debate" - I have presented facts not supposition and assumption. Your statement a fee is a fee is fairly idiotic isn't it?
Of course the general situation is for clubs to lose a similar amount on average to they gain because otherwise squads would increase in size year on year. In fact the general situation is probably for clubs to lose more than they sign on average because the number of players coming in through youth systems is likely greater than the number of retirees each year.
The problem is being average with signings in vs signings out isn't enough for us this season as the squad we ended the season with was much too small. If we had ended with a decent squad then we'd have been happy with one in and one out.
As for fees the simple fact of the matter is if you are bringing in millions in transfer fees, spending no money on transfer fees and paying wages below the league average you are likely to be making your squad worse. When your squad lost 11 of the last 20 games it probably can't afford to be made worse.
I'm not really sure why I'm responding to you though, you've shown in the last few days that you have no desire for a reasoned debate on this topic, just choosing to build strawman after strawman. You're not the only one of course the amount of 'wait this person was signed with no fee he must be terrible' posts has been absolutely idiotic.
Because it is something to moan about?
No. It's because our owners have just sold arguably one of the hottest prospects in the league and promised the proceeds would be reinvested in the playing squad. And they're not. People are 'moaning' as they don't think Coventry City should be playing in the third division, and don't see our player activity since selling Clarke as achieving this.
Are are you simply over the moon with where we now are?
What is the obsession with paying fees? If there are 2 players of equal quality, one on a free and one with a fee to pay, I'd have the free one any day.
Look at the squads you fucking retard. Other teams squads are shit. DO research before blindly predicting relegation. Stop bringing up sisu and the fucking stadium.
We have a squad more than capable of getting us out of this league. It's a shame that our fans choose to ignore the other teams in this league or just don't know who they are because if you look, we have a strong side compared to others at this level.
No we don't
Exactly. In terms of wages spent etc. we're one of the biggest spenders. Bristol city have probably spent the most in transfer fees due to the freeman deal being worth £1 million plus and some money for korey smith. Our fans don't look at other teams, they make judgements based on nothing and are all in all fucking stupid.
That tirade says everything.
Let me give you reasoned facts. We struggled last season. If Baker goes, we've lost - what - 55 of the 74 goals we scored last season.
What's come in to convince you we'll replace those 50-odd goals, with which - and I repeat with which - we struggled last season?
Wow what an articulate, intellectual observation. I bet your carer is proud of you.
What Jack Muldoon from Worksop you mean? Doubt it he's on a 1 year contract.
Still he was signed for a "minor" fee so I guess ccfcway would rather have him than Tudgay.
After all a fee is a fee.
What "reasoned debate" - I have presented facts not supposition and assumption. Your statement a fee is a fee is fairly idiotic isn't it?
Look at the squads you fucking retard. Other teams squads are shit. DO research before blindly predicting relegation. Stop bringing up sisu and the fucking stadium.
What about defenders who will allow less goals hopefully which means we don't need to score as many?
i said that where ?
i dont care if they come with a fee.
Plenty of decent frees out there, Hoskins, Keogh, Chopra etc.
Just debating your point, which was wrong.
But you don't know that, do you? You hope. We've lost perhaps the divisions best keeper. What's the net position? We don't know. I do know, statistically, when Baker goes, that we've lost scorers of 75% if last seasons goals. A season that in which, post Christmas, we were showing relegation form.
People do have every right to have a moan. Especially when the Wilson money isn't being reinvented, as promised.
You don't know that shaun miller and tudgay won't go and score 30 goals each do you. Your predictions and arguments are based of nothing apart from that tiny little fucking brain of yours which has the same amount of football knowledge as a peanut.
But you don't know that, do you? You hope. We've lost perhaps the divisions best keeper. What's the net position? We don't know. I do know, statistically, when Baker goes, that we've lost scorers of 75% if last seasons goals. A season that in which, post Christmas, we were showing relegation form.
People do have every right to have a moan. Especially when the Wilson money isn't being reinvented, as promised.
Chopra is a walking disaster who is addicted to gambling. Keogh would be an excellent signing. Hoskins would be ok but I'd prefer tudgay
Because it is something to moan about?
usually free's of quality are rare...hence fee....not just because its something to moan about.....and yes there are some good free's out there and yes we have had some....and we have also had free dross
And you don't know otherwise do you? You don't know Wilson would have scored the same again, you don't know baker would have.
We have also got a more solid defence, so it could be said about goals conceded but of course I don't know that because it doesn't fit your angle
We just don't know about the players yet, give them a few months then we can whinge?
That's why I said we need to wait and see before whinging
My angle? Our owners have sold the hottest prospect in the division, promising the windfall would be reinvested and it hasn't been; you - as ever - play the SISU placitude card, and suggest I've got an angle? Priceless.
When will you ever cease your implicit defence of their actions, and step back and see you've constantly offered luke-warm support to a succession of actions and policies that are leading us to hell in a handcart?
Ah so why are we moaning about losing moussa murphy and Clarke?
I wouldn't say rare at all.
3 out of how many that go through the "whole" process?
usually free's of quality are rare...hence fee....not just because its something to moan about.....and yes there are some good free's out there and yes we have had some....and we have also had free dross
Ah, this has turned into another "I will slag the club off at every opportunity" thread?
Nick, I already agreed on that....however i revert to my original point....good free's are still rare
Where did I defend anything? Where have i offered any support for things they have done?
What are you on? Yeovil, Barnsley and donny with a wage bill of £15 million. That's it. I'm done http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYYAXck_2Fs
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